Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Vecna]

So Drixx, did you look into how scummy Vecna was during the night?

Tell me why this is.

Ive been scummy for wanting you lynched? Because before you were "not scumreading me at all"

Yes, you're whole turnaround with Beeboy was scummy as fuck. Frogger saw it and I saw it. Probably why you killed him. May have strongmanned killed him.

Funny how that suspicion went away after I explained it to him.

He had his flaws.

Not being so easy to manipulate doesnt sound like a flaw to me.

[Nero Cain]

its so good it posted twice

[Sondam]

Math where's your head at right now. Since Titus takes disagreeing as a scum claim for some reason I think I can only talk to you now
~Maria

I am thinking Spiffeh/Yuri one of them needs rope.

I think Yuri tbf gives us the most to go off of and confirms my theories.

If Yuri isn't scum then Spiffeh needs reread a long with a lot of others.

However Titus and I agree on ABR (although my read is a lot lighter).

I think ABR v Vecna is SVS.

I can post more when home I am getting an oil change.

~~Math

I'm really reminded of the thing Spiffeh though he's one of my top tr's does he not remind you of that aswell? I also have ap retty big tr on ABR talk me through those reads I'll happily lynch Vecna though.
~Maria

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh didnt care about lynching beeboy at all. I wanted to trade him my vote for asnwers to questions - he ignored at least 6 of them.

Yeah the fact that I allowed literally no other lynch go through and wouldn't compromise on anyone really indicates that I "didn't care about lynching beeboy at all".

Wtf does that even mean?

Also I missed your questions, noticed you complaining about it, and didn't care enough to go find them and answer them. If you'd like to quote them now go ahead.

Vecna please address this

[Vecna]

Why should I townread you after barely touching Yuri, hopping onto Beeboy as soon as he posted and then not mentioning Yuri today?

I'm not telling you to town read me for these things, I'm telling you to stop playing the game assuming you've guessed the scum team and analyzing behavior from that perspective. I thought you were reasonable enough to realize why this is stupid but I guess you aren't.

I still stand by the fact that Yuri's reaction when it looked inevitable that they would be lynched was extremely town.

This most people agreed on.

Lets not play the defensive game at any rate. Lets look to find actual scum today.

Whats your thoughts on ABR in all this?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whatever, I'll let DEO figure the game out and lead the lynch because surely they know best. I'll lynch Ceasar if you really want him that bad. If not, top of my list is Vecna and Arkane Nebby who I'm

convinced

are two guaranteed scum.

[PeregrineV]

For each ask these quesitons.1. How does this help town?2. How does this help scum?3. Does this help scum MORE than it helps town?If the answer to 3 is yes, then you vote NONE, no matter what the answer to #1 is.

Exactly.

Theory spam. Having a failsafe at the end of the game for non chosen wonders is good. Culture is bad. Letting scum know what PRs are in play...why?

Natural wins.

What failsafe?

Let's say random setup for sake of argument

We reach 6 player mylo.

Two unknown slots, each is vanilla
Neopolitan in unclaimed PRs but was middle ages.
We grab Neopolitan and they target each other. Only one gets the neopolitan. They get a result.

If town really needs a roleblocker. We get it.

Everyone should still build today's wonders. It's endgame utility.

If you were on the scumteam and coordinated all their actions, what would scum have built last night? Assume you got whatever you wanted built by your team.

[The DEO]

Whatever, I'll let DEO figure the game out and lead the lynch because surely they know best. I'll lynch Ceasar if you really want him that bad. If not, top of my list is Vecna and Arkane Nebby who I'm confirmed are two guaranteed scum.

Just like beeboy?

Like how can you not see Caesar is practically ripping from your Cyberpunk playbook?

Why do you believe scum have a Strongman?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus stop being a contrarian and we'll work together. 2/3 of our suspects are the same anyways. Truce?

[Vecna]

Spiffeh didnt care about lynching beeboy at all. I wanted to trade him my vote for asnwers to questions - he ignored at least 6 of them.

Yeah the fact that I allowed literally no other lynch go through and wouldn't compromise on anyone really indicates that I "didn't care about lynching beeboy at all".

Wtf does that even mean?

Also I missed your questions, noticed you complaining about it, and didn't care enough to go find them and answer them. If you'd like to quote them now go ahead.

Vecna please address this

It meant that you couldve bought my vote rather easily, and you did not.

as i stated before, I no longer care about the asnwers now since they wont be a proper reflection anymore of your thought process at that moment.

More questions will come. please be slightly more receptive then.

[Creature]

Okay, if someone turns out to be treestump, we know it's scum and we just ignore them.

[Spiffeh]

I initially was town reading ABR pretty hard because he reminded me of Mafiaception, but I am a little turned off by how he started buddying me as soon as I started defending him.

Overall I still think he's town though.

[Spiffeh]

Okay, if someone turns out to be treestump, we know it's scum and we just ignore them.

Stop saying wrong and bad things

[Creature]

Can someone tell the advantages and disadvantages of picking Natural?

[Akane and Nebby]

Creature I really do not understand how you get just about half of your conclusions.
-Nebby

[Vecna]

Whatever, I'll let DEO figure the game out and lead the lynch because surely they know best. I'll lynch Ceasar if you really want him that bad. If not, top of my list is Vecna and Arkane Nebby who I'm

convinced

are two guaranteed scum.

Well youre wrong about at least 50% of those.

But then again, this is just posturing regardless.

Should I read into this that nebby is your partner?

[Sondam]

Creature I really do not understand how you get just about all of your conclusions.
-Nebby

FTFY

[Creature]

Okay, if someone turns out to be treestump, we know it's scum and we just ignore them.

Stop saying wrong and bad things

I think town agreed they would leave The Pyramids for Drixx. Also, scum would want to be janitored upon being lynched, so why not pick The Pyramids for themselves?

[Spiffeh]

It meant that you couldve bought my vote rather easily, and you did not.

This still doesn't make sense to me. What could I have done that I wasn't doing? Why does the fact that I didn't "buy" your vote make you scum read me?

[Nahdia]

Now seeking replacement for Drixx.

[Sondam]

Why the fuck would town agree to give it to Drixx of all people? He was inactive and didn't do anything
~Maria

[The DEO]

Titus stop being a contrarian and we'll work together. 2/3 of our suspects are the same anyways. Truce?

I don't want to lynch Vecna or A and N. Math is considering Vecna but he's my rock.

I am open to trying to work together civilly.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm pretty sure if someone drafted doctor, frogger was the obvious choice. So strongman makes sense. There's no "post flavor when you're scum" playbook. I just like to post flavor. It's not like I'm confirmed scum when I write flavor. This is bad meta that you then projected on a random person. But his lack of content does disturb me, especially since Aeronaut is supposedly one of the heads.

[Vecna]

It meant that you couldve bought my vote rather easily, and you did not.

This still doesn't make sense to me. What could I have done that I wasn't doing? Why does the fact that I didn't "buy" your vote make you scum read me?

When I quoted you my questions repeatedly I told you I would never vote Beeboy untill you answered my questions.

[The DEO]

Why should I townread you after barely touching Yuri, hopping onto Beeboy as soon as he posted and then not mentioning Yuri today?

I'm not telling you to town read me for these things, I'm telling you to stop playing the game assuming you've guessed the scum team and analyzing behavior from that perspective. I thought you were reasonable enough to realize why this is stupid but I guess you aren't.

I still stand by the fact that Yuri's reaction when it looked inevitable that they would be lynched was extremely town.

That is the difference.

You are making that an assumption that I am.

Disregarding the fact I spent a few good hours doing VCA knowing Beeboy and I are Town.

I need to drive home from my oil change. And I just got hit on by a male mechanic at Midas ugh.

~~Math