Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

[PeregrineV]

Yeah because we weren't gonna lynch two cop claims D1

We know that.
Do they know that?

I don't recognize either Comm or James, so maybe they are new enough to the site to not know it.

[James3]

Reminder, there is no evidence that Comm is town. Even if he actually is a rolecop, he's still scum.

P.S. If I get mislynched, please do not quickhammer. I'd like to hammer myself and make a final statement if that happens.

[PeregrineV]

1. Comm could be a scum rolecop

2. Comm could have taken a guess that there was a vig out there

3. You could be his buddy.

Whatever the case, he's still scum.

I should've shot you just to rid us all of your annoyance, but I assumed Scum would do it for us! *Sigh*

So, how come nobody asked whom I shot?? It's not like I'm going to tell, but still.. how come nobody cares?

Because based on your opening post where you didn't even read the game, that means either you are lying, or you shot randomly. Since shooting randomly doesn't seem your style, I really don't think you are the vig.

@Comm:

No, and Yes (let's confirm someone, but let's NOT expose their role).

I'll be honest: I haven't exactly “read” anything yet. I just took a quick glance on the jest of it. I do not plan on doing a “proper” full read either; meaning I won't be reading the whole thing post by post and word by word (You guys have broken the record for shit posting %age). I may read some sections thoroughly, but only if I'm prompted to (or feel the need to). This also has to do with the number of replacements that occurred that it's going to cause me a real headache if I tried to track each slot to it's original occupier and their successor(s)). I intend to keep up starting D3 though.

Any questions/remarks?

Now why is Vifam still alive?? Tywin needs to step up as a Town leader and get this lynch over with. James needs to step DOWN his high heels and get in the mix. Nero needs to open his eyes and actually "do a Nero" (I know you CAN). Too bad RC replaced out. I could have worked with him, but Yume is fine too.

There is still a 50% player base that I have never played with before (at least not with these usernames) so it might take us a while to get acquainted, but let's first show respect to each other and try to work with each other.

[TTTT]

oh well, then no reason to delay, i'm jailkeeper and jailed Havingfitz N1, timeshifted to N2

@James
what do you make of Ram saying he doesn't believe your claim
yet he isn't voting you?

[TTTT]

that quote doesn't go there.

[PeregrineV]

Alright, I actually lied about my shots. Erm.. ONE is delayed... the other is Normal. That's why I had to ask the mods about the difference. I used the delayed shot and have the other one to use tonight.

P-edit:

Yes, Scum Role Cops are a thing, but so are Scum Goons faking a PR to get a TPR lynched.

Seriously though, Framers are also a "thing", and so are redirectors. Those things are called ROLES, along with many others that are often seen in Mafia games. Ever tried to play Mafia before?? It's a WONDERFUL game, but it requires a thing or two you seem to be lacking. I'll let you figure what those are.

Except you are also non-consecutive, and if you used one last night, you can't use the other tonight.

Right?

[Vifam]

Yeah because we weren't gonna lynch two cop claims D1

We know that.
Do they know that?

I don't recognize either Comm or James, so maybe they are new enough to the site to not know it.

idk man everyone is being a dickhead in this game

[TTTT]

I wanna remind the game:
we have no confirmation that there is a bus-driver, re-directer, or framer
plz stop assuming any of these roles are present in your analysis
this isn't that complicated
ok it is, but...
we have a claimed 1-shot cop (James) with a claimed guilty on Comm
So we lynch there today.
And it's better we lynch James
bc
1. his claimed 1-shot would be used up anyway
2. his overall play is anti-town
3. he's a Navy SEAL and shouldn't be wasting his time on the webz

[TTTT]

4. his avatar is, legit, a fascist

[Almost50]

let me ask, how i know who Comm checked to claim that person jk? Comm claimed AFTER me, your theory have really huge flaw there, but i would like to be lynched, atleast this game would end for me and i could laugh from you all in dead chat

*Sigh*

I did and quick ISO of the both of you and you're right. Oh, well.. I don't know anymore.

On another note, why would you laugh? It's not like you're doing any better than the rest of us while you're alive. We all played and and Scum took control from the start. If James flips Town I'll hate him forever. If he is Scum though, I'd tip my hat for him. HE handed this game over to Scum.

I don't even know whom to FULLY trust anymore.

P-edit:

VOTE: James[/James]

I agree, but Ram's behaviour over this lynch on particular is overly suspicious.

[Almost50]

Except you are also non-consecutive, and if you used one last night, you can't use the other tonight.

Right?

Does it matter? I already shot a DELAYED shot last night, so it resolves tonight regardless. If the redirector is timeshifted (and I think he is) he will redirect my shot unto me or Comm and his teammates will shoot the other.

[Ramcius]

let me ask, how i know who Comm checked to claim that person jk? Comm claimed AFTER me, your theory have really huge flaw there, but i would like to be lynched, atleast this game would end for me and i could laugh from you all in dead chat

*Sigh*

I did and quick ISO of the both of you and you're right. Oh, well.. I don't know anymore.

On another note, why would you laugh? It's not like you're doing any better than the rest of us while you're alive. We all played and and Scum took control from the start. If James flips Town I'll hate him forever. If he is Scum though, I'd tip my hat for him. HE handed this game over to Scum.

I don't even know whom to FULLY trust anymore.

P-edit:

VOTE: James[/James]

I agree, but Ram's behaviour over this lynch on particular is overly suspicious.

we will judge after game who did well, who didn't, but at this point i feel outlier, so either i'm right and you guys doing bad, or i'm wrong and still i would laugh how bad i was knowing who is scumteam

[James3]

oh well, then no reason to delay, i'm jailkeeper and jailed Havingfitz N1, timeshifted to N2

@James
what do you make of Ram saying he doesn't believe your claim
yet he isn't voting you?

That's a perfectly reasonable stance for him to take given our history.

[D3f3nd3r]

Almost's James vote a couple posts up doesn't count.

[PeregrineV]

@Comm...pardon if this question has already been asked, I do not recall seeing it...but why did you choose to RC me (I know...you sr me) instead of James (who has been 1v1ing you since D1)?

James was pretty obvious scum. I mean who the hell in their right mind with a non-consecutive role cop ability waste it on obvious scum? We'd just enter into today with his claim being the same and me saying he's Vanilla/Mafia PR. I mean I guess there's the slim chance he has a Jester role. But he's been obvious to me since the beginning but no one wanted to actually LOOK at James' shit posts. But people kept telling me to drop it until James got his "result".

You would have gotten a "Cop" role, or you would know he's lying, since that was his claim.

I wanted to check someone I was unsure of. I mean it'd either prove you town or mafia which would either stop me from looking at you suspiciously or confirm you for the SR I had D1. That and out of all the people alive, I deduced you'd be likely to survive. I mean why not, you're scummy enough and not really on the lynch radar. I wanted to know your role so if you noticed I didn't really push you at all D2. Because I was waiting for my results to come back on you.

You'd have to ask yourself, why wouldn't I pick someone else to check to help town progress?

What results could you get that would tell you the persons alignment?

[TTTT]

oh well, then no reason to delay, i'm jailkeeper and jailed Havingfitz N1, timeshifted to N2

@James
what do you make of Ram saying he doesn't believe your claim
yet he isn't voting you?

That's a perfectly reasonable stance for him to take given our history.

are you saying you have a history of fake-claiming guilties when you are town?
otherwise
how is it "perfectly reasonable" for him to think you are lying but not be voting for you?

[PeregrineV]

Except you are also non-consecutive, and if you used one last night, you can't use the other tonight.

Right?

Does it matter? I already shot a DELAYED shot last night, so it resolves tonight regardless. If the redirector is timeshifted (and I think he is) he will redirect my shot unto me or Comm and his teammates will shoot the other.

Because you keep changing your story. Unless the RE-DIRECTOR redirected you last night, they could not have affected your DELAYED shot, which would be a NORMAL shot, because all actions are timeshifted.

So, really, you sound like you are faking it.

And 3316.

[Vifam]

PV walk me through your convo with Almost what is weird about his claim

[Tywin Lannister]

I agree with Vifam here shockingly. What are you getting at with Almost's claim?

[Ramcius]

oh well, then no reason to delay, i'm jailkeeper and jailed Havingfitz N1, timeshifted to N2

@James
what do you make of Ram saying he doesn't believe your claim
yet he isn't voting you?

That's a perfectly reasonable stance for him to take given our history.

are you saying you have a history of fake-claiming guilties when you are town?
otherwise
how is it "perfectly reasonable" for him to think you are lying but not be voting for you?

cause he have history of fakeclaiming as any alignment, faking guilty and sticking to it for so long shows Comm pinged him really hard, if James is a town, tbh from scum!James i would expect changed claim long ago, but you never know with him, so his lynch i see as a PL

[Vifam]

If James is town fuck him anyway

[TTTT]

uh yeah players with a history of fake-claiming guilties as town should be a policy lynch

every
single
time

VOTE: J
VOTE: A
VOTE: M
VOTE: E
VOTE: S

[PeregrineV]

Spoiler: Almost50 enters and said he did not read the game. Given past games with him as town, I do not beleive he shoots blindly

1. Comm could be a scum rolecop

2. Comm could have taken a guess that there was a vig out there

3. You could be his buddy.

Whatever the case, he's still scum.

I should've shot you just to rid us all of your annoyance, but I assumed Scum would do it for us! *Sigh*

So, how come nobody asked whom I shot?? It's not like I'm going to tell, but still.. how come nobody cares?

Because based on your opening post where you didn't even read the game, that means either you are lying, or you shot randomly. Since shooting randomly doesn't seem your style, I really don't think you are the vig.

@Comm:

No, and Yes (let's confirm someone, but let's NOT expose their role).

I'll be honest: I haven't exactly “read” anything yet. I just took a quick glance on the jest of it. I do not plan on doing a “proper” full read either; meaning I won't be reading the whole thing post by post and word by word (You guys have broken the record for shit posting %age). I may read some sections thoroughly, but only if I'm prompted to (or feel the need to). This also has to do with the number of replacements that occurred that it's going to cause me a real headache if I tried to track each slot to it's original occupier and their successor(s)). I intend to keep up starting D3 though.

Any questions/remarks?

Now why is Vifam still alive?? Tywin needs to step up as a Town leader and get this lynch over with. James needs to step DOWN his high heels and get in the mix. Nero needs to open his eyes and actually "do a Nero" (I know you CAN). Too bad RC replaced out. I could have worked with him, but Yume is fine too.

There is still a 50% player base that I have never played with before (at least not with these usernames) so it might take us a while to get acquainted, but let's first show respect to each other and try to work with each other.

Spoiler: Talks about how RadiantCowbells could be the NK becasue he could be the Vig

In my mind it had to do with him being the preferred NK target for a number of payers, so he was partially saving the SLOT from being NK'd.

there are only two killing roles as far as I know. If we assume RC is town why would either mafia or the SK EVER shoot at that big piece of mislynch bait?

1- Because it was RC, and you and I both know how hard it is to get him lynched.
2- Because they don't know what ROLE he had. For all we know he could be the

Vigilante (he did recommend a Vig shot on you, but he left before it was time for him to submit the action).

If I' ever Scum (of any alignment) in a game with RC, I do NOT want him alive by D2. EVER. I would probably shoot him over anyone else in the game.

Spoiler: Another metion of Vig, who may have shot SSBM

Also, scum could have targeted ssbm night 1

Why would Scum target ssbm on N1 AND let him get lynched on D2?? That's a wasted shot. Besides, why ssbm in the first place? Again, why him over TWO Cop claims (one of which must be Town)?

Also, where is the SK kill for N2 then?

Maybe they didn't want him lynched?

Maybe it was docced, blocked, or otherwise interfered with.

1- If they didn't want him lynched they could've easily stopped the lynch. There were 16 players alive and 9 for the lynch. 2 slot were not available and ssbm himself wasn't voting himself, so are you saying ALL ACTIVE TOWN PLAYERS collaborated to mislynch him?

2-

It could not have been, because that means the Watcher was no the Mafia kill, which in turn means we have a Serial Killer or a Vigilante

. Now WHERE are their kills on N2? And besides, that would be the most unlucky Mafia team in the history of the game, failing to kill on the opening 2 nights, and the luckiest own team ever to avoid 2 Mafia kills and 1 SK kill in 2 successive nights.

Spoiler: Claimed non-consecutive, but is now going to use a shot tonight after shooting last night

Alright, I actually lied about my shots. Erm.. ONE is delayed... the other is Normal. That's why I had to ask the mods about the difference. I used the delayed shot and have the other one to use tonight.

P-edit:

Yes, Scum Role Cops are a thing, but so are Scum Goons faking a PR to get a TPR lynched.

Seriously though, Framers are also a "thing", and so are redirectors. Those things are called ROLES, along with many others that are often seen in Mafia games. Ever tried to play Mafia before?? It's a WONDERFUL game, but it requires a thing or two you seem to be lacking. I'll let you figure what those are.

Except you are also non-consecutive, and if you used one last night, you can't use the other tonight.

Right?

Spoiler: The claim(s)

Ok, F-this! I AM IT! I AM THE FRIGGIN' VIG!! Alright??
I'm 2-shots, both delayed and can't shoot on consecutive nights. I fired once last night so I can only fire again on N4. My predecessor apparently wasn't even playing so he left me the 2 shots intact.

Everybody happy now?? Now let's move on. COMM IS TELLING THE TRUTH, Goddammit!

Btw, my Role PM calls them "Normal" and I had to check with the mod as to what it meant bc I thought "timeshifted" was the term for the delayed shot. If that helps verify my claim to you at all!

Except you are also non-consecutive, and if you used one last night, you can't use the other tonight.

Right?

Does it matter? I already shot a DELAYED shot last night, so it resolves tonight regardless. If the redirector is timeshifted (and I think he is) he will redirect my shot unto me or Comm and his teammates will shoot the other.

Spoiler: More of the same- All actions/results are timeshifted. This does not match previous claims of non-consecutive, and unless "The Vig" was redirected the night he shot, the shot should go through

Except you are also non-consecutive, and if you used one last night, you can't use the other tonight.

Right?

Does it matter? I already shot a DELAYED shot last night, so it resolves tonight regardless. If the redirector is timeshifted (and I think he is) he will redirect my shot unto me or Comm and his teammates will shoot the other.

Because you keep changing your story. Unless the RE-DIRECTOR redirected you last night, they could not have affected your DELAYED shot, which would be a NORMAL shot, because all actions are timeshifted.

So, really, you sound like you are faking it.

And 3316.

Sure, here you go.

[D3f3nd3r]

VC 3.3 (2/23/17)

CommKnight [L-7]

James3

TTTT [L-8]

Ramcius [L-7]

Almost50

Yume [L-8]

SlySly [L-8]

Havingfitz [L-8]

Vifam [L-7]

Ramcius

Nero Cain [L-8]

PeregrineV [L-8]

Elena Fisher [L-8]

TheFuzzylogic99 [L-8]

James3 [L-3]

CommKnight, Elena Fisher, TTTT, Vifam, Nero Cain

Almost50 [L-8]

Tywin Lannister [L-8]

XnadrojX [L-8]

No Lynch [L-8]

Not Voting [7]

Yume, SlySly, TheFuzzylogic99, Tywin Lannister, XnadrojX, Havingfitz, PeregrineV

Deadline is 3:30pm on Tuesday March 7th, in (expired on 2017-03-07 15:30:00).

With 15 alive, it is eight to lynch.

V/LAs:
None.

[Ramcius]

uh yeah players with a history of fake-claiming guilties as town should be a policy lynch

every
single
time

VOTE: J
VOTE: A
VOTE: M
VOTE: E
VOTE: S

well, James could answer himself if he done fake guilty as a town, but i saw him pushing redirector (3p role in ToS) to claim on D1, when James was SK and fakeclaimed vig