Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

I am and you really think I'd do that as scum? bwhahahaha

[Nero Cain]

I mean the way you asked made it sound like you were scum reading both and I'm telling you that it makes no sense to do so.

[Vecna]

Also, both wagons developed pretty much simulteanously as a result of frogger and spiffed pushing their respective wagons and trying to convince people to hop on.

Ill agree with you though that Beebop Could be the target of a scum reinforced counter-wagon if youre only looking at the wagon formation process. Yuri's wagon is filled with people that were scumreading the slot long before so I dont see your argument holding water there. The only person that can be claimed had an opportunistic hop-on there was me.

[Vecna]

I am and you really think I'd do that as scum? bwhahahaha

Suspicion level of 1 =/= scumread

[Nero Cain]

Ali wanting to "pressure" the lurkers is actually a bit scummy I think since a "lurker" wagon gives scum the chance to hop on with impunity and no one will think twice if a lurker flips town.

[Vecna]

I mean the way you asked made it sound like you were scum reading both and I'm telling you that it makes no sense to do so.

I think both cases have merit, yes.

At this point I think its more sensible to keep an open mind to the good points put forward by two players that have appeared very pro-town, than to just push a reads list that is only based on the assumption that A&E is scum.

[Nero Cain]

man I wish I remembered who it was that I played with that would use numerical values to fake hunt as scum. That's really what you are reminding me of.

[Vecna]

A wagon that has scum jumping on it with impunity would be quite interesting for analysis purposes though. And you know full well that is not why he would be interested in the flash-wagons.

[Vecna]

man I wish I remembered who it was that I played with that would use numerical values to fake hunt as scum. That's really what you are reminding me of.

How do I remind you of that? Because it makes no sense to me, and I havent used any numbers or statistics anywhere in my justification of things.

Ive stated that both Spiffeh and Froggeh put forward a case respectively on Beebop and Yuri that I think contains a lot of good points.

Ive stated I think A&E is likely town.

[Nero Cain]

A wagon that has scum jumping on it with impunity would be quite interesting for analysis purposes though.

How would you tell the difference?

And you know full well that is not why he would be interested in the flash-wagons.

yes, he wanted to "pressure" the lurkers. Yea I'm on team cheaptowncred.

[Vecna]

I am and you really think I'd do that as scum? bwhahahaha

Also, scum rather often are forced to fabricate reads which turn out to have very flawed internal logic when pushed on and prodded.

So, why wouldnt this be the case for you (if youre scum).

Also why did you instantly jump to that conclusion?

[Nero Cain]

Suspicion of Nero increased by +1.

Suspicion of ABR increases by +1

might be more but I don't really wanna g through the rest of your ISO.

[Vecna]

A wagon that has scum jumping on it with impunity would be quite interesting for analysis purposes though.

How would you tell the difference?

And you know full well that is not why he would be interested in the flash-wagons.

yes, he wanted to "pressure" the lurkers. Yea I'm on team cheaptowncred.

Probably in a very similair manner as youre trying to tell the difference now between a scum motivated lurker flash-wagon and a town motivated one for A&E. Either that or late-game VCA.

[Vecna]

Suspicion of Nero increased by +1.

Suspicion of ABR increases by +1

might be more but I don't really wanna g through the rest of your ISO.

Yeah those are going to be quite usefull for a control + F later on id imagine.

[Vecna]

This would be my christmas tree: I like the coherance of the story this is telling, allthough it does point towards it either going way too smoothly or a portion of the people barking up the completely wrong tree.

Yuri (5):

Lil Uzi Vert

,

The DEO

,

Akane and Nebby

,

Vecna, Fro99er

Akane and Nebby

(5):

Yuri

,

Maxous

,

beeboy

,

Nero Cain

,

Albert B. Rampage

beeboy

(4):

ssbm_Kyouko

,

PeregrineV

,

Spiffeh

,

Creature

NoticeMeSenpai

(1):

Elbirn

The DEO

(1):

Sondam

Fro99er

(1):

Leonshade

Sondam

(1):

Drixx

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, ooba,

NoticeMeSenpa

[Maxous]

can i make a pretty list too?

Yuri

(5):

Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO

,

Akane and Nebby,

Vecna

,

Fro99er

Akane and Nebby

(5):

Yuri

,

Maxous, beeboy, Nero Cain

,

Albert B. Rampage

beeboy

(4):

ssbm_Kyouko

,

PeregrineV

,

Spiffeh, Creature

NoticeMeSenpai

(1):

Elbirn

The DEO

(1):

Sondam

Fro99er

(1):

Leonshade

Sondam

(1):

Drixx

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpa

[Nero Cain]

my colors were best colors

[Nero Cain]

full claim: 3p alien race

[Maxous]

You know, I'm loathsome to break up the Akane wagon, but I just re-read some stuff like Kyouko's ISO...and no , I can't ignore this, it was worse than I thought

VOTE: ssbm_kyouko

26 posts of saying as little as possible.
If there's one slamdunk scum right now, it's him

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 1.18

Yuri (5):

Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Fro99er

Akane and Nebby (4):

Yuri, beeboy, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage

beeboy (4):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Creature

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Elbirn

The DEO (1):

Sondam

Fro99er (1):

Leonshade

Sondam (1):

Drixx

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpa

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Vecna]

can i make a pretty list too?

Yuri

(5):

Lil Uzi Vert, The DEO

,

Akane and Nebby,

Vecna

,

Fro99er

Akane and Nebby

(5):

Yuri

,

Maxous, beeboy, Nero Cain

,

Albert B. Rampage

beeboy

(4):

ssbm_Kyouko

,

PeregrineV

,

Spiffeh, Creature

NoticeMeSenpai

(1):

Elbirn

The DEO

(1):

Sondam

Fro99er

(1):

Leonshade

Sondam

(1):

Drixx

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, ooba, NoticeMeSenpa

So why do you think Beeboy is town then?

[The DEO]

Mandatory post of Math head.
Still under Titus post ban 2017.
Will post every two days as required by V/LA status until Titus post ban lifted.

#voteVecna

A&N obvTown counter wagon TBH yuri
Beeboy propped by Spiffeh

*sigh*

Next post in two days might have a wall on it. But until then

#postBansSuck

[The DEO]

Mandatory post of Math head.
Still under Titus post ban 2017.
Will post every two days as required by V/LA status until Titus post ban lifted.

#voteVecna

A&N obvTown counter wagon TBH yuri
Beeboy propped by Spiffeh

*sigh*

Next post in two days might have a wall on it. But until then

#postBansSuck

~~Math

[Vecna]

Im a bit sad you got this wrong read in your head so early Math. If anything last game shouldve shouldve you im not that easily caugh as scum. And if for some reason you think there are similarities in my play between this game and PYP, I can guarantee you one thing - I look for a new gimmick every time I roll scum to appear 2 scummy to be scum on day1.

This is not one of these occasions. You can check my history for my other game on this site where I rolled scum and youll find me only making sheep noises all of day1.

If it helps I can even link you to offsite games where I only post in MS-paint pictures on day1 or do other weird stuff.

Im trying to get you to see the error of your ways here, because I dont like you being banned from posting either, and id prefer if you were to participate.

[Maxous]

Just call beeboy a gut read