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Post Post #6450 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:20 am

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In post 6443, Nero Cain wrote:IDK, I still feel like your "ABR ruined the Yuri wagon!" was p manipulative and thus scummy. Dave and whomever else coming to your defense "well we thought the same thing!) could be scum trying to invalidate my case/defend you.
A quick perusal of any of my scum games would reveal that I jump ship at the first sign of trouble. Defending would not be my thing.
Granted that's self meta and I don't think you're wrong to be suspicious. If you weren't, I might consider it a scumtell.
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Post Post #6451 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:22 am

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In post 6448, Vecna wrote:A&N please explaim to me why you think I'm teamed with abr all of a sudden. Do you really believe all that i did was an aggressive bus?
Honestly that whole thing really just sorta came off as theatre to me tbh.
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Post Post #6452 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:23 am

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In post 6450, davesaz wrote:
In post 6443, Nero Cain wrote:IDK, I still feel like your "ABR ruined the Yuri wagon!" was p manipulative and thus scummy. Dave and whomever else coming to your defense "well we thought the same thing!) could be scum trying to invalidate my case/defend you.
A quick perusal of any of my scum games would reveal that I jump ship at the first sign of trouble. Defending would not be my thing.
Granted that's self meta and I don't think you're wrong to be suspicious. If you weren't, I might consider it a scumtell.
What do you consider to be a scumtell this game? You just seem to be floating and doing nothing.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #6453 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:24 am

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Ali, what do you think of Titus trying to push me as an ABR buddy?
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Post Post #6454 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:25 am

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Where was this exactly?
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Post Post #6455 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:30 am

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In post 2627, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2622, The DEO wrote:Or are you protecting ABR?
How is not giving the reasoning for my reads protecting ABR?

In post 2641, The DEO wrote:Nero, you're refusing to give reads is stopping me from getting accountability from ABR.
could be more but thats the main gist of it
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Post Post #6456 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:33 am

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In post 6452, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6450, davesaz wrote:
In post 6443, Nero Cain wrote:IDK, I still feel like your "ABR ruined the Yuri wagon!" was p manipulative and thus scummy. Dave and whomever else coming to your defense "well we thought the same thing!) could be scum trying to invalidate my case/defend you.
A quick perusal of any of my scum games would reveal that I jump ship at the first sign of trouble. Defending would not be my thing.
Granted that's self meta and I don't think you're wrong to be suspicious. If you weren't, I might consider it a scumtell.
What do you consider to be a scumtell this game? You just seem to be floating and doing nothing.
you can scratch that, I see your reads list.
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Post Post #6457 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:35 am

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I don't care about that association stuff until there's a scumflip.
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Post Post #6458 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:39 am

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In post 6452, Nero Cain wrote: What do you consider to be a scumtell this game? You just seem to be floating and doing nothing.
Floating -> drowning and you'd be a little closer to the truth.
My early game is typically shit anyway. Don't give me crap about almost 6500 posts not being early -- it's still d2 and my strength comes with lots of flips.
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Post Post #6459 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:56 am

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In post 6451, Akane and Nebby wrote:
In post 6448, Vecna wrote:A&N please explaim to me why you think I'm teamed with abr all of a sudden. Do you really believe all that i did was an aggressive bus?
Honestly that whole thing really just sorta came off as theatre to me tbh.
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Also the games Vecna is talking about in case anyone wants to read:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=67145
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69418
What part of it did you think theatrical? Because you seemed to agree with me at the time, and you never mentioned it as theatrics until now if im not mistaken
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Post Post #6460 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:57 am

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In post 6459, Vecna wrote:
In post 6451, Akane and Nebby wrote:
In post 6448, Vecna wrote:A&N please explaim to me why you think I'm teamed with abr all of a sudden. Do you really believe all that i did was an aggressive bus?
Honestly that whole thing really just sorta came off as theatre to me tbh.
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Also the games Vecna is talking about in case anyone wants to read:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=67145
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69418
What part of it did you think theatrical? Because you seemed to agree with me at the time, and you never mentioned it as theatrics until now if im not mistaken
I did a reset Vecna.
Also gut.
But I did mention it earlier, it just something about that interaciton just seemed really really fake.
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Post Post #6461 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:58 am

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In post 6458, davesaz wrote:
In post 6452, Nero Cain wrote: What do you consider to be a scumtell this game? You just seem to be floating and doing nothing.
Floating -> drowning and you'd be a little closer to the truth.
My early game is typically shit anyway. Don't give me crap about almost 6500 posts not being early -- it's still d2 and my strength comes with lots of flips.
Really? The one completed game we have together where you were townb you became very quiet Later on.
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Post Post #6462 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:00 am

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In post 6460, Akane and Nebby wrote:
In post 6459, Vecna wrote:
In post 6451, Akane and Nebby wrote:
In post 6448, Vecna wrote:A&N please explaim to me why you think I'm teamed with abr all of a sudden. Do you really believe all that i did was an aggressive bus?
Honestly that whole thing really just sorta came off as theatre to me tbh.
-Nebby

Also the games Vecna is talking about in case anyone wants to read:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=67145
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69418
What part of it did you think theatrical? Because you seemed to agree with me at the time, and you never mentioned it as theatrics until now if im not mistaken
I did a reset Vecna.
Also gut.
But I did mention it earlier, it just something about that interaciton just seemed really really fake.
-Nebby
You did a reset where you went to reread that interaction? And then suddenly came to a different conclusion?

What seemed fake about it? I posted a large lost of reasons why i thought he was scum, did you agree with those or not? (Pv quoted the list a few pages ago)
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Post Post #6463 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:09 am

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Wait isn't ABR asking to be replaced a player specific policly lynch for him or am I just straight up wrong on that?
And yeah I honestly just completely forgot that post and find myself agreeing with it.
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Post Post #6464 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:09 am

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Just your hop back onto Beeboy was just wierd.
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Post Post #6465 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:13 am

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Going throigh your iso;
Joining me on abr on several occasions, never no mention of thinking im bussing him or that its theatrics.

When it was looking like i was getting hammered you suddenly jumped on me. Wheb asked about it, it was suddenly scum theatrics. While you were townreading me all game.

Now its a reset?

Im not sure if im buying this explenation. Not at all.

I already found it weird when abr was scumreading you the way he did. Im now thinking he mightve been bussing you back out of annoyance that you were sheeping me on him.

When i became a likely lynch you decided it was time to get rid.of me to save abr today.

Notice how this also works if abr is town. Getting me hammered, and most likely abr as a result tomorrow.

Major suspicion has been raised against A&N.

I will join a wagon on A&N.

Thoughts about this people? Its looking mightily suspicious. Also look at the 180 on Elbirn.
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Post Post #6466 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:15 am

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tbh I've been mostly hush hush about my reads from somewhat after Nero was tunneling me to now.
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Post Post #6467 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:19 am

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Your actions said enough. Your actions and votes said you agreed with me. Youve been agreeing with me on almost everything all game.

Then when it looks likely ill get lynched you suddenly vote me.

And now you justify your actions with a read reset.

I think this is what caught scum look like.
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Post Post #6468 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:20 am

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I find it interesting you're considering me as an option now for reasons I don't want to mention. :D
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Post Post #6469 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:22 am

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Dont want to or not allowed to?
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Post Post #6470 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:23 am

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At any rate, welcome to my priority lynch list.

My list of vecna/abr as only vote options today has been expanded by +1
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Post Post #6471 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:24 am

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Don't want to.
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Post Post #6472 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:25 am

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Also you talk like you have authority which you don't considering people are voting outside of Vecna/ABR/Me
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Post Post #6473 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:26 am

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Im only talking about my own vote and actions.

Both of which will now be focused on you and abr.
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Post Post #6474 (ISO) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:27 am

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Be it known that Our attention has returned to the Senate's deliberations, and We intend to see all questions posed to Us, including Our assessment of Senator Yuri, before we next slumber. If there are any within this chamber who would like to make petition for Our more immediate attention, or request We assign priority to one of the matters before Us, let them speak now.
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