Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MathBlade]

So?

Hydra is NAI.

Two of your hard townreads are wrong.

Tell me which and why.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

60 pages and counting.

[Vecna]

Dave/SSBM/Creature/Elbrin can't get the other one. Rest are hard Town reads.

Good, because these overlap strongly with my scumreads and me and luv are actually town.

Seems we found ourself our comprimised lynchlist after we get rid of abr.

Or to put it in math-terms; just continue to help me bus my team, win-win

[Elbirn]

Easy. If notice was NOT faking the townslip, but did actually townslip, then Yuri could be scum trying to whiteknight Notice.

Not sure on any Vecna-Notice relationship, or lack thereof.

That could be a good point, but it's not the point that he made, unless I'm hilariously confused.

What I recall from it was vecna saying that yuri thought of the example of notice town slipping "too quickly" and that this indicates he had notice on the brain and that this meant they had an existing relationship and were therefore scum

[Vecna]

It's a really weird bit of mental gymnastics to justify moving off of one wagon onto another, while still claiming to scumread the first. Couple this with my scumread on notice and a townread on Yuri and the whole thing stinks like scum distancing from a buddy while voting town. Scum 101.

Really? Changing your vote from one scumread to another requires a "weird bit of mental gymnastics"?

Dude that's not the point. No, not even that, it's just wrong.

Here's my understanding of the events:

Vecna was voting for notice for faking a townslip

Yuri had some comment about the townslip, can't recall specifics

Vecna then pushed Yuri's comments as being indicative of a relationship with notice, which made no earthly sense (this is the mental gymnastics part), and then voted for yuri.

Why would you....not just vote for the actual scumread and not someone who is conditional based on that scumread.

And unless I've missed something he's still dead set on notice being scum but he won't vote there.

Because i scumread yuri as well and that wagon had a higher likelyhood of succes, AND would create the opportunity to follow up on notice the day after with extra ammunition.

There really is no need for gymnastics, its rather simple.

[Vecna]

It's a really weird bit of mental gymnastics to justify moving off of one wagon onto another, while still claiming to scumread the first. Couple this with my scumread on notice and a townread on Yuri and the whole thing stinks like scum distancing from a buddy while voting town. Scum 101.

Really? Changing your vote from one scumread to another requires a "weird bit of mental gymnastics"?

Dude that's not the point. No, not even that, it's just wrong.

Here's my understanding of the events:

Vecna was voting for notice for faking a townslip

Yuri had some comment about the townslip, can't recall specifics

Vecna then pushed Yuri's comments as being indicative of a relationship with notice, which made no earthly sense (this is the mental gymnastics part), and then voted for yuri.

Why would you....not just vote for the actual scumread and not someone who is conditional based on that scumread.

And unless I've missed something he's still dead set on notice being scum but he won't vote there.

As for the last part, my scumread has gone. You can check my iso for the posts that resulted in that.

Im as transparent as they get - it just requires actually reading my posts.

[Creature]

Tell me which and why.

I think there are five scum left and you're wrong on me (though not on others), so two of your hard townreads must be wrong.

[MathBlade]

Tell me which and why.

I think there are five scum left and you're wrong on me (though not on others), so two of your hard townreads must be wrong.

That is assuming all my scumreads were wrong.

Tell me why all my scumreads are wrong with the current VC.

Napping be back later.

[Sondam]

Brian Skyes are you from epicmafia

-G

[Sondam]

Creature needs rope asap

~Gerry

Why is Maria avoiding this game?

Prob cause you guys are being bad.

-G

[Sondam]

@Mod can we be put on VLA till the 23rd since I'm on vacation still

noted

[Sondam]

Idk who we are voting but creature is scum.

VOTE: Creature

[Creature]

Tell me why all my scumreads are wrong with the current VC.

Your only wrong scumread is me.

[Creature]

Why are you townreading Sondam?

[Nero Cain]

Ive provided plenty of material this game for your read to be based on other stuff that isnt gu

yes you have but that doesn't make my reason that I had a gut scum read on you and then you tried to laugh it off (and I think thats a scummy reaction) any less valid. Also your self vote is just scum

ATE

. Like if you were really concerned with sheep voting and junk you'd be wary as hell of the Cesar and ABR wagons.

[Nero Cain]

What is it you want talked about?

how you feel about A+N




I'm also really surprised that Max has been mum on my A+N hate given that he was scum reading them d1 so idk why he's avoiding discussing them.

[PeregrineV]

Easy. If notice was NOT faking the townslip, but did actually townslip, then Yuri could be scum trying to whiteknight Notice.

Not sure on any Vecna-Notice relationship, or lack thereof.

That could be a good point, but it's not the point that he made, unless I'm hilariously confused.

What I recall from it was vecna saying that yuri thought of the example of notice town slipping "too quickly" and that this indicates he had notice on the brain and that this meant they had an existing relationship and were therefore scum

Ok, yeah, I remember that.

Didn't find it compelling then, don't find it compelling now.

[Elbirn]

Easy. If notice was NOT faking the townslip, but did actually townslip, then Yuri could be scum trying to whiteknight Notice.

Not sure on any Vecna-Notice relationship, or lack thereof.

That could be a good point, but it's not the point that he made, unless I'm hilariously confused.

What I recall from it was vecna saying that yuri thought of the example of notice town slipping "too quickly" and that this indicates he had notice on the brain and that this meant they had an existing relationship and were therefore scum

Ok, yeah, I remember that.

Didn't find it compelling then, don't find it compelling now.

Didn't find it compelling meaning vecna's push?

Cuz it's contrived as fuck

[Creature]

The less ABR tries to gamesolve, the less I feel like I should defend him.

[MathBlade]

Tell me why all my scumreads are wrong with the current VC.

Your only wrong scumread is me.

Correction:

PV asked if all my current scumreads are wrong.

Which are currently Yuri/LUV/ABR/Vecna in no particular order.

Please explain how all of those are Town.

[MathBlade]

Why are you townreading Sondam?

Her entrance. She doesn't do what she did there as scum.

Don't want to get into meta tells so that way I can see if it works reliably.

[Creature]

Oh right, thought you had only Dave/SSBM/me/Elbirn as scumreads.

[Maxous]

I'm not enthused of following the same block that strong-armed beeboy.

The block that strongarmed beeboy consisted of people that are either abr (up for lynch) or have replaced out.

Try again

Washing your hands of the beeboy lynch does not sit well with me.
At all
Gimme a break
VOTE: Vecna

[Brian Skies]

slots that haven't talked about it at all

Brian Skies

I did talk about it. You just don't like my response.

[davesaz]

Town (unordered)
davesaz
Akane and Nebby
Nero Cain
Yuri
MathBlade
Vecna
Brian Skies
nancy

Townish
Creature
Caesar Wills It

Not sorted
Leonshade
Elbirn
ssbm_Kyouko
Maxous
PeregrineV
Sondam
NoticeMeSenpai

Scum
Lil Uzi Vert
Albert B. Rampage

VOTE: ABR