Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

What do you think of Notice trying to claim that Yume not posting is a town tell?

[Nero Cain]

there are some players that try to get page tops all the time and I think its really annoying but I'm getting page tops like a pro this game. Those page toppers can eat me.

[Elbirn]

What's happening?

I have a light gut scumread on you.

vote Nebby with me.

God, no.

or if you guys really think there is scum in the lurkers we could always lynch Elbrin.

I'm still 20 pages back

What's happening?

Caesar is finally getting rope.

~Titus

FOUR LEGS GOOD
VOTE: Caesar

[Nero Cain]

God, no.

Why?

[Elbirn]

A&N are obvtown, no question bro

[Nero Cain]

Why are they obctown?

[Nero Cain]

obvtown

[Elbirn]

Because I say so

Man idk my town-experience with Alisae (Nebby head) points to him doing exactly what we see her and when I think about them being town my heart-tummy soars

[Elbirn]

Jumping onto every wagon with zero fucks given, being a kissass to everyone and wanting to be liked, this is what alisae just does

[The DEO]

I prefer following my intuition with players than having explanations. I'm more of a go with my gut type of player.

You gave explanations in Shadowrun.

You need to understand that without them you look like scum literally picking anyone to me.
And it is 3x harder to sort you.

~~Math

Actually, if you remember his push on you I tried to understand it and he just wasn't explaining it. I think the most explanation he gave was probably the D&D push early game?

I've seen him push on someone in another game without giving reasons either as town. I think it's just his playstyle. (If you want a link of that game I can give it to you?)

Please. I will take any input from my townreads at this point that has reasons.

~~Math

[Nero Cain]

I've heard Alisae does the same things as scum + I just don't get what they've done in the last few pages. You'll see them and tell me what you think.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Talk to me about your TR on Vecna? This whole thing feels like grapes all over again.

Explain?

Titus

Reference to another game where someone was widely townread and I was on the scumfuck since RVS but got shaded out of the townblock both due to him being up the largely townread's ass and me not being able to keep up with the pace of the game. Then I was forced to try to present a solid case which is one of my major weaknesses and I was upset with being pushed and didn't want to have to claim because I was a mason and just ended up townreading him instead.

Feels like what's happening with Vecna here.

[Akane and Nebby]

I've heard Alisae does the same things as scum + I just don't get what they've done in the last few pages. You'll see them and tell me what you think.

In what completed scumgame?
-Nebby

[The DEO]

I've heard Alisae does the same things as scum + I just don't get what they've done in the last few pages. You'll see them and tell me what you think.

In what completed scumgame?
-Nebby

And who did you hear it from and when?

~~Math

[NoticeMeSenpai]

They know it makes them hard to read and several players have asked them to post normally yet they refuse to stop.

this prob makes it more likely they are town. I mean, I guess he could go "so ppl are scum reading me, who cares!" b/c he's not a noob and wouldn't be scared off but in general I think a refusal to do something that's getting you scumread is townish.

I agree with this (still, despite ppl saying it's NAI but w/e), but I also think Spiffeh's complaining about it is another town indicative thing for Spiffeh so I wanted to quote this for Math's benefit. The frustration with that playstyle making them hard to read feels like a town perspective. Scum wouldn't mind the noise so much I think.

I also wanna note I've seen gerry do this same roleplaying thing before as town. He refused to stop too. http://emforummaf.prophpbb.com/search.p ... r=gerryoat

[NoticeMeSenpai]

No.
What you are doing is you are saying "Hey, my confbias will be yelling IMPACTFUL WORDS at you and hopefully you get lynched because of it."
I honestly think you're not even pushing a read anymore tbh.
-Nebby

And this is the moment you start omgusing.

You need to stop doing this shit. I can't protect you in every fucking game, and once I die or it hits lylo people just lynch you anyway. At some point you need to start helping yourself. Please stop making my life harder. I can't protect you and hunt scum and try to convince others that I'm right all at the same time.

Take a step back, look at the push as a whole, and tell me whether you think it is at all plausible that your play could have caused people to genuinely believe that you're so close to confirmed scum that they might as well just look for your buddies.

[Akane and Nebby]

I stopped caring about the push as a whole right now anyways tbh.
-Nebby

[NoticeMeSenpai]

confirmation bias can only come from town
it means being subconsciously biased towards information that feeds the worldview you already have

also how can Nero be a lost, lost soul if he's scum? even without the erroneous confbias def youre still treating him like he's wrong town

Uncertain town tend to contradict themselves like that. Yes it's sloppy, but Alisae would have their shit together a little more than this if they were scum I think.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

you aren't this dumb so stop playing the dumb card. Though I guess Maria bought it so idk.

I really am not sure what you were implying with 4444 either tbh.

[Nero Cain]

II felt like 4444 was p obvious. I felt like he was scummy for trying to blame ABR for EOD. He said he wasn't. I posted quotes of him blaming ABR and then him saying that he was blaming ABR.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

ABR is always manipulative. It's one of his more endearing traits.

This dude.
By the name of Yuri
Was at L-1 yesterday.
Then ABR came in.
And suddenly Yuri wasn't at L-1.
And there were fights and the town was sturred into chaos.
-Nebby

Yuri was a bad wagon. There wasn't even a real counter before things got derailed.
Ask yourself why, in a Yuri!scum world, there's no counter to the consensus lynch.
Either Yuri is town, or Yuri's scum buddies literally weren't around to push it away from them, or Yuri's scum buddies were 100% fine with bussing.
ABR derailing the wagon after the point where I called for a pause on the rush to end the day doesn't feel like a buddy move. He could have done that earlier.

[Akane and Nebby]

I've heard Alisae does the same things as scum + I just don't get what they've done in the last few pages. You'll see them and tell me what you think.

In what completed scumgame?
-Nebby

And who did you hear it from and when?

~~Math

[Akane and Nebby]

There wasn't even a real counter before things got derailed.

I thought Beeboy and my own wagons countered Yuri's at some point. No?
-Nebby

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mastin try to sign your posts.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

II felt like 4444 was p obvious. I felt like he was scummy for trying to blame ABR for EOD. He said he wasn't. I posted quotes of him blaming ABR and then him saying that he was blaming ABR.

hm ok my possible interpretation was way off then.

I had that you thought he was saying he was in a good position as scum with the townblock and lynch and ABR ruined it which was pretty far from how I read that post.

I think he was trying to blame ABR for the dismantling of the townblock, not necessarily the beeboy lynch?