Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

[Not Chara]

i finally understand the miscommunication re: Ram apparently using the redirector to guide his decision-making on night 2, when this knowledge shouldn't be there. essentially, there's no contradiction.

pedit: simplicity says they can't timeshift every night.

[Almost50]

pedit: simplicity says they can't timeshift every night.

Agreed. The question is: If PV was a delayed shot from N2, did they use a normal shot on N3 or not at all? It could be that they had only one timeshifted kill all game with all other kills being normal, or it could be that they have them in an alternating manner, or it could be that they've been given a "night off" after 2 shots, or .... ???

[Almost50]

So, just read my role PM carefully when I flip so as not to get confused. I think you will understand what I'm hinting once you do read it.

[Ramcius]

i don't believe scum team gets more than 1 not delayed kill, assuming in previous games only sk had it, and it was just 1 for all game

also, if mafia kill you, A50, before me, i will have good laugh at them

[Not Chara]

don't worry, i'll pay attention Almost. :>

[Almost50]

They actually have a bit of a predicament choosing between you, me & Comm. I don't envy them at this time tbh.

[Almost50]

^@Ram^

[CommKnight]

And assuming we're right. We get another mafia either today or tomorrow. They gotta be feeling the pressure now.

[SlySly]

Vifam and SlySly being scum
would be some serious bussing on James.

Gawd, I was hoping no one would notice. I tried to be subtle about it.

[Ramcius]

Vifam and SlySly being scum
would be some serious bussing on James.

Gawd, I was hoping no one would notice. I tried to be subtle about it.

if your only defense is sarcasm, then you in big trouble

[Not Chara]

that wasn't really a defense, fitz was calling Sly town.

[Ramcius]

that wasn't really a defense, fitz was calling Sly town.

nah

Therefore:

Solid town: Comm, A50, Not Chara
Likely town pending stuff: Ramicus
Suspect in most to least order: SlySly, Elena, Xnadro, Fuzzy, Tywin
Voting: Vifam

VOTE: Vifam

P.edit several posts not read.

according to this Sly is second on Fitz list right after Wifam for getting rope today

[Not Chara]

i missed the context of the original post, you're right. right after he says that, fitz says it's entirely possible James was being bussed.

[Tywin Lannister]

Can anyone explain why I...as sk....which I'm not btw...would target any of the nk victims over a JK/RB who has been shading/annoying me the entire time I've been in the game?

Look, I'm NOT FoS'ing you, but your avatar is annoying to me. It always gives me the impression I'm talking to an inmate bully!!

The question is to anyone claiming I'm sk....ex Ramcius and Tywin.

I called you SK for a couple of reasons, most of which are now null since Almost confirmed to be the one to NK two people today (so no SK kill):

1. There was no NK last night phase, and Ram specifically jailed you. That led me to believe you couldn't SK kill anyone based on the jailkeep.

2. A Redirecter went onto Almost, so Comm's result went there regardless of checking you. In that case, you were still jailkept by Ram, and again, no NKs yesterday.

3. You scum read Comm even after Almost confirmed being the vig. It looked off, because regardless that you weren't the vig, lynching comm after the Almost claim would've been anti-town.

So technically, you could still be scum that was blocked by Ram leading to no scum NK, but you can't be the SK because Almost confirmed he shot two people today. He confirmed that after I posted my thought about you being SK. Scum is still a possibility though.

[Elena Fisher]

i was thinking, what chances that there are no redirector? Fitz is real vig, A50 admitted he fakeclaimed anyway, so maybe we should put last mafia (Fuzzy) out of his misery today?

That doesn't add up to why Fitz would hang comm out to dry like that though. Comm was a legit lynch candidate until Almost confirmed he's the vigi, and Fitz was scum reading comm too. That makes no sense whatsoever in the context of how it played out.

IMO, Fitz is probably the SK, almost is the real vigi, and fuzzy is still scum regardless. 3 NKs pretty much confirms both a vigi and an SK, so it also confirms Comm/Almost. The only other option is if comm was a Mafia rolecop, but it makes no sense for James to vs him then. It would take a hell of a lot of scum theater to pull off what they did if both were scum buddies, so I don't really see it.

Also, I don't like Elena's vote. It's trash reasoning, and when questioned, her only response was 'I already gave my reason' and 'his ISO looks funny.' It's complete garbage reasoning, and she's ignoring the JK claim on purpose. Only scum (or SK I guess) would want to lynch a JK claim when there are so many lurkers and completely useless players hiding out and prod dodging every couple of days. Elena is one of them actually. I can't name a single thing that Elena has done since replacing in, and voting a JK claim that ADMITTED to jailing Comm last night is ridiculously stupid. All Comm needs to do is confirm or deny getting a result, and it confirms that Ram is either really a JK or he's a Mafia roleblocker. Those are the only two options, and I can't think of any reason why a Mafia roleblocker would admit to blocking a cop for no reason at all.

So yeah, I'm calling BS on scum Elena.

VOTE: Elena

@Elena: Please explain

I don't really care about what someone claims you should always vote on if you find someone scummy not what role they have that just gives mafia more wiggle room. So what if we have lurkers they can be sorted out later plus lynching lurkers gives almost 0 info what so ever so your logic is invalid on that. "Why would he admit to blocking him" you just answered your own question. You calling me a lurker is laughable just because I don't post 24/7 and have other games aswell doesn't make me a lurker I've been solving the game quite well I got the obv scum on replacing in and I'm doing it again.

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner

[Elena Fisher]

Vifam and Chara are town still
Fuzzy can be scum
Tywin is in the sort/learn town slot

[Elena Fisher]

XnadrojX
TheFuzzylogic99
SlySly
Havingfitz
Ramcius
are the only people that can be lynched today at least 2 scum in this

[Ramcius]

VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner

to get support, bring arguments, not some vague accusations, and your reads are awful

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner

to get support, bring arguments, not some vague accusations, and your reads are awful

Strange cause my reads have mostly been on point so far.

[Elena Fisher]

Even if I did build the best case in mafiascum history on you people would let you live cause you're a JK and they can't survive without it!

[Ramcius]

VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner

to get support, bring arguments, not some vague accusations, and your reads are awful

Strange cause my reads have mostly been on point so far.

hm, James was asking for rope since start of game, NC wasn't on your scum list, that you admitted after saw him flip red, so what reads we talking about on point? Calling people TR is easy, townies much more than scums, and some are much easier to spot, so i don't consider that a reads

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner

to get support, bring arguments, not some vague accusations, and your reads are awful

Strange cause my reads have mostly been on point so far.

hm, James was asking for rope since start of game, NC wasn't on your scum list, that you admitted after saw him flip red, so what reads we talking about on point? Calling people TR is easy, townies much more than scums, and some are much easier to spot, so i don't consider that a reads

Hm I still had James unlike some people here him asking for rope doesn't change that yes I didn't sr Nero but I was right on the town flips you say it's "easy" but easy or not I was still right if you don't call it reads that's a personal problem.

[Ramcius]

VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner

to get support, bring arguments, not some vague accusations, and your reads are awful

Strange cause my reads have mostly been on point so far.

hm, James was asking for rope since start of game, NC wasn't on your scum list, that you admitted after saw him flip red, so what reads we talking about on point? Calling people TR is easy, townies much more than scums, and some are much easier to spot, so i don't consider that a reads

Hm I still had James unlike some people here him asking for rope doesn't change that yes I didn't sr Nero but I was right on the town flips you say it's "easy" but easy or not I was still right if you don't call it reads that's a personal problem.

anyway, what you learned from James flip? And by telling your reads are bad i'm reffering to your SRs, since you scumreading me without good reason, and yet you have to prove your scumreads to be on target

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner

to get support, bring arguments, not some vague accusations, and your reads are awful

Strange cause my reads have mostly been on point so far.

hm, James was asking for rope since start of game, NC wasn't on your scum list, that you admitted after saw him flip red, so what reads we talking about on point? Calling people TR is easy, townies much more than scums, and some are much easier to spot, so i don't consider that a reads

Hm I still had James unlike some people here him asking for rope doesn't change that yes I didn't sr Nero but I was right on the town flips you say it's "easy" but easy or not I was still right if you don't call it reads that's a personal problem.

anyway, what you learned from James flip? And by telling your reads are bad i'm reffering to your SRs, since you scumreading me without good reason, and yet you have to prove your scumreads to be on target

I can see that from your pov so fair. I'd have to go back and look at James iso but I think the real part to look for is in Nero's Iso he clearly wasn't a lynch target so he felt safeish James could be a bit more troubling but what I learned is that I have a pool of sr's and I think if we lynch them we win if I get lynched aslong as my list is followed to some extent fine by me