Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Creature]

Why is beeboy looking town?

idk, he seems to have the game more narrowed down and stuff like that, and I also agree with his reads.

[Creature]

I'm feeling a peer pressure right now, and scum likes when towns feel that.

[beeboy]

And going "fuck it I won't go for my top scum read because Yuri is fine" and going "fuck it I'll Lynch any non town read" is a lot fucking different.

Like what part of this can't you grasp frogger I really would like to know?

It's not a lot different. It's only a little different.

Both of you are saying "fuck it I'll vote for non-town reads" ... you're just narrowing yours down to a few specific scum (you have 4 scum reads you said)

What part of I have 4 scum reads and will vote for all 4 of those scum reads makes you think I am town read all 16 of the other players?

[Nahdia]

this was gonna be a vc but in the time i spent counting the votes from my last point to this point, u guys posted 2 more pages =(

[Fro99er]

And going "fuck it I won't go for my top scum read because Yuri is fine" and going "fuck it I'll Lynch any non town read" is a lot fucking different.

Like what part of this can't you grasp frogger I really would like to know?

It's not a lot different. It's only a little different.

Both of you are saying "fuck it I'll vote for non-town reads" ... you're just narrowing yours down to a few specific scum (you have 4 scum reads you said)

What part of I have 4 scum reads and will vote for all 4 of those scum reads makes you think I am town read all 16 of the other players?

THAT'S NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID AND YOU KNOW IT

[The DEO]

That isn't what is said but that is what it is.

People don't like the effort so they vote it. Definition of a lurker lynch.

Creature if I wasn't in a hydra I would.

~~Math

Would Titus agree?

I don't know. Titus is insistent on things that don't make sense to me at all.

I spent four hours trying to do things her way and all I get is that she doesn't get my conclusion but I am right about the motivations of the players. It is insane. With all due respect I am letting Titus answer that.

~~Math

I cannot agree to being lynched, but I'm pretty sure Math knows what to do if Yuri flips town if we do that. I think they'd sub out for their sanity. I cannot ever agree to be lynched on Day 1. I don't feel that confident in my reads, nor should I.

~Titus

[Fro99er]

And going "fuck it I won't go for my top scum read because Yuri is fine" and going "fuck it I'll Lynch any non town read" is a lot fucking different.

Like what part of this can't you grasp frogger I really would like to know?

It's not a lot different. It's only a little different.

Both of you are saying "fuck it I'll vote for non-town reads" ... you're just narrowing yours down to a few specific scum (you have 4 scum reads you said)

What part of I have 4 scum reads and will vote for all 4 of those scum reads makes you think I am town read all 16 of the other players?

THAT'S NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID AND YOU KNOW IT

I SAID YOU AND YURI BOTH WILL NOT VOTE YOUR TOWN READS.

AMONG THE GROUP OF YOUR NON-TOWN READS, YURI WILL VOTE ANYONE. YOU HAVE NARROWED IT TO 4 OF I DONT KNOW HOW MANY NON-TOWN READS YOU HAVE.

[Yuri]

"I'll vote anyone who isn't a strong TR" is just a really odd stance to have day 1 in a large theme

man what. would it be less weird in a mini or something. large themes day 1 are full of compromise null votes theres like no way to get a majority scumread on a player unless they irrecoverably slip
you say its different bc youre voting a null read (or maybe a scumread idk you havent really said youre properly scumreading me just defended saying u werent townreading me) with your townreads but it isnt really different

anyways this whole thing is hard to swallow since its only coming out after there's pressure on you, hard to believe you think im scum when i just see that you dont want to be scumread for switching your vote

Pedit woah ribbit

[beeboy]

Both of you are saying "fuck it I'll vote for non-town reads" ... you're just narrowing yours down to a few specific scum (

If I am narrowing it down to 4 people who I think are all scum.
I am not going fuck it I will just lynch non town reads.
I garuntee you a vast majority of living players are ok with lynching any of there scum reads right now but I don't take issue with literally any of them.

Unless Yuri is town reading like 16 different people right now she is being a lot more generous with who she will "fuck it" vote then I am and it is VERY different.

[Fro99er]

Where the fuck did I say you have 16 town reads beeboy?

Show me.

I said you are not going to vote in your town reads. Nowhere did I say because you have 4 scum reads means you have 16 town reads. It means you have 4 people you'll vote, X people you don't necessarily town read but won't vote, and Y people you town read, where X+Y = 15 (since you scum read 4 people and also removing yourself)

[The DEO]

"I'll vote anyone who isn't a strong TR" is just a really odd stance to have day 1 in a large theme

This is definitely not true. It's my stance right now as Math is unsalvagable for today.

~Titus

[Yuri]

Why is beeboy looking town?

idk, he seems to have the game more narrowed down and stuff like that, and I also agree with his reads.

Youre SRing kyouko and akane, and you have similar townreads to beeboy?

hey nahdia!

ok gotta blast all thats it for today

[beeboy]

AMONG THE GROUP OF YOUR NON-TOWN READS, YURI WILL VOTE ANYONE. YOU HAVE NARROWED IT TO 4 OF I DONT KNOW HOW MANY NON-TOWN READS YOU HAVE.

I am not town reading any of the lurkers and I won't vote them.
Nor am I town reading Elbrin or Leonshade or like a few other people on the top of my head that I also won't vote.
Idk it is very different.
Having a pool of 4 people and having a people of a fuck ton of people is very much not the same thing.

[Spiffeh]

Tbh I kinda don't like Yuri jumping on the most convenient counter wagon to himself and suddenly being convinced beeboy is scum despite town reading him early on.

What changed?

Also I need to wait a bit so my jump away from bussing my buddy doesn't look TOOOOOO sketchy, right guys?

[Fro99er]

Unless Yuri is town reading like 16 different people right now she is being a lot more generous with who she will "fuck it" vote then I am and it is VERY different.

No, it's slightly different.

Yuri is going 19 - their town reads

you are going 19 - your town reads - a few other non-town reads = 4 scum reads

it's not all that different.

Different yes...THAT different, no.

[The DEO]

My personal number 1 lynch is ABR.

~Titus

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Yuri

[beeboy]

Where the fuck did I say you have 16 town reads beeboy?

Show me.

I said you are not going to vote in your town reads. Nowhere did I say because you have 4 scum reads means you have 16 town reads. It means you have 4 people you'll vote, X people you don't necessarily town read but won't vote, and Y people you town read, where X+Y = 15 (since you scum read 4 people and also removing yourself)

I am not saying "fuck it I will vote my non-town reads" if I will in fact not vote my null reads.
I am taking issue with Yuri being ok lynching her null reads to stay alive.
I don't take issue with someone having a pool of people they want to vote.

[The DEO]

I will NEVER make that mistake again after Thing mafia where I talk with you for hours about Magna scum and you make me feel like a piece of shit for thinking it and Magna steam rolled you. I will never strategically sub out ever. I literally could not take you telling me how much of an idiot I was for scumreading Magna. I had a fucking tell I was trying to push and if it doesn't agree with the majority you don't want me to hunt. Then guess what I never do. Because this game is

not

sheep the popular kids. It is use reads and information to lynch scums.

I don't have confidence in all of my reads as demonstrated by the IF person X is town then Y is scum. However if I don't have a belief to stand on then I am not playing mafia and if Creature decides to tunnel me for being wrong once then that says a read about Creature.

~~Math

[Yuri]

beeboy and i had similar SRs to start. the jump to me was really opportunist and i think ive already pointed out why spiff. really just shouts that he was waiting on it and latched onto something he could push as a reason, andit doesnt really hold up to observation

[beeboy]

Having a pool of people you want to vote = fine
Lynching null reads for survivability despite having multiple scum reads = not fine.

[Fro99er]

at least beeboy is finally showing some fire

[Spiffeh]

I appreciate people finally considering scum!beeboy as a possiblity now

Even if it doesn't happen today I'm glad the seed has been planted

[Fro99er]

I want this yuri thing to happen so Math and Titus can at least vote in their one similar read.

[The DEO]

VOTE: Yuri

Ok. Math, you know what you need to do before I feel comfortable having you back in the thread. We're lynching a joint scumread but I still don't feel good about this.

~Titus