Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Vecna]

ooba will probably be replaced to be honest.

Day needs to last long enough for this to happen, even if the sub reads at night. In Mass Effect Mafia, due to the mods rules, town kept quicklynching for like 5 days thus I could not replace ooba.

Are you down for chatting with Math about Notice? Two rules though. Notice read cannot be conditioned on Vecna's alignment and Math cannot discredit you by saying you are scum.

Yes, make this happen

[Fro99er]

Baah, get flocked scum.

Hi Math

[The DEO]

1026, 1043, 1133, and 1134.

Frog also made a good point about multi-ball.

I doubt multiball, especially with flavor.

[The DEO]

Baah, get flocked scum.

Hi Math

Still me. Sorry. Math will come out after Uzi case. They wanna nap.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The hope is that Drix is the legend he says he is and scum are forced to kill him

[The DEO]

Meh I am awake now.

> By default, anti-town factions possess factional night chat only. However, actions, including build requests, submitted by members of factional threads will be posted immediately in said thread.

From first post.

~~Math

Responding to Uzi's case

[The DEO]

The tree stump should claim so they can be investigated o3o

This is a huge fucking waste of potential town resources.

A big draw of treestump is that scum basically waste a kill on them. So outing the treestump makes it pretty useless in that regard.

Any cop-like ability should cop whoever they want to. I am really not concerned with having the treestump be confirmed town, their play will make that clear eventually.

Treestump should play to draw a nightkill and cop should play to find scum.

Wrong. An unkillable IC is a huge gain for a one shot cop role.

Town plus town

It forces scum to either a)kill the treestump freeing the cop or b) kill the stonehenge and leave an unkillable IC.

Town cop, scum pyramids

The comments of the pyramids yield a lot and if scum pyramids is not Drixx, we basically clear Drixx.

Either setup scum gooned themselves for wifom and could get wrecked on balance.

Scum henge

Scum have to confirm the treestump, or confirm a living player. Neither setup is good. Doubly so if they derp and confirm Zeus.

[The DEO]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

This is so stupid after a long time of sheer silence I doubt Mastina would allow something this derptastic. Furthermore JaeReed asks a question of where you have done this and you don't answer. He is trying to figure out why you are saying what you are and if it is normal for you. He is trying to ascertain your meta. A doubtcast is when you intentionally try to make someone look bad. JaeReed reads off of meta and a smudge of logic but mostly emotions and meta. That question demonstrates a JaeReed Town mindset.

[Creature]

Just don't let Pyramids be used by scum to janitor themselves.

[The DEO]

Just don't let Pyramids be used by scum to janitor themselves.

?

[PeregrineV]

PV, why should I be TRing you? Everywhere I go, you seem to be trying to derail me.

I don't care if you townread me, because that can come and go, like the wind....

I am constantly on my guard with you (Titus) because you used to be fairly easy to read for me, but as you've started playing longer, that has become harder for me.

Then, in some other games I weren't in, you experienced some mafia trauma that really toned down your rhetoric.

You can make good cases and scumhunt, but doing a useless vote count analysis and joining "why not?" wagons is not play I expect from you as town.

But, once again I get that play-styles evolve, so it could be town you.

But, I want to keep pulling and tugging at the mask until I feel it's really your face, and not a mask.

Does that make sense?

But you haven't done that. You are not tugging at my mask but seem to oppose for opposition's sake in some places, like the Drixx read and coaching Sonia.

No, I am refusing to townread Drixx because I don't see a good reason to. That whole Science thing was bad. I'm willing to wait for his to self-redeem, but so far I'm still waiting.
Sonia=Sondham? Anyways, I'm trying to be polite when I think that whining about being voted is not the best use of your posts.
And that wasn;t really in opposition to you, was it?

And frankly, our reads are eerily close together on a lot of players. And while I like that, it also scares me. So not sure what kind of opposition you mean.

You also aren't encouraging ABR and Nero to give constructive thoughts.

ABR doesn't need my encouragement to post. He needs to do so, and he already knows it. I'm more curious what kind of excuse he is going to try when he actually does.
And Nero's hardtunnel powers have sometimes broken scum, and have made town be better town, so until I think he's faking it, I'm willing to let him rampage.

I don't really see a Yuri stance. The only major wagon you have voted is beeboy in opposition to Yuri.

1974- Yuri stance.

1159-My beeboy vote
1236- Yui vote1 Frogger
1254- Yuri vote2 Uzi
1272- Yuri vote3 DEO

I also find it hard to believe Town Titus says stuff that can be proven wrong.

You've been working against what joint reads Math and I establish in thread.

His reads are such that you banned him from spamming the thread with them.
Why would I agree with them?
(Also, not sure why this is relevant.)

So prod at me.

Pretty sure I've been doing that, but I'm not going to be a dick about it. It's only day1.

[The DEO]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

That's not doubt casting. That's asking for a game where you've done the same so I know if it's a personality trait or my scumtell. I've caught scum before for pushing on slips that aren't actually slips. I've also correctly identified town doing it as opposed to scum doing it before. It would help to know if you've done it before as town.

I'm trying to tell you I skimmed it when I c/p'ed it to the hydra pt to discuss with mastina when she had the time. And I don't dumb tell. I've chewed out a previous hydra partner for doing it before, and that was when we were actually scum. I very rarely gambit, I don't dumbtell, and I almost always have a red flag when someone tries to push a non-slip as a scumslip.

And yes, masons and neighbours can use daytalk to devastating effect. So can scum. Ask MathBlade.

I probably haven't to be honest.

See I mean that sounds believable but at the same time, the fact that you just said you copied and pasted it, means it was highlighted and that you probably took another look at it before dumping it into the Hydra PT. If so, if you're town, you would realize there would be no reason to discuss it.

**Keep your promise (breathes in) **

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

I find it frustrating that you seem to be scumreading JaeReed for answering the question you asked then saying there is no reason to talk about it.

[The DEO]

Previous post is ~~Math

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

This is so stupid after a long time of sheer silence I doubt Mastina would allow something this derptastic. Furthermore JaeReed asks a question of where you have done this and you don't answer. He is trying to figure out why you are saying what you are and if it is normal for you. He is trying to ascertain your meta. A doubtcast is when you intentionally try to make someone look bad. JaeReed reads off of meta and a smudge of logic but mostly emotions and meta. That question demonstrates a JaeReed Town mindset.

I believe they asked me if I've ever done it before to try to paint a picture to the rest of the town that I'm bluffing. There is no town motivation for that when it was clear my issue. If they read off of meta, why didn't they do a dive for themselves? Why ask a question that is just going to force someone to double check anyway? The question didn't need to be asked because it's clear I don't believe that someone could have missed what they're saying they missed.

[The DEO]

And PV, if you're scum, you gotta break the town wall somewhere. The science thing is null, and you know it. The choices made were more about playstyle than alignment. The proper scum response was to oppose whichever funding (or lack there of) would help town. So I stipulate scum should have wanted to deny science but that's because I know I am town.

Saying Yuri is better than others is not stating Yuri is either town or scum, or if you'd be willing to sheep townreads there. I get the gist that your TRs all SR Yuri, you are not willing to vote there but are not TRing Yuri, which leaves me with you taking no clear stance.

Your response also saying I don't get how you'd be confused, also makes me feel like I am correct in asking for a more detailed opinion.

The reads we disagree on yes. Yet, Drixx is one of two TR reads we both have.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

That's not doubt casting. That's asking for a game where you've done the same so I know if it's a personality trait or my scumtell. I've caught scum before for pushing on slips that aren't actually slips. I've also correctly identified town doing it as opposed to scum doing it before. It would help to know if you've done it before as town.

I'm trying to tell you I skimmed it when I c/p'ed it to the hydra pt to discuss with mastina when she had the time. And I don't dumb tell. I've chewed out a previous hydra partner for doing it before, and that was when we were actually scum. I very rarely gambit, I don't dumbtell, and I almost always have a red flag when someone tries to push a non-slip as a scumslip.

And yes, masons and neighbours can use daytalk to devastating effect. So can scum. Ask MathBlade.

I probably haven't to be honest.

See I mean that sounds believable but at the same time, the fact that you just said you copied and pasted it, means it was highlighted and that you probably took another look at it before dumping it into the Hydra PT. If so, if you're town, you would realize there would be no reason to discuss it.

**Keep your promise (breathes in) **

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

I find it frustrating that you seem to be scumreading JaeReed for answering the question you asked then saying there is no reason to talk about it.

There answer proves they lied. There is no way you skimmed it after you said you copied and pasted it into a PT.

[The DEO]

Listen, Notice is scum. Look at what you they tried to sell me and Ali last night. Especially after they told us they copied and pasted the description of the Wonder. Copied and pasted it. That means they highlighted and right clicked! No way in hell could they've not have read the non-town part! They're scum that fucked up, it happens.

EBWOP.

The first post was unreadable to me for the longest time except the arts and sciences bit. It depends on what got fixed when and if they could read it. Just looked like a black box to me. I spent a good minute tapping it trying to make a wonder link appear til others commented it was hard to read text. It would depend on what came up on their clipboard. JaeReed not seeing/seeing it argument is NAI especially with computers in foreign countries display different websites differently.

~~Math

[The DEO]

*stipulate =speculate

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

That's not doubt casting. That's asking for a game where you've done the same so I know if it's a personality trait or my scumtell. I've caught scum before for pushing on slips that aren't actually slips. I've also correctly identified town doing it as opposed to scum doing it before. It would help to know if you've done it before as town.

I'm trying to tell you I skimmed it when I c/p'ed it to the hydra pt to discuss with mastina when she had the time. And I don't dumb tell. I've chewed out a previous hydra partner for doing it before, and that was when we were actually scum. I very rarely gambit, I don't dumbtell, and I almost always have a red flag when someone tries to push a non-slip as a scumslip.

And yes, masons and neighbours can use daytalk to devastating effect. So can scum. Ask MathBlade.

I probably haven't to be honest.

See I mean that sounds believable but at the same time, the fact that you just said you copied and pasted it, means it was highlighted and that you probably took another look at it before dumping it into the Hydra PT. If so, if you're town, you would realize there would be no reason to discuss it.

**Keep your promise (breathes in) **

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

I find it frustrating that you seem to be scumreading JaeReed for answering the question you asked then saying there is no reason to talk about it.

Their answer proves they lied. There is no way they skimmed it after they said they copied and pasted it into a PT.

EBWOP.

[Spiffeh]

We could just lynch Spiffy, maybe it might clear Yuri?

Why do you bring this up when you haven't really mentioned me all day.

Are you scum reading me?

[The DEO]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

That's not doubt casting. That's asking for a game where you've done the same so I know if it's a personality trait or my scumtell. I've caught scum before for pushing on slips that aren't actually slips. I've also correctly identified town doing it as opposed to scum doing it before. It would help to know if you've done it before as town.

I'm trying to tell you I skimmed it when I c/p'ed it to the hydra pt to discuss with mastina when she had the time. And I don't dumb tell. I've chewed out a previous hydra partner for doing it before, and that was when we were actually scum. I very rarely gambit, I don't dumbtell, and I almost always have a red flag when someone tries to push a non-slip as a scumslip.

And yes, masons and neighbours can use daytalk to devastating effect. So can scum. Ask MathBlade.

I probably haven't to be honest.

See I mean that sounds believable but at the same time, the fact that you just said you copied and pasted it, means it was highlighted and that you probably took another look at it before dumping it into the Hydra PT. If so, if you're town, you would realize there would be no reason to discuss it.

**Keep your promise (breathes in) **

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

I find it frustrating that you seem to be scumreading JaeReed for answering the question you asked then saying there is no reason to talk about it.

There answer proves they lied. There is no way you skimmed it after you said you copied and pasted it into a PT.

Then call me a liar because I have done it before several times with hold and press select all and then paste. This is something you don't do. However I am used to copying and pasting massive blocks of text without reading fist.

~~Math

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Listen, Notice is scum. Look at what you they tried to sell me and Ali last night. Especially after they told us they copied and pasted the description of the Wonder. Copied and pasted it. That means they highlighted and right clicked! No way in hell could they've not have read the non-town part! They're scum that fucked up, it happens.

EBWOP.

The first post was unreadable to me for the longest time except the arts and sciences bit. It depends on what got fixed when and if they could read it. Just looked like a black box to me. I spent a good minute tapping it trying to make a wonder link appear til others commented it was hard to read text. It would depend on what came up on their clipboard. JaeReed not seeing/seeing it argument is NAI especially with computers in foreign countries display different websites differently.

~~Math

It is 2017.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No you saw it and tried to be bold. You just said you spent over 8+ hours reading this thread.

10. I spent 10 hours trying to catch up because I went to sleep as the thread opened and you guys decided to have stupid ass mechanical arguments instead of getting it over and done with and scumhunting. Which I thought you were probably town for trying to push it away from that.

Can you link me a game where you've pushed something as a "slip" as town before?

Be bold with what? Like what's the scum motivation there?

You know I was just trolling a bit earlier as a way to feel you out and get you involved into the game but this response seals it for me. The fact that you're trying to doubt cast my push by asking for a game in where I push a slip as town speaks volumes.

You're trying to tell me that you saw The Great Lighthouse and then immediately after your eyes magically skipped to the words factional. Considering what has been already pointed out, I find that very hard to believe. It's quite bold though because not only did you thought you could dumb tell and get away with it, you also tried to sell us on something that masons and neighbors don't really need.

That's not doubt casting. That's asking for a game where you've done the same so I know if it's a personality trait or my scumtell. I've caught scum before for pushing on slips that aren't actually slips. I've also correctly identified town doing it as opposed to scum doing it before. It would help to know if you've done it before as town.

I'm trying to tell you I skimmed it when I c/p'ed it to the hydra pt to discuss with mastina when she had the time. And I don't dumb tell. I've chewed out a previous hydra partner for doing it before, and that was when we were actually scum. I very rarely gambit, I don't dumbtell, and I almost always have a red flag when someone tries to push a non-slip as a scumslip.

And yes, masons and neighbours can use daytalk to devastating effect. So can scum. Ask MathBlade.

I probably haven't to be honest.

See I mean that sounds believable but at the same time, the fact that you just said you copied and pasted it, means it was highlighted and that you probably took another look at it before dumping it into the Hydra PT. If so, if you're town, you would realize there would be no reason to discuss it.

**Keep your promise (breathes in) **

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

I find it frustrating that you seem to be scumreading JaeReed for answering the question you asked then saying there is no reason to talk about it.

There answer proves they lied. There is no way you skimmed it after you said you copied and pasted it into a PT.

Then call me a liar because I have done it before several times with hold and press select all and then paste. This is something you don't do. However I am used to copying and pasting massive blocks of text without reading fist.

~~Math

People don't copy and paste things they've skimmed. The description of the Wonder isn't long either.

[Maxous]

if anybody but Drixx takes the treestump then i will personally grab a vig later and shoot them

is that a good enough reason for everybody?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

We could just lynch Spiffy, maybe it might clear Yuri?

Why do you bring this up when you haven't really mentioned me all day.

Are you scum reading me?

Why would I've had to mention you to want to lynch you?