Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[The DEO]

So garrybote/Maria.
You obviously scumread The Deo.
But you took so long to vote them.
What gives my dude?

How? I clearly just voted them. I didn't even scumread them until they slipped. At first I wanted more opinions on it, but no one spoke so i just voted them.

~G

Dude, we've been real timing it for five minutes. Just how many people did you think would comment in that timeframe?

[The DEO]

Plus, that kinda suggests you were wanting permission to vote me.

[Akane and Nebby]

YO IS THAT THE MAN
THE MYTH
THE LEGEND
BAEREED?

-Nebby

ALIBAE!!! <3 IT IS INDEED

<3.
Now you're talking to me about the game.
What are your reads?

So garrybote/Maria.
You obviously scumread The Deo.
But you took so long to vote them.
What gives my dude?

How? I clearly just voted them. I didn't even scumread them until they slipped. At first I wanted more opinions on it, but no one spoke so i just voted them.

~G

Really? I was reading your interaction as if you scumread them.
If you just scumread them now then mybad.
-Nebby
pedit: also what Titus said.

[Sondam]

People were talking but ignoring our conversation. I wanted a second opinion, so I just talked to Maria instead.

Nebby why are you not worried about the fact that she just contradicted herself trying to explain a scumread. That is scum 99% of the time. Why haven't you even spoken about it yet?

~G

[Sondam]

In the first 2 posts I was making a joke with micky if you wanted to look at the buddy thing I'd shocked you didn't quote the one where I outright cleary said I was buddying him I don't think I was shading you in that post more so as your reasoning was weak so I laughed at it getting called a case
~Maria

[Akane and Nebby]

Well I'm speak about it now.
Is it a contradiction or a slip?
If it's a slip, how is it a slip?
-Nebby.

[The DEO]

In the first 2 posts I was making a joke with micky if you wanted to look at the buddy thing I'd shocked you didn't quote the one where I outright cleary said I was buddying him I don't think I was shading you in that post more so as your reasoning was weak so I laughed at it getting called a case
~Maria

And the other 6 or so? Where's your follow through?

[Sondam]

I was reading them hold on now I think the only one of those I would call a shade throw was the one where I said do I have to say you have a big dick to get a townread because whenever someone strokes your ego you seem to tr them (drixx for one) I don't see how you call my Leon things shade when one was making a statement and the other was a fact, How is a naked vote on Uzi and a vote on Max Shade?
~Maria

[Sondam]

Gerry didn't scumread Titus until the contradiction btw. I'm still trying to figure Titus out I get a bit of scum meta but I'm still nullish
~Maria

[The DEO]

I was reading them hold on now I think the only one of those I would call a shade throw was the one where I said do I have to say you have a big dick to get a townread because whenever someone strokes your ego you seem to tr them (drixx for one) I don't see how you call my Leon things shade when one was making a statement and the other was a fact, How is a naked vote on Uzi and a vote on Max Shade?
~Maria

A shade is any comment that puts a player in a negative light, doubly so when unwarranted. You've been trying to get me, Spiffeh, Drixx, Creature and A and N to turn on each other for awhile now.

Say, what's your Yuki read?

[Akane and Nebby]

Maria I think I got that, I'm still waiting for an answer to 905

-Nebby

[Sondam]

I'll answer after my shower

[The DEO]

Maria I think I got that, I'm still waiting for an answer to 905

-Nebby

Can we just lynch Sondam? Do you need me for anything? Spending pages arguing with caught scum is only going to convince players that they are town when they aren't.

[Yuri]

tbh DEO hasn't explained that contradiction at all since gerry brought it up.
Also that's twice now (i think) that Titus has backed down from an argument saying 'i tried to reach out but you don't want to have a discussion with me' in like, a really short amount of time. Usually she'd argue for longer. I've been witness to shit like that. But fuck if she's town I don't want to day 1 1v1 her because i want to enjoy this game

But besides that, Titus's rampant paranoia and making most players actions about her (see: saying a player is attacking her townreads, trying to discredit her, tear apart her townbloc, etc. etc.) is so town!Titus.

Fro99er's whole thing w his scum tell looks genuine enough. and, to clear up a point, my problem wasn't with the self-meta (everybody does it it's not scummy inherently) but with bringing up self-meta to a player you have never played with, in response to me calling a post scummy. Doesn't make sense

Uzi, bro, why am scum for you again

Pedit: Oh DEO there u are, can you explain to me what happened with that contradiction re: the Maxous wagon and Sondam

[Akane and Nebby]

Titus...We're only less then like, 24 hours in the day.
Sure I agree, but give me time to interact with them atleast.
I want to see how they answer my question.
-Nebby

[The DEO]

tbh DEO hasn't explained that contradiction at all since gerry brought it up.
Also that's twice now (i think) that Titus has backed down from an argument saying 'i tried to reach out but you don't want to have a discussion with me' in like, a really short amount of time. Usually she'd argue for longer. I've been witness to shit like that. But fuck if she's town I don't want to day 1 1v1 her because i want to enjoy this game

But besides that, Titus's rampant paranoia and making most players actions about her (see: saying a player is attacking her townreads, trying to discredit her, tear apart her townbloc, etc. etc.) is so town!Titus.

Fro99er's whole thing w his scum tell looks genuine enough. and, to clear up a point, my problem wasn't with the self-meta (everybody does it it's not scummy inherently) but with bringing up self-meta to a player you have never played with, in response to me calling a post scummy. Doesn't make sense

Uzi, bro, why am scum for you again

Pedit: Oh DEO there u are, can you explain to me what happened with that contradiction re: the Maxous wagon and Sondam

It's not. You see the question mark. It's a snark way of asking what is going on. What is their goal regarding the maxous wagon, which they don't answer.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

YO IS THAT THE MAN
THE MYTH
THE LEGEND
BAEREED?

-Nebby

ALIBAE!!! <3 IT IS INDEED

<3.
Now you're talking to me about the game.
What are your reads?

My reads are that I shouldn't play games with you if I don't want something hammered D1 while I sleep, apparently -.-

Aside from that, I'm still catching up, so this is like 5+ pages back. I like you and Drixx for town.
Dislike the Vecna interactions toward The DEO slot, but I'm also concerned that I've actually agreed with Math on pretty much everything so far.
LUV vs beeboy looks more like a reading comprehension failure than anything. I don't think it's on purpose.

I kind of zoned out during the mechanics argument so I'm going to need a second read of the game. I just wanted to catch up asap since you guys were posting 2 pages every time I read one.

Also whoever is planning to be neighborized or masons if we have them should get the day chat wonder. It cuts scum out from getting it and is useful to keep communication open during the day.

[The DEO]

Titus...We're only less then like, 24 hours in the day.
Sure I agree, but give me time to interact with them atleast.
I want to see how they answer my question.
-Nebby

Fair enough. I just want to know if I'm needed. Our hydra has a secret personal (read not in role pm) goal to not be the day's largest poster.

p-edit, wait a minute, you're an alt aren't you Yuki?

[Akane and Nebby]

OOOOOOH you're still catching up. Gotcha.

-Nebby

[Yuri]

Please don't call me Yuki. And yes

[The DEO]

Please don't call me Yuki. And yes

Well, I'm afraid you have me at a personal meta disadvantage. I'm aware my laser focus can sometimes be detrimental. I'm working on that, but as you can tell, I'm no saint nor do I ever pretend to be. I still happen to think you're scum though. Math agrees.

Sorry for the misname Yuri.

[Yuri]

Please don't call me Yuki. And yes

Well, I'm afraid you have me at a personal meta disadvantage. I'm aware my laser focus can sometimes be detrimental. I'm working on that, but as you can tell, I'm no saint nor do I ever pretend to be. I still happen to think you're scum though. Math agrees.

Sorry for the misname Yuri.

Np, np. Thought you were doing it on purpose, is all.

So, with Sondam it really looks like a miscommunication easier from here. If you say something in a 'snarky' way that looks like an accusation, that's not opening up a dialogue to get Sondam to answer about their read. And by the time you started pressuring them for a read, you'd made that contradiction that looked really bad (tbh it still looks bad but I can buy you just saying something that came out strange, since the rest from you guys looks town), so ofc they'd be more concerned with that. If the timing on those is wrong somewhere, lemme know.

As for your scumread, I'm not scum, so what are we gonna do to fix that? And, what's your read on Maxous? You've said you're not scumreading the wagon, though Math is, but what's your read on Maxous themself?
Also Fro99er and Uzi.

[Yuri]

VOTE: Uzi
Not a lot of effort being made to push Leon or me. I'd say bc he doesn't have a lot of material for either besides Leon's opening and my whatever-the-fuck

[Sondam]

I am back. Titus what's the dif between shade and an accusation to you? Of course I'm putting some of those people in a bad light I scumread them why wouldn't I
~Maria

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Yuri