Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[The DEO]

You and I both know most "a lot of scum say this" is garbage, and so does ABR. Town say things too like that. It doesn't warrant that strong of a reversal

If you disagreed with his reasoning fine but to sit there and say that he gave no reason is a flat out lie and I'm not sure why a towntitus would ever do that.

It's not a reason. We can play semantics as to what defines a reason, but we both know what ABR posted is garbage. Why are you deflecting from that?

[Nero Cain]

If it was such garbage how come you weren't campaigning to lynch him?

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 1.28

Yuri (9):

Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Creature

beeboy (3):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri

Sondam (1):

Drixx

Akane and Nebby (1):

Albert B. Rampage

Vecna (1):

Caesar Wills It

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

Fro99er (1):

Leonshade

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Elbirn

Not Voting (3):

ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[The DEO]

If it was such garbage how come you weren't campaigning to lynch him?

Because my hydra partner is screaming they are town and I'm not a total asshole. But since they don't appear to be cooperative and the lynch is in, fuck it.

So, why are you still deflecting? Do you think ABR's play is acceptable?

[Nero Cain]

yes

[The DEO]

yes

In what way is ABR's play acceptable? Help me out here. I see the glaring inconsistency and zero attempt to solve the game and that's not ABR as either alignment.

[Nero Cain]

I see the glaring inconsistency

I don't.

and zero attempt to solve the game

I can maybe agree with this. I am most likely biased since I think A+N is scum and thus I like his vote. I mean he hasn't done anything 'cause he hasn't been here. Is he posting it up elsewhere while ignoring this game? If so then sure ok he can die. Is he tactically lurking to avoid the game? Well how would you know?

that's not ABR as either alignment.

So why are you so certain he's scum?

[Akane and Nebby]

Yuri (8): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Creature

@MOD plz don't hurt me but there's 9 people on the wagon not 8 ;~;

-Nebby

[Nahdia]

Yuri (8): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Creature

@MOD plz don't hurt me but there's 9 people on the wagon not 8 ;~;

-Nebby

bluh bluh bluh fixed

[The DEO]

I see the glaring inconsistency

I don't.

and zero attempt to solve the game

I can maybe agree with this. I am most likely biased since I think A+N is scum and thus I like his vote. I mean he hasn't done anything 'cause he hasn't been here. Is he posting it up elsewhere while ignoring this game? If so then sure ok he can die. Is he tactically lurking to avoid the game? Well how would you know?

that's not ABR as either alignment.

So why are you so certain he's scum?

I don't know. I'm aware of the gamestate and I'm aware of play that doesn't make sense, regardless of ABR's alignment and I see a vote that works for scum and I want to investigate further. As far as I know, this is the only game ABR is in, so I can't even use the meta you described. His profile has last visited "-" which means he presumably acts on invisible mode. I don't know, but I do know what I fear is my townreads eating themselves alive while obviously scummy plays or lack of plays happen.

We've got Caesar who basically has done nothing but point at people and yell FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! That bullshit of we want to change our name so we are not going to post is utter garbage as well.
Ooba is going to get replaced over the night phase.
ABR not being ABR even though I gave him a free pass to use the one word he disdains if he told me what his reads were is avoiding the thread entirely. And the glaring about-face/inconsistency doesn't sit well with me (I view it as an inconsistency but we'll agree to disagree).
We got Maxous just being Maxous and just leaving when the pressure's off.
PV being the token oppositional person but kissing ass to town.
Spiffeh tunnelling.

Like just what the fork man? How the hell to sort that? I get an idea that scum's in there but man help a woman out here.

[Maxous]

Not much to say.
Yuri is a meh lynch but at least it's not beeboy.
Kyouko is still the best vote.

[Akane and Nebby]

Maxous your vanity vote on Kyouko is accomplishing nothing atm
Like, you're not doing anything with it.
It's just.
There.

-Nebby

[Spiffeh]

If Yuri flips scum you guys are fucking morons if you lynch me solely based on me "ignoring" them while pushing others I thought were scum.

I hope he/she flips town solely so I don't have to deal with that bullshit

[Fro99er]

If Yuri flips scum you guys are fucking morons if you lynch me solely based on me "ignoring" them while pushing others I thought were scum.

I hope he/she flips town solely so I don't have to deal with that bullshit

I hope he/she flips scum because i want to win.

[Spiffeh]

One way for everyone to achieve that goal is to stop pushing bullshit arguments and connections you're assuming exist just because I didn't bend to your will and acknowledge Yuri and vote them IMMEDIATELY.

[Drixx]

I'm 40 pages behind and it looks like I may not get to catch up. I just wanted to apologize. Now that it's over, I can point out that I was in hydra as last scum in a Varsoon large theme trying to pull out the win against all odds, and it was eating up a lot of time. I sincerely apologize, as when I signed up for this, I expected that game to end much more quickly than it did. Won't be inactive going forward (although holy crap nearly 3k posts on day one).

[The DEO]

@Drixx, I will need you here. Jsyk.

@Spiffeh, I guess and check theories as how I think. My apologies if you are town, but I will filter through possibilities regardless of the flip. I rarely do that, but I respect you as much as a player to do that.

Can you comment on the list I posted?

[Spiffeh]

I realize I'm being insufferable and a little toxic but the universal assumption that I'm scumbuddies with Yuri is so fucking ridiculous and it's been belabored over and over again to the point where people are just taking it as fact and ignoring how obviously town I've been outside of that.

@Titus what post

[Drixx]

@Drixx, I will need you here. Jsyk.

@Spiffeh, I guess and check theories as how I think. My apologies if you are town, but I will filter through possibilities regardless of the flip. I rarely do that, but I respect you as much as a player to do that.

Can you comment on the list I posted?

Gist me on what I need to look at because 40 pages is going to take a couple hours at least. I can catch up on it and take notes in the night if it comes to that. I'm present and will refresh here every few minutes. (a small voice asks you to check steam).

[Spiffeh]

There's probably at least 2 scum within the lurkers

That is {ABR, Leonshade, Caesar Wills It, ooba, ssbm_Kyouko}

Aeroaut not posting in Caesar Wills It is a huge red flag and they need to be taken care of very soon if he continues not participating.

Still think Maxous could be scum, I don't really see a reason why people are town reading that slot. beeboy too obviously. I already know what biting quips I will say tomorrow in the event that Yuri flips town but all things considered I do believe he has a decent chance of flipping scum.

[Elbirn]

Or are you protecting ABR?

How is not giving the reasoning for my reads protecting ABR?

I don't even know half of your reads. You know ABR likes to control. You know ABR has an ego. Where is he? Waiting for us to implode right?

Yet, you are allowing him the excuse of doing jackshit and not giving reads by refusing to give reads and tell me where the fuck I am right or wrong when availing myself and giving you every excuse to give reads on every slot.

~Titus

Tbh considering the pace of this game I wouldn't blame someone for seeing the thread blowing up and be like

[Drixx]

May I suggest that we push lurkers to be active instead of just lynching them out. So much room for scum to hide on lurker lynches. Anyone who refuses to be active and also refuses to replace out is going to be suspect to me. Just saying I would rather push them to be active and get stuff to read them by rather than lynch through them. So tired of handing scum teams free mislynches because of inactives.

[The DEO]

There's probably at least 2 scum within the lurkers

That is {ABR, Leonshade, Caesar Wills It, ooba, ssbm_Kyouko}

Aeroaut not posting in Caesar Wills It is a huge red flag and they need to be taken care of very soon if he continues not participating.

Still think Maxous could be scum, I don't really see a reason why people are town reading that slot. beeboy too obviously. I already know what biting quips I will say tomorrow in the event that Yuri flips town but all things considered I do believe he has a decent chance of flipping scum.

Hey, I am going to try something new ish to have you reach me. I think you know where I am at. Do you care to try guided questions to steer me toward where you are?

@Drixx, Take your time. For now, we just pray the priority rng is with us. You're my person. I need you at your best, not at your rushed. If you feel deadline pressure, an incomplete dump is ok.

[The DEO]

Or are you protecting ABR?

How is not giving the reasoning for my reads protecting ABR?

I don't even know half of your reads. You know ABR likes to control. You know ABR has an ego. Where is he? Waiting for us to implode right?

Yet, you are allowing him the excuse of doing jackshit and not giving reads by refusing to give reads and tell me where the fuck I am right or wrong when availing myself and giving you every excuse to give reads on every slot.

~Titus

Tbh considering the pace of this game I wouldn't blame someone for seeing the thread blowing up and be like

Ooba I get, but most of those players can handle this.

[Spiffeh]

As for town reads, extremely strong on The DEO, Peregrine, Creature, and Fro99er. Drixx, A&N, Sondam, and Uzi seem pretty town too but not as strong.

Vecna I was town reading pretty hard from their attitude in the Resolution Phase but nothing after that gave me extreme town vibes so I'm only leaning town there. Same with Nero Cain, and NoticeMeSenpai because their frustration for being pushed for some bullshit reason (dw I can relate) reads as genuine. Elbirn sounds tonally town but I haven't read his posts close enough to really commit there one way or another.

I think that's everyone?

I realize I did this before reading the last 15 pages thoroughly but oh well