Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

so wheres that sheep vote?

[Akane and Nebby]

Dave when you come back why are you haflassing your Creature push if you made it really clear that you scumread him?
-Nebby

[MathBlade]

Not all people are going to care.

Apathy is NAI this game.

Still AFK

[Akane and Nebby]

Re-evaluated Elbrin: Sparknotes eddition;
During resolution voting sheeps science then sheeps onto none cuz he "turned on his brain"
I have no idea what to even make of 233
973 is a catchup post. In fact, it is his ONLY CATCHUP POST WITH A DECENT AMOUNT OF DEPTH IN IT.
Decides to leave Creature alone for a reason I don't understand in 973
Votes Sondam in 973 cuz why?
973 his points on me makes it really seem like he knows I'm town becuase he's refering to my "town meta" when I don't even have a completed scumgame.
1117 is a really easy vote on Notice.
Around this point it REALLY feels like they are trying to buddy me
1766 is another catchup post that's slightly worse then 973. Derails my wagon here.
Why didn't he townread Spif earlier again?
Sheeps onto Beeboy because he likes Spif. Blatantly buddying Spiff
1894 backs out on the Beeboy wagon.
Also was ignoring Yuri around 2364
Talks about BaeReed being a scumread but puts no pressure on him whatsoever (not even a vote)
Complains about the pace of the game a lot.
Never develops a stance on Yuri besides "null"
Specificly wants ABR to contribute here when Kyouko hasn't contributed much around this point, Ooba hasn't contributed much around this point, Ceasars hasn't contributed much around this point.
180s on Beeboy again
Suddenly forms a townread on Beeboy around the time ABR starts doing stuff and doesn't feel scum!ABR
Votes Beeboy again in 3598
Discredits Meta in 3718
Attempts to discredit Titus
Discredits a push on someone based on flavor in 3837
5027 sheeps onto Ceasar after discrediting flavor
5788 feels like he's trying to discredit all of his play prior to this post.
5791 asking Nero where to sheep AFTER HAVING JUST STATED HE'S GONNA START PLAYING THE GAME!

Elbrin knows what pressure looks like. He's not doing the pressure things. I know in NY199 he faked a gladiator to try to put pressure on LUV. Like, I don't think he's making real attempt to even find scum. Just hiding behind "catching up"
VOTE: Elbrin

-Nebby

[Nahdia]

nancy replaces Spiffeh.

[nancy]

Hi everyone I love <3

UNVOTE:

[NoticeMeSenpai]

!!nancy!!

I was feeling pretty down since I read up this morning, but that replace in cheers me up a little.

UNVOTE:

[Akane and Nebby]

I am a mighty lion.
Hear me rawr.

-Nebby

[Akane and Nebby]

BaeReed your thoughts on my Elbrin sparknotes?
-Nebby

[ssbm_Kyouko]

@ mostly Brain and anyone else

pls vote Nebby.

They are scum b/c they tried to blame ABR for the Yuri wagon dissipating when it wasn't his fault. When I pointed this out they said that that wasn't what they were arguing. When I posted quotes of them arguing exactly that (4444 they didn't reply. He then goes on to call me confbias while still calling me scum. It doesn't make sense so I feel like they are scum that know that I am town. He then argued that there was nothing to respond to in 4444. While yes, 4444 doesn't ask a direct question, I find it oddly convenient that they have no response to the crux of my case.

Counterpoint: He's a VI (my words) but Spiff thinks that her blaming ABR comes from bad town and the Maria head of Sodom think she wouldn't be this mind boggingly stupid (embellishment mine)

Playing like I replaced in at this point, so I haven't read this part of the game where yuri got wagoned to L-1, but the timeline in your 4444 doesn't add up. A+N says it wasn't their argument and only later, after you've said it was their argument that they ended up saying it. Looks like gaslighting to me. Did A+N ever say that prior to 4378 when you initially brought up the point?

...
...
...
Is this all you have for a catch up Kyouko?
Really?
Really?
-Nebby

yeah no way am i reading dozens of pages of past interactions when I can start fresh D2. Wouldn't be much different than replacing out overnight

[Akane and Nebby]

And you didn't just A. Replace out if you couldn't keep up with the pace or B. Read overnight becuase?
-Nebby

[Akane and Nebby]

VOTE: SSBM
I need you to talk about problems.

Who is your biggest townread and why?
Who are you scumreading and why?
What do you make of Vecna v ABR day 1 and why?
What do you make of Maxous' vote on you?
-Nebby

[NoticeMeSenpai]

BaeReed your thoughts on my Elbrin sparknotes?
-Nebby

Initially? "Use post tags for post numbers" >.> Forcing me to do the legwork of finding the posts to be able to check context in a game this fast paced is a drag. I'm probably not the only one that feels that way.

There were a few posts of his that pinged me as townish, and others that seemed a toss up between dumb or scum, so I just wrote him off as incompetent if I'm telling the truth.

I'll take another look there after I ISO Spif for Math.

[Akane and Nebby]

I'll get the quotes for you.
-Nebby

[nancy]

!!nancy!!

I was feeling pretty down since I read up this morning, but that replace in cheers me up a little.

UNVOTE:

xD ily

Can I sheep you? ^_^

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Should we make The Pyramids claim (and assume that if it doesn't claim it's scum)?

Absofucking lutely at this point.

~~Math

I am also of this opinion^

[NoticeMeSenpai]

yeah no way am i reading dozens of pages of past interactions when I can start fresh D2. Wouldn't be much different than replacing out overnight

Have you been keeping up with this day phase?
What are your reads so far?

[NoticeMeSenpai]

!!nancy!!

I was feeling pretty down since I read up this morning, but that replace in cheers me up a little.

UNVOTE:

xD ily

Can I sheep you? ^_^

<3 no, babe.

Have you been following along? Is there anything you need from me to catch up?

[nancy]

Aw T_T

I haven't been following but I don't really reread anyway so it's fine, I'll just pick up from here. If there's anything very exceptional that happened I guess?

[nancy]

Omg you called me babe

[Akane and Nebby]

Spoiler: Relevant Elbrin Quotes

You opened the thread while I'm in class WHYYYY

Idk whats happening or what any of this means but I always rush science to the near exclusion of all else so uhh

VOTE: Science

In other news uhh I did read what the two resolutions do and i'ma stick with science. Giving us the ability to better plan ahead for wonders > possibly giving scum more vote power

Did you see that there is an option to vote for neither?

Did you read the concerns brought up by a few players as to why Sciences is the best option for scum?

We could vote neither but that bores me. I demand to be entertained. Also to lay in my Greek marble chair and be fed grapes by pretty ladies.

I did read the posts with the things but I either failed to grok it or did not understand how it's more advantageous for scum than for us.

...No wait my brain just turned on, okay.

VOTE: No Resolution

Science = scum making plots together, while all the townies sit in their greed and go "oh wow I want that next era wonder" and do fuck all

Barry Bee Benson doesn't strike me as scummy

He's just passionately incorrect

Elbrin why did you suddenly switch from Science to None?

-Nebby

I turned my brain on and decided that nah. It's in the post. Science = scum gains more of an advantage than town + town will just bicker and suboptimally argue/choose over roles and bad things happen

Which head is which btw?

Really Elbrin? Really?
Cuz, the way I see it no resolution was getting popular and you just decided to hop along for the ride.

-Nebby

Jesus god this thread did not need to balloon to 40 pages while I was at work I couldn't even keep up by skimming

I had some posts I liked earlier but didn't get to because the game has moved so fast that now they're like 30 pages ago and thus irrelevant

Vecna, Titusblade, drixx, alisaehydra, spiff, Maxous are all town

Furthermore, lmao why the fuck are people voting for max

Hey look some recent highlights

Spoiler:

Oh yeah did I forget to say that beeboy is now an acceptable lynch?
Cuz they are.
-Nebby

Is there anyone that you don't want to lynch?

For sure!
Frogger, DEO, Spif, Elbrin, Vecna, Uzi.

-Nebby

Hey
I just wanted to let you know, you're doing a good job

So far none of my two other scumreads were voted, keep trying.

I don't like anything else creature said and was gonna take a shit on him but this post was so cavalier that I stopped being upset and I will leave him alone for now

Btw reminder not to give any indication of whether you're going for a role today and which role you'd choose.

And when the roles are distributed, don't give any indication of whether you got one or not.

The less scum know about the location of the power roles, the less successful they'll be at neutralizing them.

^ forced.

I mean, that's obvious with any role in any mafia game. Why did you feel the need to point this out?

Because people are still talking about what roles they want to choose when they shouldn't be

It could just be wifom though.

~G

VOTE: Sondam

I AM A MIGHTY LION

HEAR ME RAWR.
RAWR.

I really don't like Garrybote pointing out the wifom there.
Like it sounds like scum trying to discredit more things.

-Nebby

pedit: There's something about his hop onto Spif here that I really do not like.

Keep doing good things you guys

Why is Maxous scum? Why are you so sure they are scum over me that you won't vote someone you just said is scum.

~G

VOTE: Sondham

Do you believe Maxous is scum? Or are you trying to throw more town votes onto his wagon?

~Titus

Titus also doing good work I see

if our brains get too smart they will become self aware and take over our bodys

-Nebby

Truth.

So garrybote/Maria.
You obviously scumread The Deo.
But you took so long to vote them.
What gives my dude?

-Nebby

Alisae-town in my experience likes to use this as a scumtell, or at least gets really annoyed when people don't vote for scumreads, idk here have more points

General ramblings:

Spoiler:

Titus and I seem to be lock-step in a lot of ways this game and I came to a townread here really quick so I'm kinda hype that maybe me and titus have fixed our relationship and now we can mind-meld again and wreck scum.

Her push for science, though I didn't agree with it, is exactly out of titus' playbook and seemed motivated by her desire to run the world (girls)

Sorta tying this together: Drixx mentioned suikoden, where titus took a shit on the scumteam? I was there, she and I recognized each other as town on like page 1 and proceeded to 100% nail scum on intuition and ridiculous role/setup nonsense for a near perfect town win.

Then he mentions space dandy, I was scum that game and let titus and cerb/drixx hydra destroy the game by fighting each other while the 3 of our slots sat in a neighborhood and I sipped my tea

I guess what I'm getting at, aside from my humble bragging, is that I can see Drixx wanting to work with Titus here, given his knowledge of what she can do when shes fucking on point and knowing that if they fight they'll ruin the game, and I can see titus wanting all the pieces in front of her because that's what she does, and frankly I'm happy that they're playing nice because good lord if these two start arguing I might just flake out and anyway they're both town.

Vecna achieved obvtown levels earlier and I really want DEO hydra to not be salty at them

Alisaehydra also Towned to me but I forget all the little details but believe me I saw many things

Have I mentioned that this max wagon is awful and it breaks my heart that it's like entirely my town reads being wrong? Please stop.

Pedit: I wanted to sleep 2.5 hours ago I am not reading the 2 pages of posts that just popped up for no reason, this post is all you get, good bye world

Elbrin why ya hide the vote in the spoilers

-Nebby

Uh fuck u right

VOTE: Sadohom or whatever their name is

I woke up because I temembered what I wanted to say about akane, which is this: their insistence on getting the neighborizer, a piss poor role, to the point that they seem ready to throw a fit and will just "twiddle their thumbs" if they don't get it, struck me as so very much an alisae-move and it makes no sense as a scum-play


As for Nero I see you but I'm still going back to sleep. What you said went over my head but it sounds like Titus just being wrong or something, will re-evaluate sleep consumes me goodbye *dies*

I'm going to be playing catch up the entire game and I can already predict the amount of no fun i'ma have

Pine being a lurk sack bothers me....and I kinda hate Titus pushing so hard to get votes onto Max yet sitting elsewhere.

El, Imma let you sleep but you town reading Titus and hating the Max wagon while Titus was pushing that while avoiding the wagon herself is so bizarre and I want you to talk about it.

Nero is this what you're referring to? Tbh I don't have time to back and check but to the best of my recollection...I think you're saying that titusblade was advocating votes on max but voting for sond; but my interpretation of events was that Titusblade was voting for sond and questioning sond on why they weren't voting for max when they had max as a scumread and they were being wagoned

That's not pushing the max wagon while sitting elsewhere, that's voting for a scumread while questioning why they're being inconsistent and it's 2legit2quit

Vecna achieved obvtown levels earlier and I really want DEO hydra to not be salty at them

Talk to me about this? I haven't liked the way it has been shading The DEO, yet comes across as though it believes they're town when it does.

You and Vecna kinda hashed this out already so uh my response is everything Vecna said.

It's words fill me with good feels and heartsmiles and that's what's most important to me.

And I don't see it as doing shading, it's being snarky and this is fine

I woke up because I temembered what I wanted to say about akane, which is this: their insistence on getting the neighborizer, a piss poor role, to the point that they seem ready to throw a fit and will just "twiddle their thumbs" if they don't get it, struck me as so very much an alisae-move and it makes no sense as a scum-play

That's not even me tho. Nebby = Ali
-Nebby

Tho I know Akane does feel VERY strongly about getting that wonder.
-Nebby

Good lord when I am crowned Thorin, king under the mountain, all hydrae will be abolished forever.

Okay so I was just referring to your hydra as akane because it's the first part of the username

Akane = who?
Nebby = Alisae?

Alisae, baybee, was it not you who was insisting on the neighborizer?

Jae, you just scumclaimed.
Here's why.

The Great Lighthouse (Available only to

non-town

players) Factional topics you are a part of gain day chat as long as you are alive.

How the fuck is a mason supposed to get it when it's only avalable to NON-TOWN PLAYERS!

Like, holy fucking shit Jae. Scum can't be denied something that's only for them.

-Nebby

So this wasn't a scumclaim,
But it was absolutely Jae trying to fake a townslip and reading the posts afterwards is like lol no

UNVOTE:
VOTE: NoticeMeSenpai

Also Happy Birthday Elbrin.

-Nebby

<3

I think that was actually Malachite lol. It's still town from them tho, I agree.

Who the fuck is malachite

Currently could do Drixx, Maxous and Sondam.

Oh I forgot beeboy

You mentioned notice a page earlier? Why are they not on your list?



Pedit: there always has to be a pedit. No one says anything the whole time I'm typing, and then Titus ninjas me a second before I hit submit.

I had a wall of quotes, sighed and then deleted them and I'm just gonna babble some points instead

1. This akane/Nebby wagon is fucking stupid and I am going to derail it now. There is no reason for it.

2. For those of you complaining that "a&n scumread too many people and are too aggro they're just leaving everyone open as a lynch possibility!"

Having played my past two games with town-alisae, this is literally just what he does.

3. For whoever it was who complained earlier that "a&n is too bothered by being scumread and wants to be liked too much"

Having played my past two games with town-alisae, this is literally just what he does.

4. Seriously Jesus cripes get off of a&n

5. Spiffeh is stupidly town and I will follow him into the dark

6. I had other things to say but I forgot, I should have kept the quote wall but I hate those and feel like no one reads them

7. VOTE: BeeBoy

Vote for beeboy and everything will BEE okay

UNVOTE:

I lied I like beeboy

Or are you protecting ABR?

How is not giving the reasoning for my reads protecting ABR?

I don't even know half of your reads. You know ABR likes to control. You know ABR has an ego. Where is he? Waiting for us to implode right?

Yet, you are allowing him the excuse of doing jackshit and not giving reads by refusing to give reads and tell me where the fuck I am right or wrong when availing myself and giving you every excuse to give reads on every slot.

~Titus

Tbh considering the pace of this game I wouldn't blame someone for seeing the thread blowing up and be like

I don't think I have any feelings towards yuri either way. If I were to do one of those fancy coloured lists you all love so much, his colour would be beige, the most boring of colours.

I like to lynch red, the most violent of colours.

There are also like a ton of people who have done fuckall today that need to check in before I'm comfortable with the day ending

Spoiler: Game

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I is Zs.

If Yuri is scum reads:
{DEO, Creature, LUV, Vecna, Frogger, Drixx, Elbrin}
{Notice, PV}
{Ooba, Caesars, Leon}
{Jesus, ABR, Spiffeh}
{Maxous, Kyouko}
{Beeboy, Sondam}
{Yuri}

If Yuri is town:
{Yuri}
{DEO, LUV, Frogger, Drixx, Elbrin, Spiffeh}
{Notice, PV}
{Ooba, Caesars, Leon}
{ABR, Creature, Vecna}
{Sondam, Maxous, Kyouko, Jesus}
{Beeboy}

-Nebby

1. You used Z's instead of X's you fucking monster
2. You used yuri in your reads list after assuming his death and it was really cute

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Titusblade you asked me who is red to me earlier. I want notice roped. Could also go for sondham but thats...they're not red, they're pink. Idk. And I'm low key suspicious of Vecna after some pondering happened in my big brain and I was trying to not out that because I wanted to poke him first.

At some point I decided that I like beeboy but don't remember why but I don't think I wanna lynch there

Nero had me looking at him sideways for his literally backwards reads but I don't think he's scum actually

There's are all the people I want ro call out by name apparently, I can't think of any other examples

I want ABR to contribute
I want Leon to say words again too

I basically have a big beautiful wall of town and a blobby bunch of "who are you people" and not nearly enough scum fucks to gun for.

Why are we lynching with 10 days left

Notice are you still here

Please engage me

Notice me, senpai-NoticeMeSenpai

@Titusblade

I'm pretty sure yuri is town here

I'm not feeling good about abr scum and kinda feel like the tiff that you and him are having is entirely personal and not game related

That is all

Elbrin how do you feel about Beeboy.

VOTE: Beeboy

ABR should be objecting to Caesar's pushing as scum because it's his style of posting and his scum strategy and he isn't.

he quoted a bunch of flavour from towngames

He posts it in short bursts as town. He combined a few things to make it more look volumous. I did a selected sample. You can compare the two in ISO if you want a fuller picture. ABR would be objecting to this type of behavior if town because its his scumgame.

Don't rock the boat.
Try to pressure things but not really.
Post long flavor garbage that makes shit harder and easier to buddy by name.

So to be clear
Abr is scum because you've applied his meta to another player.

10/10

The doubt has been cast.

This wagon will either confirm it or clear them.

Win or loose, we still win.

No we don't. We lose a town and let ABR fracture us.

That's a huge loss to me.

"Disagreeing with Titus" =/= "Fractured town"

ABR should recognize that Caesar is scum because Caesar is using his playbook.

Oh Titus, my poor, sweet titus.

*sits down, grabs titus' hands**looks into eyes*

You don't make ANY fucking sense, darling.

You encounter scum playing your idea scum strategy, do you defend them? Yes or no?

My ideal scum strategy isn't necessarily someone else's scum strategy

Also being overly flavorful is
1. Not some sort of scum mastermind plan
2. Is verifiably not alignment indicative for ABR

And is such a fucking weird thing for you to push on

ABR should recognize that Caesar is scum because Caesar is using his playbook.

Oh Titus, my poor, sweet titus.

*sits down, grabs titus' hands**looks into eyes*

You don't make ANY fucking sense, darling.

You encounter scum playing your idea scum strategy, do you defend them? Yes or no?

My ideal scum strategy isn't necessarily someone else's scum strategy

Also being overly flavorful is
1. Not some sort of scum mastermind plan
2. Is verifiably not alignment indicative for ABR

And is such a fucking weird thing for you to push on

I literally just cased it awhile back.

He overly flavorly spams with Player names as scum.
He avoids conflict deliberately and randomly needles. He advised us to do that in our Cyberpunk PT.

Yet, when Caesar does that, it's no problem.

Dude are you just fucking scum obscuring this?

But he flavors as town too and gave examples of it. I also don't see how including names or not matters or just omg what is this conversation

When I'm scum I pick my nose and wipe it on the couch. Except I also do that when I'm town. And ABR farted on the pillows HE IS SCUM LYNCH HIM NOW

or if you guys really think there is scum in the lurkers we could always lynch Elbrin.

I'm still 20 pages back

What's happening?

What's happening?

I have a light gut scumread on you.

vote Nebby with me.

God, no.

or if you guys really think there is scum in the lurkers we could always lynch Elbrin.

I'm still 20 pages back

What's happening?

Caesar is finally getting rope.

~Titus

FOUR LEGS GOOD
VOTE: Caesar

You know what, fuck it. I'm not reading 40 pages of stupid bullshit and noise, you can all go fuck yourselves

UNVOTE:

The game begins now.

Hi everyone

we are out of RVS, sheep me

Whom am I sheeping you onto, newfriend?

Forgot some more things
208 also is like "Eh, he's just wrong"
2800 is basicly "Engage me, but I'm not going to ask you anything hahahahaha lol XDDDDDDDD"
3718 he disregards the meta usage on ABR but uses meta to analyze me? Huh?
-Nebby

[Akane and Nebby]

<3 no, babe.

Lynch this
-Nebby

[Akane and Nebby]

Also fuck formatting holy fucking shit

@MOD is it possible to fix formatting?

-Nebby

[nancy]

Ok I read 3 pages. So nerocain is scum?

[Nero Cain]

Why am I scum?