Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum: Akane and Nebby, Vecna

[Vecna]

So Drixx, did you look into how scummy Vecna was during the night?

Tell me why this is.

Ive been scummy for wanting you lynched? Because before you were "not scumreading me at all"

[Sondam]

This guy acts like he's fucking entitled to that wonder after his play (or lack of) the day before you got some nerve.
~Maria

[The DEO]

Yuri slipping the noose is a joke. Looked at the votes. Pretty much screams Spiffeh scums. Just needing Titus to see it.

If Mathblade continues to play the game as if she's already guessed the scum team I'm going to start ignoring their posts.

Really...You sure you and Maxous didn't switch bodies?

He said he would ignore me too and proceeding to stop hunting.

Why should I townread you after barely touching Yuri, hopping onto Beeboy as soon as he posted and then not mentioning Yuri today?

~~Math

[Nahdia]

Resolution Vote 2.02

Cultural (1):

Sondam

Natural (6):

Maxous, The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Spiffeh, Nero Cain, Drixx

None (4):

Albert B. Rampage, Leonshade, PeregrineV, Vecna

Not Voting (8):

Yuri, Elbirn, Caesar Wills It, Lil Uzi Vert, ssbm_Kyouko, ooba, NoticeMeSenpai, Creature

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to pass a resolution by majority.
Resolution deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 16:35:13), at which point the resolution will be decided via plurality.

[Akane and Nebby]

Nero that was just convenient. My arguement was that town was somewhat in sync and then ABR showed up and ruined everything.
I'm with Vecna, I want ABR gone.
-Nebby
Pedit: oh cool, he scumreads me lol.

[Sondam]

Math where's your head at right now. Since Titus takes disagreeing as a scum claim for some reason I think I can only talk to you now
~Maria

[The DEO]

For each ask these quesitons.1. How does this help town?2. How does this help scum?3. Does this help scum MORE than it helps town?If the answer to 3 is yes, then you vote NONE, no matter what the answer to #1 is.

Exactly.

Theory spam. Having a failsafe at the end of the game for non chosen wonders is good. Culture is bad. Letting scum know what PRs are in play...why?

Natural wins.

What failsafe?

Let's say random setup for sake of argument

We reach 6 player mylo.

Two unknown slots, each is vanilla
Neopolitan in unclaimed PRs but was middle ages.
We grab Neopolitan and they target each other. Only one gets the neopolitan. They get a result.

If town really needs a roleblocker. We get it.

Everyone should still build today's wonders. It's endgame utility.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So Drixx, did you look into how scummy Vecna was during the night?

Tell me why this is.

Ive been scummy for wanting you lynched? Because before you were "not scumreading me at all"

Yes, you're whole turnaround with Beeboy was scummy as fuck. Frogger saw it and I saw it. Probably why you killed him. May have strongmanned killed him.

[Spiffeh]

If Mathblade continues to play the game as if they've already guessed the scum team I'm going to start ignoring their posts.

Fixed

[Akane and Nebby]

While I agree ABR, Vecna was trying to get Beeboy's death to mean something.
It did mean something.
-Nebby

[Sondam]

That we can finally lynch Scum Luv?

[Vecna]

So Drixx, did you look into how scummy Vecna was during the night?

Tell me why this is.

Ive been scummy for wanting you lynched? Because before you were "not scumreading me at all"

Yes, you're whole turnaround with Beeboy was scummy as fuck. Frogger saw it and I saw it. Probably why you killed him. May have strongmanned killed him.

Funny how that suspicion went away after I explained it to him.

[Drixx]

@mod: replace out. I will totally trash your game otherwise. Some people apparently believe I'm obligated to stay chained to my desk and read their worthless drivel at a clip of nearly 1,000 posts a day, even when I'm playing a LYLO at the end of a 13k post game and they

can go look

and see that I was sacrificing sleep as it was.

Sorry to the folks on the playlist that I was looking forward to playing with. Catch ya'll in another time and place.

Congrats to the assclowns for getting me to replace out for 2nd time ever.

[PeregrineV]

VOTE: Natural

You are seriously suggesting we play the entire game as vanilla because scum could go back and get a prior power.

What's next? Hey guys how about we deny Town the power to vote b/c scums could hammer a townie?

This is seriously getting old.

~~Math

You know that vanilla do the most scumhunting, right?

Meh. PR is not alignment of amount of scumhunting to me.

Denying Town tools doesn't make Town inherently better.

~~Math

How is town being denied anything?

Arts -- Denied who knows what in lynch powers
Sciences -- Ability to plan wonders
Natural -- Ability to grab old unbuilt wonder after mass claim that could help us break the game or if someone lied about picking one up.
Cultural -- Meh not seeing too much use in that.

Repeatedly voting none disregards what Town can do.
We win when we are positive and think we CAN do things.

~~Math

For each ask these quesitons.

1. How does this help town?
2. How does this help scum?
3. Does this help scum MORE than it helps town?

If the answer to 3 is yes, then you vote NONE, no matter what the answer to #1 is.

1) How do PRs help Town? Is this a serious question?
2) Town coordination (but not group think) is how Town wins! Town blocks = group think Town collaboration = wins
Beeboy lynch group think due to apathy

Planning and transparency always help Town more.

The two none votes IMHO are ridiculous and anything would be better than none.

~~Math

1. Games with town PRs have been won by scum in the past, so, logically, town PRs do not make or break a game by their mere existence
2. Except the only people who know if a townblock is 100% town is the scumteam. Also, games with Masons, the built-in townblocks of the game, have been won by scum. So, logically, townblocks do not make or break a game by their mere existence.
3. I doubt it was apathy that lynched beeboy 9 days prior to the deadline. 43% of the day was done, so pretty sure it was activity not apathy.

No. That's why most games will punish town for masslclaiming day1. Transparency is tactical.

Noted.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So Drixx, did you look into how scummy Vecna was during the night?

Tell me why this is.

Ive been scummy for wanting you lynched? Because before you were "not scumreading me at all"

Yes, you're whole turnaround with Beeboy was scummy as fuck. Frogger saw it and I saw it. Probably why you killed him. May have strongmanned killed him.

Funny how that suspicion went away after I explained it to him.

He had his flaws.

[The DEO]

So Drixx, did you look into how scummy Vecna was during the night?

Tell me why this is.

Ive been scummy for wanting you lynched? Because before you were "not scumreading me at all"

Yes, you're whole turnaround with Beeboy was scummy as fuck. Frogger saw it and I saw it. Probably why you killed him. May have

strongmanned killed him.

Got hidden info?

[Spiffeh]

Why should I townread you after barely touching Yuri, hopping onto Beeboy as soon as he posted and then not mentioning Yuri today?

I'm not telling you to town read me for these things, I'm telling you to stop playing the game assuming you've guessed the scum team and analyzing behavior from that perspective. I thought you were reasonable enough to realize why this is stupid but I guess you aren't.

I still stand by the fact that Yuri's reaction when it looked inevitable that they would be lynched was extremely town.

[Nero Cain]

Are you fucking kidding me?!?

One of the big reasons that I think A+n is scum 'cause their "ABR ruined the Yuri wagon!" was totes junk.

That was...
Never my argument Nero...
-Nebby

Nero that was just convenient. My arguement was that town was somewhat in sync and then

ABR showed up and ruined everything.

I'm with Vecna, I want ABR gone.
-Nebby
Pedit: oh cool, he scumreads me lol.

ABR showed up and ruined everything.

ABR showed up and ruined everything.

[Nero Cain]

Are you fucking kidding me?!?

One of the big reasons that I think A+n is scum 'cause their "ABR ruined the Yuri wagon!" was totes junk.

That was...
Never my argument Nero...
-Nebby

Nero that was just convenient. My arguement was that town was somewhat in sync and then

ABR showed up and ruined everything.

I'm with Vecna, I want ABR gone.
-Nebby
Pedit: oh cool, he scumreads me lol.

ABR showed up and ruined everything.

ABR showed up and ruined everything.

[The DEO]

Math where's your head at right now. Since Titus takes disagreeing as a scum claim for some reason I think I can only talk to you now
~Maria

I am thinking Spiffeh/Yuri one of them needs rope.

I think Yuri tbf gives us the most to go off of and confirms my theories.

If Yuri isn't scum then Spiffeh needs reread a long with a lot of others.

However Titus and I agree on ABR (although my read is a lot lighter).

I think ABR v Vecna is SVS.

I can post more when home I am getting an oil change.

~~Math

[Vecna]

@mod: replace out. I will totally trash your game otherwise. Some people apparently believe I'm obligated to stay chained to my desk and read their worthless drivel at a clip of nearly 1,000 posts a day, even when I'm playing a LYLO at the end of a 13k post game and they

can go look

and see that I was sacrificing sleep as it was.

Sorry to the folks on the playlist that I was looking forward to playing with. Catch ya'll in another time and place.

Congrats to the assclowns for getting me to replace out for 2nd time ever.

People just state that they rather would have another treestump.

Is that so weird given that the pace is the pace? A treestump thats going to keep up is more usefull than a treestump that wont.

[Akane and Nebby]

Part of me really doesn't like the fact that ABR is trying to pin the kill on someone.
-Nebby

[The DEO]

@mod: replace out. I will totally trash your game otherwise. Some people apparently believe I'm obligated to stay chained to my desk and read their worthless drivel at a clip of nearly 1,000 posts a day, even when I'm playing a LYLO at the end of a 13k post game and they

can go look

and see that I was sacrificing sleep as it was.

Sorry to the folks on the playlist that I was looking forward to playing with. Catch ya'll in another time and place.

Congrats to the assclowns for getting me to replace out for 2nd time ever.

I am sorry Drixx

I was looking forward to actually playing with you for more than a day phase.

~~Math

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whatever, I'll let DEO figure the game out and lead the lynch because surely they know best. I'll lynch Ceasar if you really want him that bad. If not, top of my list is Vecna and Arkane Nebby who I'm confirmed are two guaranteed scum.