Newbie 1773 - Roosters (Post-Game)

[BartTheFart]

Unfortunately I need a replacement. A lot of work has come up recently and I have little time for mafia at this moment.

[Drixx]

Unfortunately I need a replacement. A lot of work has come up recently and I have little time for mafia at this moment.

Okay. I hope you'll come back and play again in the future. Working on finding a replacement.

[Drixx]

gigabyteTroubadour replaces BartTheFart. I'm wicked tired so I'm going to update the VCs in the morning so I don't make mistakes. Thanks for bearing with me.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

how do you guys only have 6 pages within like 7 game days??

that's kinda sad

anyway gonna read this a bit closer than i already have been just to make sure i didn't miss anything (have been following for a while) but i'm pretty sure i know where to vote already

also hi light!! idk if you remember me but i'm from PS! mafia

[gigabyteTroubadour]

so our lynch for today should be falco - his iso basically reads like how i would expect newbie scum to play like

VOTE: falco xv

he never really commits to any stances and i haven't really liked any of his contributions. entrance was gutscummy too

i think the worst of it though was 121, the jump onto the light push was just really bad and the reasoning behind it is really shallow

i recognize that people are going to have different opinions about each slot but light is really obvious town, and twisting what i felt was a pretty newbtown thing to say into something scummy when it wasn't even there doesn't really have any town motivation

readlist in general is:

{Accountant, Light} - Town
{Loopdan, TesXX} - Light town
{AceQueen, Woodboys} - POE town (i thought their posts were OK but the above 4 reads are stronger)
{Falco, Aj} - Scummy

if any of these reads need more explanation i'd be more than happy to give it at this point, normally i don't like to show my full hand in a newbie game and so early but the pushes this game have been really weak and accountant really is the only person who has done anything i've actually liked.

I'm actually pretty sure the team is just Falco and Aj since Falco's questioning of Aj was extremely awkward but pre-flips aren't exactly my style page 6 into a newbie i just skimmed. aj's posting still stinks so far though

i was intending on doing a more in-depth catchup but i suck at those

@Loop, I'm like really sure light is town... like those posts you suspected him for i think are more indicative of coming from a different site meta rather than the scum motivation you suggested. can you re-examine falco for me? ty <3

[gigabyteTroubadour]

aight it's like 2 am i'm going to hit the hay. looking forward to this <3

also warning to the newbies, games with me don't stall in them. be prepared to slog through a 100 post iso when reading me

[Woodboys2339]

also hi light!! idk if you remember me but i'm from PS! mafia

Wait.... who are you guys on PS!? I've done PS for about 2 and 1/2 years now

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also hi light!! idk if you remember me but i'm from PS! mafia

Wait.... who are you guys on PS!? I've done PS for about 2 and 1/2 years now

I use the same name on every site

i don't play that much and i didn't even recognize your name! lol

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wood, could you give me some input on Falco? What do you think of his posting in general?

[Woodboys2339]

also hi light!! idk if you remember me but i'm from PS! mafia

Wait.... who are you guys on PS!? I've done PS for about 2 and 1/2 years now

I use the same name on every site

i don't play that much and i didn't even recognize your name! lol

Ah. I had a falling out and just got back in a couple weeks ago. I think like 6 or 7. Been hosting some games and am trying to get enough people for as 14p CS

[Woodboys2339]

also hi light!! idk if you remember me but i'm from PS! mafia

Wait.... who are you guys on PS!? I've done PS for about 2 and 1/2 years now

I use the same name on every site

i don't play that much and i didn't even recognize your name! lol

Ah. I had a falling out and just got back in a couple weeks ago. I think like 6 or 7. Been hosting some games and am trying to get enough people for as 14p CS

[Woodboys2339]

welp... sorry for Double Post

[gigabyteTroubadour]

@AJ

No, it's too early. Doubt Accountant/Loopdan make a mistake this early anyways.

have you heard of pressuring...??

like sitting on your hands and waiting for someone to scumslip only works if you're not actually in the game

How have you been scumhunting?

How is light haze giving you the heebie jeebies?

He's got a captain obvious thing going on and then 92 was just an echo of Accountant's 91.

explain the captain obvious part

You're echoing Accountant. In a few posts you've said the exact same thing they did. But the reason Accountant is worried about that was the first time it was to further an attack on... TesX? Basically, you're using Accountant to give you reasons for your vote.

ok but do

you

think this is alignment indicative? if not, why clarify for loopdan what he was thinking?

also @woodboys damn a 14 CS? i couldn't even get a 9p together

[gigabyteTroubadour]

The problem is that you're pounding on "more discussion, more discussion" over and over again when the real issue is that people don't take sides because of a lack of discussion. If you really want to maximize discussion as you're agenda seems to not-so-subtly imply, then you should be more proactive in taking sides rather than saying "hey does anyone else have anything else to say before i jump in on this".

see i don't really like the shade you've been throwing here because what have

you

done to promote discussion?

a lot of the play here is going to be passive, yes, it's a newbie... but if you're aware that this is an issue you should be taking initiative - pressuring, voting, wagonning, doing something!

this seems hypocritical

[Woodboys2339]

wood, could you give me some input on Falco? What do you think of his posting in general?

His posts seem to give me slight FoS but not enough for an actual SR. while being a little scummy about the whole "stop asking for others and state your own opinion" though it could be town, it gives me a negative vibe. but he gives a TR vibe with the not wanting to rush d1.. He's in the middle w/me currently

[gigabyteTroubadour]

aight it's like 2 am i'm going to hit the hay

^

this was a blatant lie btw

wood, could you give me some input on Falco? What do you think of his posting in general?

His posts seem to give me slight FoS but not enough for an actual SR. while being a little scummy about the whole "stop asking for others and state your own opinion" though it could be town, it gives me a negative vibe. but he gives a TR vibe with the not wanting to rush d1.. He's in the middle w/me currently

Why is wanting to take your time D1 more likely town? I don't think there's any use of stalling D1 if no one is going to use it effectively.

I agree with the negative vibe from that sentiment, but can you go a bit more into your own thoughts about it? Don't worry if it seems too esoteric/word-salady when you type it out, it's still useful information.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Also, do you have any actual SRs? We're halfway through the day, we need a decent wagon or two going.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ok sleeping for real now~

[Woodboys2339]

preface: still getting used to longer posts


Ok so for Falco and that specific statement, it can go both ways. The main reason why I feel like it has a negative vibe is that I feel like it was a premature response. While that response can be justified for saying it in future days, it's not that relevant to d1 imo..

Also, I just feel like wanting to make most of day is town because of info you can get. Though because of the SOS, it could be scum to at least get a better idea of what the set up/how to play.

No clear SRs though

[Loopdan]

Very good entrance by GT. I can see legit thinking behind your reads. My only question is why the strong TR on Accountant?

[Lighthaze1135]

with everything said on giga's part, it seems the game is gonna be more active now, everyone say their reads so i can compile them, i already have giga's, my slight sr is TesXX now, slight Tr on giga atm providing some stuff, everyone else in between those 2 for me

[Lighthaze1135]

ive got to get to my class now, but ill talk more on this when i get home

[gigabyteTroubadour]

preface: still getting used to longer posts


Ok so for Falco and that specific statement, it can go both ways. The main reason why I feel like it has a negative vibe is that I feel like it was a premature response. While that response can be justified for saying it in future days, it's not that relevant to d1 imo..

Also, I just feel like wanting to make most of day is town because of info you can get. Though because of the SOS, it could be scum to at least get a better idea of what the set up/how to play.

No clear SRs though

Yeah, I agree that the comment makes more sense to make later in the game - in the early parts of the day not giving reads can be beneficial because you hide from scum what you townread and scumread. now i can kind of get it because the game moved very slowly until i came in and providing any thoughts helps progress the game

HOWEVER

i feel like falco in general seems very dismissive towards most scumhunting in general which is why it goves me bad vibes — do you agree with me here or should i point it out?

Wrt deadline usage, more time is generally better for that reason, but there's a point where you have to plug your nose and get shit done. basically it's a balance of speeding up the day and using all the time that works. plus using all your time and not developing reads leads to deadline wagons that almost always hit town. i personally feel like falco wanting to use more time is nai (not indicative of alignment)

If you don't have any strong scumreads, do you have any people who you don't really understand the thought process of? That could be a starting point for finding a scumread if you have trouble.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Actually Falco seems kind of detached/strangely cautious about voting in a phase that people are throwing votes around. VOTE: Falco

@loop, this is a town vote

scum!accountant has 0 reason to move his vote from TesXX, this is town!accountant developing legitimate reads rather than finding bs to push

[gigabyteTroubadour]

with everything said on giga's part, it seems the game is gonna be more active now, everyone say their reads so i can compile them, i already have giga's, my slight sr is TesXX now, slight Tr on giga atm providing some stuff, everyone else in between those 2 for me

someone explain to me why this is a scummy slot this is 100% a townpost

also light can you explain scum!light for me? don't see it

oh and loop some response to my question from earlier would help, ty