Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Uzi
~Maria

Can you explain your Uzi scumread here? Because for me the difference between his play here and in PYP was night and day

@Spiff How is this not a concrete example?

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 1.10

beeboy (4):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Creature

Yuri (4):

Fro99er, Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Akane and Nebby

NoticeMeSenpai (2):

Vecna, Elbirn

Akane and Nebby (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

beeboy

The DEO (1):

Sondam

Creature (1):

Nero Cain

Fro99er (1):

Leonshade

Not Voting (5):

Drixx, Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Albert B. Rampage

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Creature]

So many players I still want to wagon, but I'll stick to beeboy because he already has a wagon.

Isn't that fair, Nero Cain?

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Uzi
~Maria

Can you explain your Uzi scumread here? Because for me the difference between his play here and in PYP was night and day

@Spiff How is this not a concrete example?

I missed this I guess

[Fro99er]

Spoiler: @Spiffeh how are these not concrete examples?

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

He feels way more daring and aggresive in his approach this game. He's more open about how he feels and is way moe opinionated, and he uses his hatred for mechanics discussion as an honest reasoning for some of his actions, but he doesnt use it as an excuse for why his play is lacking or why he's less active.

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

You can after you sheep me on Leon

See, this is the exact type of stuff I mean. Nowhere in the entire PYP game did he ever make comments like this.

I dont think im ever gonna vote this slot the entire game.

Luv you have my permission to remind me of this post if I ever do. Gimme a good kick in the nuts and call me to my senses if you will

[Fro99er]

ninja'd lol

[Fro99er]

But yes, I agree with your beeboy read. I just wanted to needle you for that because I found it ironic/funny. I'll pull up specific posts of beeboy's from that game to show you why I agree.

VOTE: beeboy

[Fro99er]

Also why do you scumread Elbrin and Drixx?
-Nebby

pedit: I just wanna hear what they have to say! Gawd.

Mkay thanks for talkin to me
-Nebby

Bad tone. And wanted to talk about the scumread on them, but there's no followup. Just 'thanks for talking to me'.

I'm excited!

and naaaaah, I don't care about the omgus. It's cute that you decided to target my weakest point tho.
What I do care about is you originally calling The DEO's a contradiction then calling it a slip. Because THAT is a contradiction. (Refering to 891 and 899)

-Nebby

More bad tone, trying to brush off the scumread. Not going to get into the differing definitions of slip and contradiction.

I'm literally in a convo with you rn about an issue, why are all your questions like this

Oh I thought you had OTHER concerns that actually involved you reading my ISO instead of misreping and discreditting all of my questions.

-Nebby

Is concerned with how I might be viewing their ISO. Expects me, their scumread, to apparently have a lot of good points relating to their ISO. Like they expect there to be something there, and are ignoring that we are currently in talks about an issue I have with their slot.

Yo. Is this all you got? Because it's embarrassing.
Consider this a declaration of war, as I will work on my push on you when I get home
VOTE: Yuri

-Nebby

I like this vote too. What you think of Beeboy?

[Spiffeh]

@Frog What are you trying to get at here anyway?

Yeah I guess I'm being a little hypocritical. I didn't look at PYP to verify Vecna's meta, whereas I KNOW the differences I've cited in beeboy's play exist. So I want people to pay attention to my meta arguments over someone else's.

Even if you feel I contradicted myself here, do you think that makes me more likely to be scum?

PEdit: Oh ok

I'm a hypocritical ass that values my own reads/thoughts over others

There I said it

[Akane and Nebby]

People in this game need to be more willing to wagon people

VOTE: beeboy

Let's start one here

I'd join ya. But I got bigger fish to fry.

-Nebby

@Frog

-Nebby

[Fro99er]

beeboy is underwhelming me this game so far, nothing specific really

Do you expect great things from beeboy?

I've never played with him so I don't know what the expectations are.

And could you answer this?

In my experience beeboy has never been this laid back as town at least from I remember, but it has been awhile since I've played with him. Musical Mafia is a good example of what I've come to expect from town!beeboy (link: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=65809)

I don't like 1105 where he comes in to respond to something about him without contributing anything else of value. 1169 also gives me scum vibes. Never have I seen town!beeboy hesitate to vote someone. If you look at Musical Mafia he is hyper aggressive and there is an extremely noticeable lack of that drive here.

town!beeboy putting pressure on:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7775722
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p7775743
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p7775754
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7775762

the posts go on and on

my favorite is this: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7776857

I am obv towning so the only noteworthy thing is the Tictac read which I disagree with

Beeboy, why aren't you obvtowning right now. You should be.

pedit: Spiff I'm not getting at anything. I'm needling you/giving you a hard time. Why? Because I'm a smartass.

[PeregrineV]

@all-
If this beeboy wagon gets out hand while I'm gone, keep the wagon to no more than L-2.

Day not ending with this unaddressed.
Not Voting (5): Drixx, Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Albert B. Rampage

[Spiffeh]

People I currently don't want to lynch today: Peregrine V, The DEO, A&N, Creature, Sondam, Froggy, Drixx, Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert

I don't really have too many solid scum reads. beeboy and Maxous are pretty much it

Everyone else is null so far so maybe I'll ISO dive a few of them and see where it takes me

[Fro99er]

People in this game need to be more willing to wagon people

VOTE: beeboy

Let's start one here

I'd join ya. But I got bigger fish to fry.

-Nebby

@Frog

-Nebby

Fair nuff.

Yuri is scum too, so I'm happy with either yuri or beeboy

[Fro99er]

PV is town

[PeregrineV]

hypocritical ass

smartass

[Spiffeh]

Frog why is Yuri scum?

[PeregrineV]

PV is town

That's what Mama, Jesus, and the mod tell me.

[Akane and Nebby]

I think PV is town too

-Nebby

[Creature]

@all-
If this beeboy wagon gets out hand while I'm gone, keep the wagon to no more than L-2.

Day not ending with this unaddressed.
Not Voting (5): Drixx, Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Albert B. Rampage

At least four scum in it.

[beeboy]

????

I wanted you to vote A&N with me because I am pretty sure I can't achieve a lynch on my own right now.


Basically my problem with A&N right now is I didn't really like the notice push they made (like the notice push was meh af). But more imporantly my problem is that the way they are way too ok killing literally everyone one right now. It doesn't feel like they are solving the game and it is more like they are aggressively trying to find flaws in people's posts to push and nothing more. I don't recall them ever rethinking any of there scum reads this game which just seems weird af to me given how many they have had.

VOTE: A&N

[beeboy]

Beeboy, why aren't you obvtowning right now. You should be.

cause people like to complain when I do that.

[beeboy]

I could be wrong but who is A&N actually town reading right now?

[Fro99er]

Beeboy, why aren't you obvtowning right now. You should be.

cause people like to complain when I do that.

So?

That's not the fucking point of this game. The point of this game is to make yourself identifiably town so town can win.

This is such a buillshit reason

(Spiff I'm getting back to you on Yuri but I'm pressing this right now)

[Akane and Nebby]

I'm TRing Vecna, Elbrin, Frog, Spif, Nero, DEO, Notice, Creature, PV, Uzi, and Drixx

-Nebby