Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Creature]

Still think that, if we lynch someone and it's a treestump, we treat him/her as scum.

[The DEO]

Still think that, if we lynch someone and it's a treestump, we treat him/her as scum.

Unless it is Town.

Pyramids lets us confirm that.

Titus thought she knew who Pyramids was and that I would never reconcile with her and so she suggested we die.
She didn't want to subout and all I was saying is we need time.

~~Math

[The DEO]

Pyramids entire point is to die.

They should have 0 problem being checked.

~~Math

[The DEO]

Drixx may have really wanted it and didn't get it.
Titus and Drixx may have not listened to people.
So what?

They were both obvTown for doing it and we need to find the person who stopped them.

~~Math

[Leonshade]

Pyramids claim now.

Maxous /Spiffeh are you Pyramids?

PYRAMIDS SHOULDN'T CLAIM AT ALL

HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT

What do you want done with the Stonehenge, now that the slot is public and useless otherwise?

[Spiffeh]

DEO honestly just needs to stop posting.

Nothing either head is doing is helpful right now. Titus keeps arguing with ABR and is now proposing a ridiculous plan, Mathblade has a set scum team in their mind and constructs a narrative based on those assumptions when it should be the other way around.

Stop acknowledging them, they're not "leading" town, they don't decide anything.

Gonna keep quoting this until people start ignoring them.

DEO talks a big game about town unity yet they fucking expect a ridiculous plan that they didn't run by anyone to go through and for no one to question it.

They're so full of shit.

JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LARGEST POST COUNT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE ANY AUTHORITY

[PeregrineV]

All of these Wonders just suck to be honest. Modern Era should give us better ones.

My other two scum games on my wiki are more indicative of how I play scum.

@A&N: These Wonders suck. Wait for the Modern Era!

@A&N: Trust me, it has something better! I can't say anymore since I'll probably get modkilled.

Every era will probably have better Wonders then this one.

Modern Era will probably bring more complex and unique roles that could potentially help with alignment sorting.

Stuff like thismakes it seem like Lil Uzi knew better wonders were coming. Part of that as supposition makes sense. Statment of it as fact does not.

But, I did not want to lynch him day1 because I felt that if he were scum and knew the next days wonders, he wouldn't discourage town from buying them, what with better ones coming.

Mod's answer did not confirm that all players were vanilla, because if so, the most efficient answer would be "Yes".

But, since it is now day2, I want to delve more into this.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Caesar

DEO, you could have just... not claimed Stonehenge.

Why are you voting for Caesar?

Leon answer this.

[Spiffeh]

Anyone furthering DEO's ridiculous agenda without question is probably scum

Like Maxous

[Maxous]

Look, I'm trying not to be controlling, particularly after I over-stepped the line on Day 1 but we weren't saying to let Drixx take it for a laugh or whatever.
Wheter the treestump claims today or not their reasoning should be highly scrutinised because they ignored multiple people pointing out how Drixx's play wanting the treestump and to be cop investigated with it was obviously town

[Akane and Nebby]

Spif who does have authority to you?
Also PV where you at with reads?
-Nebby

[The DEO]

All of these Wonders just suck to be honest. Modern Era should give us better ones.

My other two scum games on my wiki are more indicative of how I play scum.

@A&N: These Wonders suck. Wait for the Modern Era!

@A&N: Trust me, it has something better! I can't say anymore since I'll probably get modkilled.

Every era will probably have better Wonders then this one.

Modern Era will probably bring more complex and unique roles that could potentially help with alignment sorting.

Stuff like thismakes it seem like Lil Uzi knew better wonders were coming. Part of that as supposition makes sense. Statment of it as fact does not.

But, I did not want to lynch him day1 because I felt that if he were scum and knew the next days wonders, he wouldn't discourage town from buying them, what with better ones coming.

Mod's answer did not confirm that all players were vanilla, because if so, the most efficient answer would be "Yes".

But, since it is now day2, I want to delve more into this.

Yay someone else sees LUV possible scum based on beginning of day posting.
He IMHO is trying to make sure everyone piles on a given era.

~~Math

[Creature]

DEO's ridiculous agenda

You mean asking to be vigged?

[Leonshade]

VOTE: Caesar

DEO, you could have just... not claimed Stonehenge.

Why are you voting for Caesar?

Leon answer this.

Why not, if you're voting him based solely on his low vote count?

Because skimming the hydra's iso just showed more of the same roleplaying activity. To be honest, I haven't read any of it in depth, and town are likely to get drowned out by noise, especially in a game as large as this one. I just don't see any reason to move my vote elsewhere, especially since I've seen scum do weird things to obfuscate their alignment, like spoilering each individual response in a wall response or [reiterating?] information with strange formatting.

Also, you're fos'ing them and waiting to vote them yourself. Why is that?

Similar reasons, I don't consider the roleplaying inherently scummy but it's easy to hide behind it, so I want to pressure the slot to sort them.

ABR's views on the game really do differ heavily from my own, I'm just not sure if town would so blatantly go against the grain on just about everything.

He's null and I want him pressured.

[Akane and Nebby]

Leon then pressure him besides putting your vote on him?
-Nebby

[The DEO]

Treestump will be auto-lynched eventually anyway, so I don't give a shit.
People were told to leave it to Drixx for a reason, obviously somebody didn't.

ABR's alignment is FAR more useful here.
If he is town, I don't want him lynched and let the rest of the spam posters run riot.

Pyramids is scum. Like Titus and Drixx rule this town. The only townie that would take it is Vecna.

ABR needs to be removed at this point. All he is doing is pitting Math and I against each other. Yet, that will never happen with Math being here nearly convincing me ABR is town pushing him for memory lapses and crap.

With those two undermining me, I cannot function. I cannot call out PV, Caesar and SSM coasting.

Yet, I am not entitled to an ABR lynch no more than he is entitled to lynch Vecna.

I asked the thread what they needed. They picked Caesar. Our hydra will not get in sync as long as ABR is alive.

Town needs to unify around someone or lynch a scum voice.

Us dying accomplishes that.

If I thought there was any other way, I would have proposed it to Math but the thread would not policy/scum lynch ABR. They aren't asking Math to leave and yet complaining about the toxic effects of the three of us in the game. ABR will never agree with my read because it is me.

[Akane and Nebby]

Like, do the asking questions thingy?
-Nebby

[Spiffeh]

Maxous should know better, at least.

It makes more sense to me for newer players to think that DEO's leadership position is justified because of Titus' "legacy" and post count or w/e

But people like Maxous have no excuse for not challenging/ignoring their bullshit

[Leonshade]

DEO honestly just needs to stop posting.

Nothing either head is doing is helpful right now. Titus keeps arguing with ABR and is now proposing a ridiculous plan, Mathblade has a set scum team in their mind and constructs a narrative based on those assumptions when it should be the other way around.

Stop acknowledging them, they're not "leading" town, they don't decide anything.

Gonna keep quoting this until people start ignoring them.

DEO talks a big game about town unity yet they fucking expect a ridiculous plan that they didn't run by anyone to go through and for no one to question it.

They're so full of shit.

JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LARGEST POST COUNT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE ANY AUTHORITY

How does getting mad help us? Suggest something concrete instead of just calling people bad.

[The DEO]

Anyone furthering DEO's ridiculous agenda without question is probably scum

Like Maxous

We don't "have authority".

I am not controlling or manipulating.

I am just saying Pyramids claims today and gets scumchecked by us if we ever die. If they don't they are scum.

The entire purpose of that slot is to die.

Are you Pyramids Spiffeh?

~~Math

[Spiffeh]

Spif who does have authority to you?
Also PV where you at with reads?
-Nebby

Not one singular player

Grouping up players that town read each other and deciding together is fine

Being a controlling overlord and saying things like "this is what town wants so this is the lynch for today" is not ok.

[Creature]

Frogger was also the only player who tried to unite me and DEO. By removing him, they hoped to achieve further chaos and division, in addition to removing a player who was widely townread and trusted. Wherever Frogger voted, people followed, which he remarked upon himself and which unnerved him. He was the one player that could be counted on to lead a united town.

[PeregrineV]

Scum would have to have shot themselves after getting Pyramids if it was Drixx.

Anyone who got Stonehenge was going to be on Drixx.

Not really. I wouldn't, and I doubt I'm the only one.

Wonders get built end of D1.

Daychat wouldn't exist til today.

As scum Drixx would commit to killing himself the first day regardless of what happened in thread to avoid the cop.

There is no cop unless the person getting the deathcop role was killed.
Daychat would not be needed for scum to decide what wonders to build.

but he would still be copped from Stonehenge.

No. That would make a double assumption that requires 2 other actions take place first. I think scum Drixx could take that chance and be totally safe.

Drixx just doesn't make that play. It is scum suicide.

@A&N -- You the pyramids? Kinda doubt it but still gotta ask.

~~Math

I think it's not really much of a risk.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Leonshade

[Creature]

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