Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

Vifam · Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:53 am

In post 3423, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3420, Vifam wrote:Because James literally claimed Mafia if he's town fuck it then whatever none of this is our fault
No. That's not how you win the game. "Fuck it" is not scumhunting.

Nah Im not with that im sorry you don't get to be completely antitown and useless the whole game, selfvote, claim mafia and get to live. That's ridiculous

PeregrineV · Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:54 am

In post 3422, Vifam wrote:Plus Comm feels more town than him in the first place and James has been a complete anti-town entity all game so

Yes, this I agree with.

However, we now have additional information that we have to use in addition to feels and stuff.

At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.

Otherwise, as a logic puzzle, James is only 2nd best choice.

Vifam · Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:54 am

If he's town then that's completely on him idc

PeregrineV · Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:56 am

In post 3425, Vifam wrote:
In post 3423, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3420, Vifam wrote:Because James literally claimed Mafia if he's town fuck it then whatever none of this is our fault
No. That's not how you win the game. "Fuck it" is not scumhunting.
Nah Im not with that im sorry you don't get to be completely antitown and useless the whole game, selfvote, claim mafia and get to live. That's ridiculous

Day1, fine. Day3, not using information is anti-town.

Besides, Almost already shot him last night, probably.

Vifam · Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:57 am

Yeah Yume avoiding the thread is bad also

PeregrineV · Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:57 am

In post 3427, Vifam wrote:If he's town then that's completely on him idc

This isn't "punish the player", this is "make your team win". Post-game, please spend a full page or 2 tearing him a new one.

Vifam · Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:00 am

I see what you're saying but it''s honestly more likely he's scum anyway

Vifam · Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:01 am

At this point Comm being scum takes too many wild theories

havingfitz · Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:04 am

In post 3426, PeregrineV wrote:At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.

We're staying away from claims? Why?
We have a 1v1...a scum admission....so.....huh?

I'd be up for Yuma after James given my previous RC suspicions. Plus Yume (who I know not) avoiding/ignoring the game.

PeregrineV · Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:05 am

In post 3432, Vifam wrote:At this point Comm being scum takes too many wild theories

Not really.

Comm the scum rolecop claims to target Fitz, targets someone else, gives a fake result, and now knows three roles in a single night, their target, the vig who claimed, and Fitz who claimed.

That's the simplest assumption, nothing wild about it.

And bonus is Ram who claimed.

Vifam · Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:07 am

Were not lynching Comm I really dont wanna entertain the thought im sorry

PeregrineV · Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:07 am

In post 3433, havingfitz wrote:
In post 3426, PeregrineV wrote:At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.
We're staying away from claims? Why?
We have a 1v1...a scum admission....so.....huh?

I'd be up for Yuma after James given my previous RC suspicions. Plus Yume (who I know not) avoiding/ignoring the game.

Because if someone claimed that I was not my role, I would think they are scum and want them dead.

If I was VT being accused of being a PR, I would say "got me" and take the bullet for the real PR.

You did neither. Which I find SUPER fishy.

Vifam · Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:07 am

Im gonna lynch the guy who just claimed mafia then disappeared after selfvoting

Ramcius · Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:09 am

In post 3434, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3432, Vifam wrote:At this point Comm being scum takes too many wild theories
Not really.

Comm the scum rolecop claims to target Fitz, targets someone else, gives a fake result, and now knows three roles in a single night, their target, the vig who claimed, and Fitz who claimed.

That's the simplest assumption, nothing wild about it.

And bonus is Ram who claimed.

only thing pinging me here, why counter me on Fitz? I was demanding him reveal target and role, so he could name someone else and let Fitz eat bullet as caught mafia killer

PeregrineV · Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:11 am

In post 3435, Vifam wrote:Were not lynching Comm I really dont wanna entertain the thought im sorry

You don't have to vote him, but if he flips scum, it makes you look bad.

Vifam · Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:13 am

I really don't think he's gonna flip scum

Vifam · Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:14 am

99% sure he's town

PeregrineV · Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:14 am

In post 3438, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3434, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3432, Vifam wrote:At this point Comm being scum takes too many wild theories
Not really.

Comm the scum rolecop claims to target Fitz, targets someone else, gives a fake result, and now knows three roles in a single night, their target, the vig who claimed, and Fitz who claimed.

That's the simplest assumption, nothing wild about it.

And bonus is Ram who claimed.
only thing pinging me here, why counter me on Fitz? I was demanding him reveal target and role, so he could name someone else and let Fitz eat bullet as caught mafia killer

If Fitz were Comm's buddy, then Comm could be trying to cover for Fitz. Even is Comm flips Scum Rolecop, we could believe he is telling truth on Fitz. See 3436.

PeregrineV · Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:15 am

In post 3440, Vifam wrote:I really don't think he's gonna flip scum

In post 3441, Vifam wrote:99% sure he's town

Maybe. That's why if we are not doing logic, then let's get rid of people we will never be able to get a read on because they never post. Or make them post.

Vifam · Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:18 am

I think it's logical to lynch the guy claiming scum

Comm's play doesn't really make sense from a scum perspective

Comm isn't gonna claim D1 then go on to say he got the wrong result on Fitz

Like that's some shit you really gotta plan out

If he planned it all out good for him I guess he probably deserves to win

PeregrineV · Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:22 am

In post 3444, Vifam wrote:I think it's logical to lynch the guy claiming scum

Yeah, cause town never do stupid shit.

In post 3444, Vifam wrote: Comm's play doesn't really make sense from a scum perspective

I mostly agree.

In post 3444, Vifam wrote:Comm isn't gonna claim D1 then go on to say he got the wrong result on Fitz

No, as town he shoudl not.

Like that's some shit you really gotta plan out

If he planned it all out good for him I guess he probably deserves to win

Yes, and no. I don't care how well they planned it out, I still want to win.

Ramcius · Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:24 am

In post 3444, Vifam wrote:I think it's logical to lynch the guy claiming scum

Comm's play doesn't really make sense from a scum perspective

Comm isn't gonna claim D1 then go on to say he got the wrong result on Fitz

Like that's some shit you really gotta plan out

If he planned it all out good for him I guess he probably deserves to win

Thing is, he claimed Fitz after me, which raises red flags there, so either they both scum and Comm tried save Fitz, or they both town and we dealing only with mafia, but no sk in this game

havingfitz · Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:30 am

In post 3436, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3433, havingfitz wrote:
In post 3426, PeregrineV wrote:At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.
We're staying away from claims? Why?
We have a 1v1...a scum admission....so.....huh?

I'd be up for Yuma after James given my previous RC suspicions. Plus Yume (who I know not) avoiding/ignoring the game.
1) Because if someone claimed that I was not my role, I would think they are scum and want them dead.

2) If I was VT being accused of being a PR, I would say "got me" and take the bullet for the real PR.

You did neither. Which I find SUPER fishy.

1 - which I did evidenced my immediate vote on Comm. That has been retracted due to further consideration. Supported by subsequent claims and stuff.

2 - OBE due to point 1 but also...I'm not you. I'm not complex enough to support a falsehood as town. Plus if I had the real vig might have still claimed and/or Comm would still be suspect.

Do you think James is scum?

havingfitz · Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:34 am

In post 3400, havingfitz wrote:
In post 3393, Ramcius wrote:my jk on you takes effect N3, my night actions are delayed, at least i assume so, since there nothing in my pm about my night actions not being delayed, that means my block on Fitz took effect N2, so posible i blocked N1 delayed NK from mafia team, you are safe for tonight and rb on you have no effect, you couldn't use your ability anyway, if you say true about being non consec.
With redirector in play i had no reason block you
, especially night you can't use your ability. Bus driver i don't believe, why swap Fitz and Zekro? Anyway, at this point you as good as VT till redirector alive
You had no idea a Redirector or bus driver was in play N2.

^^^

How could you support a N2 decision with speculation not brought up until D3??

PeregrineV · Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:42 am

In post 3447, havingfitz wrote:
In post 3436, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3433, havingfitz wrote:
In post 3426, PeregrineV wrote:At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.
We're staying away from claims? Why?
We have a 1v1...a scum admission....so.....huh?

I'd be up for Yuma after James given my previous RC suspicions. Plus Yume (who I know not) avoiding/ignoring the game.
1) Because if someone claimed that I was not my role, I would think they are scum and want them dead.

2) If I was VT being accused of being a PR, I would say "got me" and take the bullet for the real PR.

You did neither. Which I find SUPER fishy.
1 - which I did evidenced my immediate vote on Comm. That has been retracted due to further consideration. Supported by subsequent claims and stuff.

2 - OBE due to point 1 but also...I'm not you. I'm not complex enough to support a falsehood as town. Plus if I had the real vig might have still claimed and/or Comm would still be suspect.

Do you think James is scum?

1. I saw that in 3113, 3119, 3127. Still, you seemed convinced at a speed that surprised me.

2. There's nothing complex about VTs taking hits for Town. That's basic town play.
Maybe the vig claims and maybe they don't.
No one seems to suspect Comm except me.

I think James is probably town. I'd be surprised if he's a cop, but if he is scum, then day1 would be some hard James bussing for some bonus town credit/revenge for crap play.