Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

[havingfitz]

OK...all read through. Due to time/other games/RL constraints I did not take notes and make a londg drawn out catch up that I typically do that most people tend to hate.

So here are my "off the top of my head with no supporting references" reads as of now:

Townpool inpo - Vifam, LoX, CommKnight, Tywin, Kyouto,
Has a toe in the town pool - SlySly, LUV, James
Needs sorting out - PerV, Ramcius, TTTT
Suspect pool - Skelda, Pepcho, Fuzzy, Zekro, Narna

- I can accept that James always claims. Fake or not is another matter. No lynching him for a day or two at least.
- I thought the CommKNight claim was town thinking they were genuinely CC'ing a similar PR. But I can see both being town in a 17 player game.
- I liked some of the suspicions towards Skelda (the cautious post pinged me when I read it too).
- I didn't like the Narna vote on Vifom just out of nowhere. Not much (if any) better on the LUV vote.
- I haven't seen anything I really dislike with SlySly. I get his policy lynch sentiments. Could be scum but not for anything I've seen yet.
- Lots of underposters in here. Five players have yet to even place a vote.
- TTTT...is that claim a joke or for real? When I first read it I thoght it was a joke (a good one at that) and it appears your targets are buying it so ???.
- Hey PerV...I've just been back a few months after a ~year's hiatus so it has been awhile. Good to share a game again.

VOTE: Narna

Hey Fitz- can you update this. I'd like to talk more about them.

I'm not completely caught up reading. Weekend v/LA, digging out of my 2nd snowstorm in 3 days and the pace of the posting in here has me struggling to get/stay caught up. Here is where my head's at atm:

Townpool inpo - Vifam,

LoX

, CommKnight, Nero, PerV, TTTT
Needs sorting out - James, Tywin, Ramcius, SlySly, Fuzzy, XnadrojX, Elena
Suspect pool - RadiantCowbells, Kyouto, Zekro

[CommKnight]

Maybe I missed it, but what changed SSBM from TR to SR for you Fitz?

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd like to point out that his Townpool is literally the claimed role cop + the people voting me.

Yeah that makes sense.

[havingfitz]

Maybe I missed it, but what changed SSBM from TR to SR for you Fitz?

I don't recall off the top of my head. Something I had read. I'll look back tomorrow to remind myself and let you know.

[Ramcius]

I really don't understand what you're pushing here

huh? You said countless times to RC take break, if he's town, why?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I was kinda hoping it wasn't true
but ssbm is scum

can someone who agrees do all the hard work of typing up a case so the rest of town will see it too and scum will feel forced into bussing as well?
bc I'm too lazy and nobody ever believes me anyway

Can you give an outline? I'm going back and forth on SSBM.

1) The RC vote then unvote
I had to ask him 3 times (2083) before he explained why he unvoted RC when he did and then his explanation was "tonal read" during the hangman shitposting.
not sure if this was ssbm backing off from distancing his partner or something else, but I still don't see how it's town!ssbm

2) Interactions with me in general are too shy
Go read my iso it's pretty clear I've been trying to sort ssbm through interactions.
There are personal meta reasons that make me think this is scum-ssbm.

3) I mentioned this already in 2484, but ssbm's vote on fuzzy in 2433 is terrible considering ssbm's "...Vifam is scum. I'm latching onto that like a pitbull and I'll let go when he goes limp and not a moment sooner" in 2129.

and I get that my case is a lot stronger to me than it will be to others, given #2.

1) Maybe if you would have played more of the game D1 instead of hiding behind my reads I would have been more willing to talk to you but at the point you started asking me about RC I was sick of you interacting only with me and felt like if you were scum you'd go unnoticed. I think it was also quite obvious why I changed my mind on RC given when I changed it (right after firebringer and RC spammed a page or 2), and wasn't interested in talking about it so close to deadline when I wanted to find scum, not explain TRs.
2) I've addressed what you perceive as shyness already. As for your reads, 2 games with you isn't enough to judge them
3) I thought it would be self-evident that when a lynch isnt going to happen it's not productive to sit on it when other scum candidates present themselves.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fitz's reads are so lazy and convenient. SSBM is still town.

[RadiantCowbells]

this game is cancer. you all want to enable a bunch of shitty scum players sitting on an obvtown wagon all day you can be my guest. I'm fucking done.

have fun losing.

replace me

[D3f3nd3r]

Replacing RC

[havingfitz]

Maybe I missed it, but what changed SSBM from TR to SR for you Fitz?

I think my read on her started to go south with her post 1483 and her agreement that Vifam and Lox might be scum.
OMGUS and suspecting another town read from 2023.
Not seeing eye to eye on many of her reads (2217).
The vote on Fuzzy (2690) which seemed kind of lazy.
gut


Short obtw tangent....
Did a quick look at the Zekro ISO. Unbelievable the lack of anything from that slot. 16 posts of which almost half are promises to catch up or whinging about not being able to. And he's voting James the day before we might actually get some sort of result from James. Why not vote the RC wagon given he thinks one of RC or CommKnight are probably scum? In fact...in the occasional post where he does provide content/suspicions he still fails to ever put his money where his suspicions are. Until James. smh

[havingfitz]

this game is cancer. you all want to enable a bunch of shitty scum players sitting on an obvtown wagon all day you can be my guest. I'm fucking done.

have fun losing.

replace me

When did you become such a whiney quitting fcuktard?

Not pertaining to this game....have you ever pushed a mislynch as town? Get over yourself

[Ramcius]

Maybe I missed it, but what changed SSBM from TR to SR for you Fitz?

I think my read on her started to go south with her post 1483 and her agreement that Vifam and Lox might be scum.
OMGUS and suspecting another town read from 2023.
Not seeing eye to eye on many of her reads (2217).
The vote on Fuzzy (2690) which seemed kind of lazy.
gut


Short obtw tangent....
Did a quick look at the Zekro ISO. Unbelievable the lack of anything from that slot. 16 posts of which almost half are promises to catch up or whinging about not being able to. And he's voting James the day before we might actually get some sort of result from James. Why not vote the RC wagon given he thinks one of RC or CommKnight are probably scum? In fact...in the occasional post where he does provide content/suspicions he still fails to ever put his money where his suspicions are. Until James. smh

i tried push zekro D1, when he was after James, when he tried rekindle interest, but after i tried ask some questions he did MIA, he still catching from then, would lynch him, but we get nothing from his flip, no associations with so few posts

[havingfitz]

but we get nothing from his flip, no associations with so few posts

Not true. He could be scum. Lynching scum would be good.
He's a black hole of participation. We lose a dead slot...also good.

If I knew he was town I'd put up with the lack of anything but since he coooould be scum...there are pros to lynching him. If that wagon ever gets traction.

[Ramcius]

but we get nothing from his flip, no associations with so few posts

Not true. He could be scum. Lynching scum would be good.
He's a black hole of participation. We lose a dead slot...also good.

If I knew he was town I'd put up with the lack of anything but since he coooould be scum...there are pros to lynching him. If that wagon ever gets traction.

In game like this you can't use general rules, we need lynch someone with associations, so we have something to work tomorrow, i have enough these empty discussions

[havingfitz]

In game like this you can't use general rules, we need lynch someone with associations, so we have something to work tomorrow, i have enough these empty discussions

What's empty is your lone vote on Vifam.

[TTTT]

this game is cancer. you all want to enable a bunch of shitty scum players sitting on an obvtown wagon all day you can be my guest. I'm fucking done.

have fun losing.

replace me

When did you become such a whiney quitting fcuktard?

Not pertaining to this game....have you ever pushed a mislynch as town? Get over yourself

this reads to me like you think RC is town
yet you are voting him

[havingfitz]

this reads to me like you think RC is town
yet you are voting him

Hence the not pertaining to this game comment.

What it means is I have a low tolerance for quitters.

I don't think he's town is this game.

[Ramcius]

In game like this you can't use general rules, we need lynch someone with associations, so we have something to work tomorrow, i have enough these empty discussions

What's empty is your lone vote on Vifam.

Where my vote should be according to you?

[havingfitz]

Where my vote should be according to you?

Your vote is your vote. I just find it humorous that you go on and on about players not doing anything when that's what you appear to be doing voting someone who doesn't look like they're getting lynched today.

[Ramcius]

Where my vote should be according to you?

Your vote is your vote. I just find it humorous that you go on and on about players not doing anything when that's what you appear to be doing voting someone who doesn't look like they're getting lynched today.

It's my problem, if no one want follow me. I'm not talking just Vifam now, i presented many cases, i pushed people, no one cared, so i'm on break till D3 as i said

[Vifam]

Do you have any other reads other than you think im scum

[Ramcius]

Do you have any other reads other than you think im scum

nothing more than already posted

[Vifam]

Can you post em again im sorry

[Ramcius]

i'm not going look back my ISO to repost cases, do it yourself, after all, RC out, it's what you wanted so much, keep your word and do progress

[Vifam]

Jesus man ok