Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[beeboy]

Like A&N just feels disingenuous af this game, they are ok lynching all the major wagons, with a backup plan of lynching literally all the lurkers and there town reads are just all the near impossible people to Lynch like that isn't town.

Here is a post where I use the same reasoning I typod Yuri instead of A&N

@Fro99er and Creature

[Creature]

So you mean't A&N, not Yuri?

[beeboy]

Yes I think A&N is scum and I do not have a read on Yuri.

[beeboy]

Although Yuri is trying to lerk out her wagon now :<

[beeboy]

Or they just have a life it is hard to tell.

[Creature]

Is Albert usually like this?

[The DEO]

Is Albert usually like this?

He's usually fighting me by now. So is Nero but considering I don't have experience without them.

[Akane and Nebby]

Beeboy you say that but the thing is that A. You aren't pressuring me on those reads.
B. Never said I wanted to go through with a lurker lynch rather just wanted to get them into the conversation.
C. I can give you games where I sheep major wagons all day long and do it as town. Go look at what Elbrin said about me

-Nebby

[Creature]

Sorta thinks this "D1 can't be a lurker lynch" is stupid.

[Leonshade]

Spoiler: beeboy's 679

I'm null on Nero. I really liked his 453.

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

I didn't like these.

Because?
-Nebby

453 was really far from anything alignment indicative even if he agreed with it. Fake read is a weird af accusation to make towards a town read.

Agreed on both.

I'm null on Nero. I really liked his 453.

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

I didn't like these.

Because?
-Nebby

453 was really far from anything alignment indicative even if he agreed with it. Fake read is a weird af accusation to make towards a town read.

He says in 453 Nero is null though. "Don't think you're scum" doesn't mean he thinks they're town. Could be sorting them
VOTE: beeboy

I agree with beeboy here, and this seems like a bad reason to scumread someone, anyway.

I want Spif, Deo, Elbrin, Vecna, Uzi, and Frogger to be my mason buddies.

-Nebby

You are a fool in the process of being endgamed.

"I just want people to stop lurking"... said every scum ever.

VOTE: Akane and Nebby

These are ABR's only posts after the resolution phase. Seems like active lurking.

- Nebby

[Fro99er]

Ali, what do you think of Spiff abandoning the beeboy wagon and still ignoring my Yuri case

[The DEO]

Ali, what do you think of Spiff abandoning the beeboy wagon and still ignoring my Yuri case

I am actually bothered by this too. Math is yelling Spiffeh scum with Yuri. but they're basically like this this my answer work with me or not, which makes me want to ignore them.

[The DEO]

The closest we could come this morning is we have diametrically opposed reads and Math thinks her townreads are derping voting A and N and beeboy and that a counter to scum happened organically, and refuses to reconsider how unlikely that is.

[beeboy]

Now that I think about it this Leon has a point on ABR this is really fucking odd coming from him, even in Gistou where he had a decent reason to not want to participate he was being more active then this by far and was still actively pushing reads.

Also @A&N I don't take issues with your reads on there own, I just feel as though a town player would find it odd that outside there own wagon the game is almost playing exactly the way they want it to. (the active people they think are scum are both being wagon and the rest of them are just lurking and Sodom who is globally scum read) Neither of your heads have really expressed any kind of paranoia which is really odd, like look at the recent posts from the DEO slot if you want an example of what I mean.

[beeboy]

The DEO slot is also probs town.

[Leonshade]

I don't know if the contradiction Sondam found is indicative of scum for Titus, but I feel the conviction with which the Gerry-head was pushing it.

At page 37, more later.

- Nebby

[Creature]

Not really opposed to Kyouko wagon.

[The DEO]

Ok, beeboy, you think Math is town. Math thinks you're town.

Math thinks they have better reads than you, and they do every game. Compromising, in their mind, always leads to a town lynch. That's even after Thing Mafia where I had them compromise on Goatmeal. Help me out here.

Where do you think Math is right? Where do you think Math is wrong? Why do you think Math is making the mistakes they are?

[The DEO]

Not really opposed to Kyouko wagon.

We should be lynching in the top 3 current wagons imo.

[Elbirn]

UNVOTE:

I lied I like beeboy

[Caesar Wills It]

Senators and citizens, your ruler demands your attention.

It has become apparent that our decree regarding the heathen Vecna has gone unheeded. This is unacceptable. We anticipated that the slower of you might not comprehend the sophistication of Our Pronouncement, but this outright defiance will not be borne. We direct you, our good Senators, to the divisiveness of the criminal Vecna's words, and his attempts to sway this righteous assembly to his malign will. We find these actions most heinous, as well as the manner in which he attacks those who oppose him in general, while attempting to procure the good will of those who suspect him specifically. We have determined that this self-centered attitude does not work to the prosperity of the cities of Rome. Your Emperor again commands all loyal Senators to consider the foul vermin Vecna in this new light, and castigate him with your vote of condemnation.

We have further made the following determinations.

While the Senator known as Creature is most tiresome and wrong-headed in many of his proposed initiatives, we find him to be a most loyal citizen. Our experience with this worthy opponent suggests that his conduct in this conclave, in contrast to other such congregations, has the best interests of the Empire at heart. Nevertheless, we find some of his proposals most disagreeable. In particular, we object to the aspersions he has cast upon the proposed construction of the Pyramids outside Imperial Rome, a project We Your Emperors are considering. We find that this Monument to the Gods will be most useful in perpetuating our lineage and our rule beyond the mortal sphere. Further, we would build this wonder to deny it to those other nations who would use it for ill. Further consultation is required before a decision is made regarding Rome's priorities - a grand series of Hanging Gardens also appeals to Our sophisticated aesthetic senses, and a Statue to Jupiter would allow our wisdom to echo through the ages more effectively. We implore Senator Creature not to close his mind to the beneficial effects of these grand projects out of fear for imagined dangers. Such cowardice is unworthy a Roman Senator.

We have also decided, in Our Wisdom, to grant the boon of our patronage to the Senators Beeboy and DEO. Both of these fine examples of Patrician nobility are doing their best to suss out the enemies of the Empire, and their thinking matches Our Own on many issues. We think We may be friends.

His Imperial Majesty
Augustus Caesar

[The DEO]

UNVOTE:

I lied I like beeboy

Vote Yuri for me.

[Nero Cain]

I lied I like beeboy

LAL!

but real talk, such hostility to my early reads only sorta makes me think I'm on the right track and/or have hit a scummer or two.

I also don't agree with Froggers Yuri case.

Ceasar talk to me about your AN read

[Maxous]

Titus, have you even read Kyouko's ISO?
How is he not scum.

[The DEO]

Senators and citizens, your ruler demands your attention.

It has become apparent that our decree regarding the heathen Vecna has gone unheeded. This is unacceptable. We anticipated that the slower of you might not comprehend the sophistication of Our Pronouncement, but this outright defiance will not be borne. We direct you, our good Senators, to the divisiveness of the criminal Vecna's words, and his attempts to sway this righteous assembly to his malign will. We find these actions most heinous, as well as the manner in which he attacks those who oppose him in general, while attempting to procure the good will of those who suspect him specifically. We have determined that this self-centered attitude does not work to the prosperity of the cities of Rome. Your Emperor again commands all loyal Senators to consider the foul vermin Vecna in this new light, and castigate him with your vote of condemnation.

We have further made the following determinations.

While the Senator known as Creature is most tiresome and wrong-headed in many of his proposed initiatives, we find him to be a most loyal citizen. Our experience with this worthy opponent suggests that his conduct in this conclave, in contrast to other such congregations, has the best interests of the Empire at heart. Nevertheless, we find some of his proposals most disagreeable. In particular, we object to the aspersions he has cast upon the proposed construction of the Pyramids outside Imperial Rome, a project We Your Emperors are considering. We find that this Monument to the Gods will be most useful in perpetuating our lineage and our rule beyond the mortal sphere. Further, we would build this wonder to deny it to those other nations who would use it for ill. Further consultation is required before a decision is made regarding Rome's priorities - a grand series of Hanging Gardens also appeals to Our sophisticated aesthetic senses, and a Statue to Jupiter would allow our wisdom to echo through the ages more effectively. We implore Senator Creature not to close his mind to the beneficial effects of these grand projects out of fear for imagined dangers. Such cowardice is unworthy a Roman Senator.

We have also decided, in Our Wisdom, to grant the boon of our patronage to the Senators Beeboy and DEO. Both of these fine examples of Patrician nobility are doing their best to suss out the enemies of the Empire, and their thinking matches Our Own on many issues. We think We may be friends.

His Imperial Majesty
Augustus Caesar

Your majesty,

One of my personalities has trouble with your edict. I do not view Vecna as a heathen, but Math does.

Can you give a pronouncement on Yuri?