Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Spiffeh]

Instead of crapping on the meta read, give me reasons why you're town reading him outside of meta

Beyond "my scum reads are voting him"

What did he do that makes you think he's town?

[beeboy]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69868

I mean compared to my most recent game were I straight up refused to participate and got lynched idk I feel like my play isn't something new.
And it's not like I ever play like this as scum and am perfectly fine being literally like half the posts as scum.

[beeboy]

Like my most recent game I did the same shit I was doing in this game.

[Creature]

Btw, I think all of us must try to build something (aka no "no building").

No

Okay

Scum: Yay! We can now pick the strongest town roles so they can't use that as a weapon against us.

[beeboy]

Like A&N just feels disingenuous af this game, they are ok lynching all the major wagons, with a backup plan of lynching literally all the lurkers and there town reads are just all the near impossible people to Lynch like that isn't town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

As I said earlier, just a gut feeling. I strongly believe he's just VI who is having trouble getting into this game.

[beeboy]

Taking meta into consideration out of my 40 town games or w/e only my most recent game resembles how I am playing right now which is why I am still pretty sure he is town despite wanting to ml me here.

But I really don't think I have ever shown that I am uncomfortable playing as scum except for games where I was so uninterested as scum I just replaced out.

[Vecna]

People need to no build to ve able to beat scum that didnt build anything on the good wonders tomorrow

[Creature]

Does someone have better experience with beeboy?

[beeboy]

And like the whole shit about how I said I wasn't comfortable getting reads because not everyone posted = I am scum, is really bullshit because I have made a good chunk of reads so far this game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

People are ignoring Notice who should've been lynched by now.

[Spiffeh]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69868

I mean compared to my most recent game were I straight up refused to participate and got lynched idk I feel like my play isn't something new.
And it's not like I ever play like this as scum and am perfectly fine being literally like half the posts as scum.

It's not your activity that I have a problem with.

I'd vote A&N but I was waiting on Nero before I actually continued with that.

I have trouble reconciling the fact that you have to wait on someone before pressuring a scum read with what I've known from town!beeboy. Could you elaborate on why you wanted to wait for Nero before voting A&N?

[Vecna]

People are ignoring Notice who should've been lynched by now.

Very true

[Spiffeh]

which is why I am still pretty sure he is town despite wanting to ml me here.

Who are you referring to here?

[beeboy]

You

[The DEO]

And like the whole shit about how I said I wasn't comfortable getting reads because not everyone posted = I am scum, is really bullshit because I have made a good chunk of reads so far this game.

You pushed a scumread here? Where?

You have made like 2 townreads?

[Creature]

People need to no build to ve able to beat scum that didnt build anything on the good wonders tomorrow

We have some abilities that are good though, like The Hanging Gardens (doctor), Stonehenge (death public cop), Statue of Zeus (self redirector), and maybe Mausoleum of Halicarnassum (neighborizer).

Only one person will get each ability anyway, so it isn't a waste. It's a waste if scum gets it rather than town.

[beeboy]

I have trouble reconciling the fact that you have to wait on someone before pressuring a scum read with what I've known from town!beeboy. Could you elaborate on why you wanted to wait for Nero before voting A&N?

Cause every time I do that it either leads to me tunneling or me degrading the thread so I just decided it would be better for me to back off until I was either more confident in my reads or could actually get a Lynch through without derailing the game (like I did to day 1 in musical mafia)

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Is it too early to at least consolidate on a no list? I have a good amount of people I don't want to lynch today.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

People need to no build to ve able to beat scum that didnt build anything on the good wonders tomorrow

We have some abilities that are good though, like The Hanging Gardens (doctor), Stonehenge (death public cop), Statue of Zeus (self redirector), and maybe Mausoleum of Halicarnassum (neighborizer).

Only one person will get each ability anyway, so it isn't a waste. It's a waste if scum gets it rather than town.

All of those are pretty bad. Modern Era will be better.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

And like the whole shit about how I said I wasn't comfortable getting reads because not everyone posted = I am scum, is really bullshit because I have made a good chunk of reads so far this game.

You pushed a scumread here? Where?

You have made like 2 townreads?

He attempted to push me I think.

[Creature]

Also, maybe we could estabilish that picking and showing to be treestump (maybe Drixx has an exception) is literally a scumclaim.

[Creature]

People need to no build to ve able to beat scum that didnt build anything on the good wonders tomorrow

We have some abilities that are good though, like The Hanging Gardens (doctor), Stonehenge (death public cop), Statue of Zeus (self redirector), and maybe Mausoleum of Halicarnassum (neighborizer).

Only one person will get each ability anyway, so it isn't a waste. It's a waste if scum gets it rather than town.

All of those are pretty bad. Modern Era will be better.

Doctor and Death Public Cop aren't bad. Look how many players we have.

[Spiffeh]

I have trouble reconciling the fact that you have to wait on someone before pressuring a scum read with what I've known from town!beeboy. Could you elaborate on why you wanted to wait for Nero before voting A&N?

Cause every time I do that it either leads to me tunneling or me degrading the thread so I just decided it would be better for me to back off until I was either more confident in my reads or could actually get a Lynch through without derailing the game (like I did to day 1 in musical mafia)

I don't think simply casting a vote for a scum read would lead to either of these things.

[Vecna]

Only 2 of todays wonders are vital for town