Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Caesar Wills It]

Of course not. Your Emperor is far too clever to be taken in by such a rudimentary trick. However, as We are a magnanimous ruler, We were compelled to 'play along' with your tomfoolery, and for that We are displeased with you. What evidence have you of your loyalty to Us? We have had difficulty ascertaining this thus far.

[Alisae]

While the senate does have trouble explaining why they are willing to work with Your Majesty, the senate does not have the burden of proof to prove that Your Majesty should trust them. It is the responsibility of the senate to expel traitors and barbarians from the state.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Anyone up for another game of Hangman?

[Alisae]

I don't wanna right now -_-

[Caesar Wills It]

Then Caesar remains unconvinced, though He acknowledges that a traitor would almost certainly have taken such an opportunity to try gaining Our confidence.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don't wanna right now -_-

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm just kind of feeling defeated from ABR flipping town. I don't really know where to go from here.

[Alisae]

LUV I have a theory that Dave and Creature are on a scumteam together. Creature overall has been scummy and I think they're scum so you should vote them considering they said some really wierd things I just don't see town saying.

[Caesar Wills It]

We find this lack of faith from Senator Lil Uzi Vert disturbing. It reminds Us of some oddities We observed from him at the end of the previous session. We shall be investigating these oddities and shall present Our findings to the Senate forthwith.

Senator Alisae, We are quite certain of the loyalty of Senator Creature. Desist with your spurious allegations.

[Elbirn]

I feel like shamelessly OMGUSing Vecna.
-Nebby

Why don't you?

Btw your avy is really cute, what animoo is that?

[Alisae]

This is partly why I think Dave is distancing himself from Creature

Don't give me "activity"

Creature is actively trying to change that meta of his.

Activity was my previous townread on you, though activity isn't AI anymore for you.

This is misdirection. Fro99er's comment is about

Creature's meta

. Creature's response is about

his Fro99er read

.

A quick scan of Creature's ISO shows lots of

opinions

but next to no

reasons

.
VOTE: Creature
This is scum. I can't tell if he's scum with Yuri trying to derail, or just scum who got caught in a horrible opinion shift.

My vote may still be for hire to complete the Yuri wagon, after I analyze that slot to find out if it's really scum or not.

I continue to think Creature could be scum trying to act town, but it might just be a playstyle thing. I'm willing to listen to townreads for now.
UNVOTE:

Dave has an okay push on Creature, but when he unvotes, he postures around the Creature slot and overall just jumps off of it for a really bad reason.

I also think about him attacking me for not putting ABR at L-1, the questions he was asking me there just sorta seem like they were dead ends and really vague and not really going anywhere.
This is the dave part to Creature and Dave being on the same team.

[Alisae]

I feel like shamelessly OMGUSing Vecna.
-Nebby

Why don't you?

Btw your avy is really cute, what animoo is that?

Because I think Creature and/or Dave are more likely to flip scum and the anime is Space Patrol Luluco

[Elbirn]

UNVOTE:
Hi, catching up.
Also last time I checked Elbrin looked really frustrated in my responses and I honestly have no idea what to make of it.
-Nebby

Elbrin why did I scumread you again?
I genuinely don't remember.
Cuz that looks like townposting.
-Nebby

This is where I'm at with reads btw.
AMA.
{PV, Nero, nancy, BaeReed, You, Elbrin,Brian}
{Ceasar, Yuri, Sondam, Maxous, Dave, LUV, Leon}
{ABR, Vecna, Creature, SSBM}
-Nebby

^ I also really want to know what's up with this. You flop off of me after making your massive case that I had to diarrhea all over, like I'm now among your top townreads? Why?

[Elbirn]

I feel like shamelessly OMGUSing Vecna.
-Nebby

Why don't you?

Btw your avy is really cute, what animoo is that?

Because I think Creature and/or Dave are more likely to flip scum and the anime is Space Patrol Luluco

They are both really very bland and I think little of them. Where does your confidence come from, midude?

(ty for anime deets i'll look into the thing)
(more off topic crap I'm finally on a computer and not on my phone and it feels gr8)

[Elbirn]

Anyways I guess this resolution is another overwhelmingly obvious NAY seeing how we havent managed to murder scum.

If there were 5 starting scum, they go from 5 potential wonder uses to 8.
If there were 4 starting scum, they go from 4 potential wonde uses to 6
If there were 4 and they just killed their own treestump, they go from 3 wonder uses to 4.

And this doesnt even take into account they will get to deny more wonders to town, AND they can just load up defensive passives on the guy using their factional kill.

...I don't understand, why is their potential wonder usage not (2*WonderUsage) - 1?

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Okay, do you think JaeReed is posting frequently enough? I'm still missing this hydra from discussion.

I'm on V/LA for melbmeet, but been kinda disconnected since I realized vecna is likely just town.

idk, I've lurked at Mini 1849 too, I don't lurk only as scum. It's just disinterest.

^ Something like this, Creature. I fell off in activity in Shadowrun too when I didn't have a clear direction I was having good feelings about to take. Also in Banana Split, and I was out of it due to rl busy stuff in the beginning of Typhon too. Been a mix of RL and not having confidence in my scumreads.

[Alisae]

^ I also really want to know what's up with this. You flop off of me after making your massive case that I had to diarrhea all over, like I'm now among your top townreads? Why?

Because the way you responded to my case and the frustration just sorta seems towny.
Also your stance around ABR was also towny and made sense and made me question why I didn't listen to Elbrin. You're probably town for defending that as well.

As for the Dave/Creature thing, what do you think of 7110?

[Elbirn]

The posts closely before and after that one were reason for me to question my read, but that post i quoted was the main reason since it isbt the way scum reason

Again....As if I were five. Which posts. Why aren't they the way scum reason.

I'm still on page 261

What should I be doing help me

I saw pv ask me about a&n flip their read on me, tldr I'm looking at that funny but I don't see scum alisae backing off like that

I asked vecna about something I think but didn't see it answered

Abr being run up when he's not even here is kinda sus

Taa Taa for now it's time for class to start

Btw I need to replace out but I can't because 30 people already did, who didn't even need to, so thanks for that

Vecna get thine ass over here forthwith
Explain your Notice read

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Then Caesar remains unconvinced, though He acknowledges that a traitor would almost certainly have taken such an opportunity to try gaining Our confidence.

I don't think Alibae is a traitor to the state. I am willing to stake my own reputation on this. I don't think I've read Alibae wrong to date and something very important has been brought to my attention that gives me no reason to doubt my hard townread.

[Alisae]

Hold on let me do newer reads
{nancy, BaeReed, Elbrin, Brian, Math}
{Kyouko}
{LUV, Yuri, Caesar, Sondam, Maxous, Nero}
{Vecna}
{Dave, Creature}

[Alisae]

Oh yeah I forgot Leon.
Knew I was forgetting somenoe. Yeah he's town with Math and those nerds.

[Elbirn]

This is partly why I think Dave is distancing himself from Creature

Don't give me "activity"

Creature is actively trying to change that meta of his.

Activity was my previous townread on you, though activity isn't AI anymore for you.

This is misdirection. Fro99er's comment is about

Creature's meta

. Creature's response is about

his Fro99er read

.

A quick scan of Creature's ISO shows lots of

opinions

but next to no

reasons

.
VOTE: Creature
This is scum. I can't tell if he's scum with Yuri trying to derail, or just scum who got caught in a horrible opinion shift.

My vote may still be for hire to complete the Yuri wagon, after I analyze that slot to find out if it's really scum or not.

I continue to think Creature could be scum trying to act town, but it might just be a playstyle thing. I'm willing to listen to townreads for now.
UNVOTE:

Dave has an okay push on Creature, but when he unvotes, he postures around the Creature slot and overall just jumps off of it for a really bad reason.

I also think about him attacking me for not putting ABR at L-1, the questions he was asking me there just sorta seem like they were dead ends and really vague and not really going anywhere.
This is the dave part to Creature and Dave being on the same team.

Uhh...I mean his initial vote is some pedantic I don't know what that doesn't make any sense to me but his jump off is pretty bad, yeah.

Preflip team theories are cancer though

Speaking of which did you know that LUV and Vecna are scum together? Let's do it up

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

[Alisae]

Speaking of which did you know that LUV and Vecna are scum together? Let's do it up

Show your work!

[Elbirn]

Nah I wanna go play real Civ, Australia just came out for Civ VI



actually you know what it's not real I lied to you just now because it was a joke

But for real though I do have scumvibes on both of them, not necessarily together

[Alisae]

The only reason why I stopped TRing LUV is because of what they said about better wonders later on and conspriacy theories that are probably not true. I'm most likely getting paranoid about them currently so they're probably town.