Micro 675: Heroes of the Storm uPick - Game Over!

[Foxbird]

Night Actions!

Night 1

Actions

Seiko x Naomi blocks Syryana.
Dunnstral kills Charloux.
Aj The Epic visits Seiko x Naomi.
Persivul summons the Ultralisk.
borkjerfkin places a wisp on Charloux.
The Oxford Bubbles' passive is inactive.

Outcome

Charloux dies.
Aj The Epic visits Seiko x Naomi.
Persivul summons the Ultralisk.
borkjerfkin places a wisp on Charloux. He receives the following result: "A killing action was performed on Charloux."
Dunnstral's Hatred is placed on Seiko x Naomi.

Night 2

Actions

Seiko x Naomi blocks Syryana.
Seiko x Naomi kills borkjerfkin.
Aj The Epic visits borkjerfkin.
borkjerfkin places a wisp on Aj The Epic.
The Oxford Bubbles' passive is inactive.

Outcome

borkjerfkin dies.
Aj The Epic visits borkjerfkin.
borkjerfkin places a wisp on borkjerfkin and receives the following result: "No actions were performed on Aj The Epic."
Dunnstral's Hatred is placed on Persivul.

Night 3

Actions

Seiko x Naomi blocks no one.
Seiko x Naomi kills Aj The Epic.
Aj The Epic visits borkjerfkin.
The Oxford Bubbles' passive is inactive.

Outcome

Aj the Epic dies.
Aj The Epic visits borkjerfkin.

[Foxbird]

PTs:

Dead/Spectator Thread: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8715375
Mafia Thread: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=69990

[Foxbird]

And this concludes the game!

[Dunnstral]

That was pretty troll

[Dunnstral]

So why did I get my 3rd choice btw? Just easier to fit to something?

[notscience]

ily2bork

actually had legitimate reasons I was fading tho

[pieguyn]

before I say anything else, sorry for delaying the game, I was really, really, really, really paranoid that Syr might have been lying about some aspects of his role and had potential to screw me over if I made it obvious I was quick hammering.

I hope I didn't waste too much of all of your time. /embarrassed

[notscience]

also 95% of my tob push was wanting to pull aj out of the fire and push them in

although that one head did really annoy the everliving shit out of me

And I prob would have pushed them as town

[The Oxford Bubbles]

That's disappointing. Well played. (:
I was seriously considering voting SxN in the end. It's a shame I was never in a position to make that decision.

~ Raven

[notscience]

ftr I also wanted to bring bork and syry to lylo for shits and giggles but pie said no

[Foxbird]

So why did I get my 3rd choice btw? Just easier to fit to something?

Having a balanced game with roles that fit the flavour was more important to me than everyone getting their first pick, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out roles for people's more preferred picks at some points.
If that's too much of an issue, I'll do that differently, should I run a uPick again :c

[Dunnstral]

It's fine, my role was pretty neat

[notscience]

I actually did miss you tho bork

Like you made it significantly easier to stay involved in the game

as did syry too! but you were more active

pedit-
^

dunn's role was sweet

[notscience]

Also we were going to bus dunn either way so it didnt really matter if we killed the one person who said something activates on their death

[pieguyn]

town lost with the S_S lynch D1 imo. I still don't really know why you all thought he was scum, and he had probably the best reads in the game. after that the game mostly just devolved even after the Dunn guilty. D2 was cut off, and then I didn't even need to do anything from D3+ just due to the position I was in.

Charl was killed entirely for strategic reasons. he obviously had something that would serve as an adverse effect to us in one way or the other upon his death, so if we were to attempt to kill him, the later we were to do it the riskier it would be and the more potential he'd have to completely fuck us over. however, if we were to leave him alive, he's a player who 1. was very obviously not scum and 2. neither me or notty had any prior experience with and neither of us had had any significant interaction with him throughout the game, so I have to rely on either being able to mislynch him or ensuring that I can keep someone who I don't really have any sort of connection with within my circle of control. I didn't like either of those odds and I saw a lot of better endgame possibilities with him just gone (and this took me into probably the literal best LYLO I could have had), so we just bit the bullet and shot him.

plus, as notty pointed out, we were running a bus on Dunn anyway, so him being guiltied and lynched D2 isn't that far off from what would have happened regardless. I'm honestly a bit surprised that no one realized I had declared a hard scum read on him while attempting to go "well, notty is convinced he's town, so..." to avoid his wagon, but, w/e.

gg, and thanks Foxbird for the game. sorry again Dunn for the N1 that got you killed, you were a really awesome partner. :<

[Dunnstral]

Also we were going to bus dunn either way

Nobody told dunn

[pieguyn]

That's disappointing. Well played. (:
I was seriously considering voting SxN in the end. It's a shame I was never in a position to make that decision.

~ Raven

you were asking all the right questions. I did have a lot more I woulda came at you with re: my Persi read if you had asked for elaboration, so I at least feel I could have attempted to back up how confident I was acting about it, but largely, the Persi lynch was mostly a lynch that had huge utility for us + just general misgivings about stuff he had done during the game on a general level.

I'm fairly sure I woulda got it even without him being hated, too, but had that been the case I'd have had to put significantly more effort into securing it.

[pieguyn]

I'm OK with releasing scum PT, btw.

[pieguyn]

WTF? Why is this still going on?

What has SxN done this game? They convinced bork they were town. Since bork was obvtown and outposted everyone else by a factor of 3 or 4, that pretty much won them the game. You don't have to be obvtown to everyone to win as scum.

this is a very true post, btw.

the goal of playing scum isn't to play in a way where every single player watching or playing the game would be convinced of you being town, it's to endgame the town. pretty much all of my D1 was based around the fact that at the point when the game started, bork and Syr had the most credibility in the player list in reading me, and that I'd be in a very good position if I could bloc up with them and have them supporting me. if it looked like I didn't do anything D3+, it's because I didn't, because I didn't need to; everyone was still largely convinced I was town, so, /shrug

[Foxbird]

Scum PT has been released! Link's in the earlier post.

[borkjerfkin]

Gg. meta is officially dead to me.

Maybe id then have focused more on what you were saying vs how you were saying it

[Aj The Epic]

At the same time, no one in the town really helped the cause that much... OA was really fucking scummy, bubbles wasn't interested and I was completely off. Then we lynched a bunch of vote-affecting roles for some random ass reason. Oh well. Notty's gotten a lot better at playing scum from the last I remember.

[borkjerfkin]

Seiko claim deserved more scrutiny than it got, if nothing else

[Syryana]

Well shit.

Gg lads n lasses, I got schooled

[Regfan]

Tuned in on this game about half way through, was fairly certain Pie was scum and was going to win when I did so; think town got themselves far too locked in on reads in the late game, need to reassess far more than what happened, that said Pie played to the rooms weaknesses well again. I'd argue there was

too much

role speculation used inside the game as well, instead of looking at the role alone need to look at how people have claimed and used it, TOBs belief that the claim order being amended might help town was a very genuine argument presented even if logically it did minimal.

Should never be voting that early in a lylo, really a cardinal sin especially when the other two players are mid way through an interaction that's bound to provide information one way or another.

Dunn, you really always do roll scum don't you?