1- Because that's his Town playIn post 2978, Nero Cain wrote:ok why is RC town?
there are only two killing roles as far as I know. If we assume RC is town why would either mafia or the SK EVER shoot at that big piece of mislynch bait?In post 2980, Almost50 wrote:In my mind it had to do with him being the preferred NK target for a number of payers, so he was partially saving the SLOT from being NK'd.
on top of it, how likely he could find PR N1? And by offering reveal role he admitted it's PRIn post 2988, James3 wrote:Note that Comm's offer deliberately precludes him proving that hes actually a rolecop (not that that would prove his alignment). If he just town-confirms someone, that won't show that he knows their role. If he simply states that a role is in the game, there will be no way to disprove it.
Let us first define a "Power Role". When you say PR, do you mean anything that is "Not Vanilla"? Or do you reserve the title to actually "Roles that have POWERS"? In my mind, I would not call -say- a Fruit Vendor a PR. Nurse, Deputy, and pretty much any backup role is NOT a PR in my definition until they actually get promoted and take charge of the role itself.In post 2989, Ramcius wrote:on top of it, how likely he could find PR N1? And by offering reveal role he admitted it's PRIn post 2988, James3 wrote:Note that Comm's offer deliberately precludes him proving that hes actually a rolecop (not that that would prove his alignment). If he just town-confirms someone, that won't show that he knows their role. If he simply states that a role is in the game, there will be no way to disprove it.
1- Because it was RC, and you and I both know how hard it is to get him lynched.In post 2984, Nero Cain wrote:there are only two killing roles as far as I know. If we assume RC is town why would either mafia or the SK EVER shoot at that big piece of mislynch bait?In post 2980, Almost50 wrote:In my mind it had to do with him being the preferred NK target for a number of payers, so he was partially saving the SLOT from being NK'd.
as PR i say not vanilla, getting vanilla would have no reason to ask us if we want hear what role he got, and game not bastard, soIn post 2990, Almost50 wrote:Let us first define a "Power Role". When you say PR, do you mean anything that is "Not Vanilla"? Or do you reserve the title to actually "Roles that have POWERS"? In my mind, I would not call -say- a Fruit Vendor a PR. Nurse, Deputy, and pretty much any backup role is NOT a PR in my definition until they actually get promoted and take charge of the role itself.In post 2989, Ramcius wrote:on top of it, how likely he could find PR N1? And by offering reveal role he admitted it's PRIn post 2988, James3 wrote:Note that Comm's offer deliberately precludes him proving that hes actually a rolecop (not that that would prove his alignment). If he just town-confirms someone, that won't show that he knows their role. If he simply states that a role is in the game, there will be no way to disprove it.
Also, Comm doesn't really need to prove his role. No player in their right minds would fake claim a Role Cop to begin with (your fake claim must be something easy to prove). Also, I have no doubt in his alignment also because of the TIMING of the claim.
Now let's say I'm Mafia, and someone claims ONE SHOT Cop. Why -on the plane- would I even care to counter?? First of all, other than James there were 16 other souls. Assuming 4 Scums that makes it 75% likely James will hit Town. The right play is to let him be and take him out at night. Period.
Even better: Keep your mouth shut (assuming you're Scum and regardless of your role) and see if another TOWN PLAYER counters or even crumbs. Why provide cover for "another investigative" by claiming (or fake claiming) yourself, when you had everything under your control.
Let me say it again: If I was Scum, and REGARDLESS of my role, James comes out and claims 1-X Cop, and I will embrace it to my heart in waits for someone else to CC. If it happens I have TWO Town PRs who willingly gave me their roles w/o me even saying a word, and I have the choice to take either of them out silently. If nobody steps up, then James is probably confirmed Cop, and I will take him out anyway, without having to claim ANYTHING.
Now let's consider the opposite. Let's ASSUME James is Scum an is fake claiming. He lives to D3, and his team tries to kill Comm a night. hey fail, he claims a guilty on Comm, Comm gets lynched, and James is the default lynchee of D4 (first Mafia player caught). Meanwhile, Mafia have already mislynched 2 (including a Role Cop) and killed 2 (taking into account the delay of kills, which is now compensated by an NK on N1 and no kills on N2).
Now I'm NOT accusing James of being Scum. All I'm saying is if we consider the timing and nature of both claims and if we assumed there's definitely one Scum in these two it'd be much more likely the 1-X Cop and not the RC. However, I think they are both Town TBF.
Finally, due to having 2 full days of VCs (and today being the third) with Vifam being on the focal point of both days, there's MUCH more info to be gained from his lynch (even if he flips green, which he won't), while lynching Comm now gives us next to nothing.
VOTE: Vifam
considering i was pushing your top SR since D1, yet i couldn't get that lynch due insane resistance, i was defending RC against all those knuckleheads, i was pushing Comm since his claim, honestly i have no idea why i'm still alive, thx for making my day and reading a bit more of tread would be helpful 
obv we want the townreadIn post 2976, CommKnight wrote:Sooo... I'll out one thing and one thing only. I'll let you guys choose. Do you want to know the role I found or who I now 100% town read because of the role I found?
So, what you're saying is:In post 2996, James3 wrote:Apparently you didn't read my post. I got a guilty result on Comm. He is confirmed scum.