Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[nancy]

Hi Elbirn. How are you?

[Nero Cain]

5937, 5932, 5920, 5864, 5851, 5843, 5825, 5790.... not going to keep going

So in reality this is just a neatly disguised OMGUS since apparently any posts about me disliking that you wouldn't explain your scum read on me in "manipulation".

Tell me why I should have not thought it was scummy that you wouldn't back up your statement that my ISO was bad?

Also 5790? Its like you are just listing posts without even thinking about them.

[nancy]

6707 is just another example and now you're edging into just shading. I have no idea how you believe that you can think me replacing into a thread an scumreading you is anything remotely like OMGUS. All of the posts I linked contain subtle tonal manipulation where you twist either a question or a statement into having limited interpretations that serve you and your argument. It's perfectly fine for you find it scummy of me for not backing up a read with substantive content but threatening me with a scumread if I didn't do what you wanted and making underhanded comments about my motives is plainly manipulative and does not come from an unbiased Town mentality. You want to find the worst and you find it.

[Nero Cain]

It's perfectly fine for you find it scummy of me for not backing up a read with substantive content but threatening me with a scumread if I didn't do what you wanted and making underhanded comments about my motives is plainly manipulative and does not come from an unbiased Town mentality.

So I can scumread you but when I explain why I'm scumreading you and what I think you are doing its manipulation? I was also already scumreading your slot and its not like I was like "hey explain or I'm going to start scumreading you."

You called my ISO scummy, I asked you why and you went X ammount of time not explaining it. Why should I have not thought you were stalling?

[nancy]

It's manipulation because you ask your questions and point your statements in an insincere way. You attempt to force your interpetation of things onto others and the only way for them to answer you is to accept those terms or seem to be defending themselves. By artificially manufacturing a context where they are scum or where they hold X position you make any response they make seem scummy or their position weak. Your tone suggests that you have no real interest in conversation because you only want them to say what you want to hear. Anything that doesn't follow this is considered scummy. Suggesting that I was stalling is just ludicrous.

[Nero Cain]

Isn't saying that my posts are "insincere" just as manipulative?

[Nero Cain]

and if manipulation is scummy to you why are A+N, Dave, and Uzi not scum reads for you? That "ABR ruined the the Yuri wagon and town cohesion" that they are pushing seems super manipulative.

[MathBlade]

MathBlade do you hate townblocs this game? Because from what I can see Town is all over the place and we need to get our act into gear and start hanging scumfucks.

I hate townblocs almost every game.
Especially since Titus tried to form one with like all of my scumreads.

Who would you put in it?

[MathBlade]

Unless you are right it is a popularity contest and at that point things go so far down hill.

[Nero Cain]

this whole game is a popularity contest

[Nero Cain]

Why did you and Titus create a new hydra for this game? What does RC have to do with anything? Did you guys fight in Thing mafia?

[nancy]

@Nero No, it isn't.

Because my reads are not based on a single criterion.


@Math Atm I'm not too sure beyond you, Caesar, and Senpai. My reads aren't solid enough yet. We really need to start doing some serious organizing, though. I couldn't care less about popularity contests, that's not what townblocs are.

[MathBlade]

Why did you and Titus create a new hydra for this game? What does RC have to do with anything? Did you guys fight in Thing mafia?

This hydra was one that got made because I was an original secret part of a hydra.

Even wrote a post that said "I am Titus" or something like that.

We used this one because the other had bad memories and an easier password.

[MathBlade]

@Nero No, it isn't.

Because my reads are not based on a single criterion.


@Math Atm I'm not too sure beyond you, Caesar, and Senpai. My reads aren't solid enough yet. We really need to start doing some serious organizing, though. I couldn't care less about popularity contests, that's not what townblocs are.

I could do that.

[Akane and Nebby]

lol LUV being manipulative.
That's cute.
-Nebby

[MathBlade]

lol LUV being manipulative.
That's cute.
-Nebby

I think A&N is a good pick too.

[Akane and Nebby]

lol LUV being manipulative.
That's cute.
-Nebby

I think A&N is a good pick too.

Pick for?
-Nebby

[MathBlade]

Townblock nancy wants.

[nancy]

Townbloc Town needs.

[nancy]

I'm pining for august.

[Vecna]

Ive provided plenty of material this game for your read to be based on other stuff that isnt gu

yes you have but that doesn't make my reason that I had a gut scum read on you and then you tried to laugh it off (and I think thats a scummy reaction) any less valid. Also your self vote is just scum

ATE

. Like if you were really concerned with sheep voting and junk you'd be wary as hell of the Cesar and ABR wagons.

The opposition to the abr wagon is rather telling actually.

[Nero Cain]

Ive provided plenty of material this game for your read to be based on other stuff that isnt gu

yes you have but that doesn't make my reason that I had a gut scum read on you and then you tried to laugh it off (and I think thats a scummy reaction) any less valid. Also your self vote is just scum

ATE

. Like if you were really concerned with sheep voting and junk you'd be wary as hell of the Cesar and ABR wagons.

The opposition to the abr wagon is rather telling actually.

Who is the scum not bussing ABR and who are the town misreading him?

[Vecna]

I'm not enthused of following the same block that strong-armed beeboy.

The block that strongarmed beeboy consisted of people that are either abr (up for lynch) or have replaced out.

Try again

Washing your hands of the beeboy lynch does not sit well with me.
At all
Gimme a break
VOTE: Vecna

I was voting abr, and pushing everybody to do the same. Both me and deo wanted abr.

I did indicate willingness to compromise if abr wagon would die but mostly to wake people up to abr scum and to keep the townblock intact.

And yes, beboy got strongarmed in the night while i wasnt around. So you using this to vote mr with this bukshit reasoning only strengthens my naughty read on you.

[Vecna]

Good, because these overlap strongly with my scumreads and me and luv are actually town.

What is your townread on LUV based on?

Already explained in great detail. Strong meta observations from my last game where i was scum with luv.

Maxous and math should be fully aware of this as well but are choosing to not see it or ingerpret it completely different for i dont know what reasoning.

[Nahdia]

bump or whatever