Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 3.11

Caesar Wills It (3):

nancy, Creature, Brian Skies

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Sondam (2):

Vecna, Nero Cain

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Elbirn, Sondam

Brian Skies (2):

Leonshade, Lil Uzi Vert

Nero Cain (1):

MathBlade

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

CloudKicker

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, davesaz, Alisae

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Leonshade]

@nancy:

What made your TR on me change?

I haven't really ever been TRing you and posts like 7766 are why.

What do you find scummy about 7766?

Let's remember that Cloudie replaced into a slot that is probably town.

Disagreed.

VOTE: Brian

My prayers have been answered!

Careful, your colors are showing.

Shading.

VOTE: vecna

use your words.

Yup. Someone tell me why Kyouko was so town that we can't wagon this.

No town block can be formed at this point to be honest. Game is in such disarray.

I'm doing what I can to fix that. I have Aslan and Math as locktown. You,

Brian

, Creature,

CloudKicker

, Notice, Vecna, and Yuri are TRs who I am willing to work with to get Town into a better position. This is enough for the time being. I believe we can get a scumflip today, but we need to get our reads in order.

Anyone on the Sondam wagon, why is Sondam scum? I don't have a good read on the slot and I don't have a good metaread on MariaR. Treat me like I'm 5, please.

Anyone off the Sondam wagon, why is Sondam Town? Same as above.

There are flaws in your townblock. I've talked about my Sondam townread before, though I'm not as confident on it now as I was D1. Someone (Vecna?) made the good point that they're no longer interested in Math despite gerry seeming so convinced he'd caught a slip from the slot D1.

[nancy]

My townbloc is Aslan and Math. Not much of a townbloc. 7766 is scum because Brian as just Brian is lynchbait, that's the only context in which that lynch goes through, and you're pushing it. "Why can't we just wagon the scumcloud?" comes from Town 1 mislynch away from LyLo ummmm.. never.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

it's time for bed nancy

[Leonshade]

how do u feel about it?
looks like town Leon to me. do u think the push is trash? frustration over brian being passed over cause drixx seems genuine enough

D1 I thought you were RC, but now I know that isn't the case.

I feel like Leon is treating Brian like he was treating me in Spyro.
We were both scum together and the whole game he was distancing himself from me but he was also keeping other oppertunities open.
Like I feel like Leon told Brian in their scum PT after Brian hammered ABR "Hey, you're going to get some heat on you and I'm probably going to have to bus you."

What heat? If it wasn't for me, Brian would still be coasting by thanks to a residual Drixx TR. Hell, I'm pushing him and he's STILL coasting by thanks to a residual Drixx TR. So far today we've had LUV vote for him just now, and Vecna express suspicion on the TRs on Brian but not scumread the slot.

Why would Drixx saying that he wanted to go after pyramids but didn't or didn't win it affect your Skies read?

^

What's your read on Brian, Nero?

Yeah Drixx was obvTown so unless Brian scumclaims I don't want to vote there.

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Why would Drixx saying that he wanted to go after pyramids but didn't or didn't win it affect your Skies read?

Satisfaction cuz that's the only thing that's holding me back from voting that slot because it really seemed like an obvtown move to make.
Also Brian confirmed Drixx didn't get it btw.

Math what do you think of Brian hammering ABR?

NAI to me. That slot is Town purely because of Drixx. Brian's play is wholly unremarkable.

No, that slot is scummy and people are ignoring it because of their dumb TR on one Drixx post.

[Leonshade]

My townbloc is Aslan and Math. Not much of a townbloc. 7766 is scum because Brian as just Brian is lynchbait, that's the only context in which that lynch goes through, and you're pushing it. "Why can't we just wagon the scumcloud?" comes from Town 1 mislynch away from LyLo ummmm.. never.

You should reconsider if the reason you SR someone is just because they disagree with your reads.

How is Brian lynchbait when 80% of the playerbase TRs the slot? These inexplicable TRs are part of the reason I scumread the slot, I feel like at least some people have to be faking it.

There's 17 players in the game, we're two/three mislynches away from LYLO.

Brian and CloudKicker are my top two SRs here, yet Brian is being TR'd for bad reasons and having his play ignored otherwise, and CloudKicker is all of a sudden town for reasons I clearly missed? All day the top wagons have been either my TRs (Creature, LUV, Sondam) or slots that could go either way (Caesar). Meanwhile I see zero reason to TR either Brian or CloudKicker, yet people are calling the former town for stupid reasons and the latter is inexplicably town now?

How are we ever going to know whether Brian's actually scum instead of just lynchbait if we're never going to wagon the slot?

[CloudKicker]

yeah ok Alisae is actually town im putting that on my srs reads list

Math is town too. im gonna poe this shit i dont have any good scumreads. kyouko is one from forever ago

i scumread kyouko everygame its okay

[Leonshade]

Brian, Cloudkicker, both were on both mislynch wagons. I TR the rest of the players that were. You can go "scum want to avoid being on mislynches" but there's also scum that doesn't, I think at least one of these two is it.

[Leonshade]

yeah ok Alisae is actually town im putting that on my srs reads list

Math is town too. im gonna poe this shit i dont have any good scumreads. kyouko is one from forever ago

i scumread kyouko everygame its okay

Explain the Vecna vote.

[CloudKicker]

theres every often some mefias on and off every lynches @leon

[CloudKicker]

yeah ok Alisae is actually town im putting that on my srs reads list

Math is town too. im gonna poe this shit i dont have any good scumreads. kyouko is one from forever ago

i scumread kyouko everygame its okay

Explain the Vecna vote.

Can you just wait for the guy to ask him himself

[nancy]

How are we ever going to know whether Brian's actually scum instead of just lynchbait if we're never going to wagon the slot?

Yeah, no Town outside of a newbie has ever said this.

None of my reasons for SRing you have to do with your reads. And I don't believe your dumbtell about there being 17 players in the game. Try again.

[CloudKicker]

so far i dont like yuris and leons tone

[CloudKicker]

nancy looks as much as obvious town she did in our only mutual game outside this one

[Leonshade]

How are we ever going to know whether Brian's actually scum instead of just lynchbait if we're never going to wagon the slot?

Yeah, no Town outside of a newbie has ever said this.

None of my reasons for SRing you have to do with your reads. And I don't believe your dumbtell about there being

17 players

in the game. Try again.

The fuck? I scumread the slot, you say it's "lynchbait" with zero explanation as to why, I want to pressure because I disagree, "no town outside a newbie ever said this"?

Regarding the bolded:

Lynch Vote 3.11

Caesar Wills It (3):

nancy, Creature, Brian Skies

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Sondam (2):

Vecna, Nero Cain

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Elbirn, Sondam

Brian Skies (2):

Leonshade, Lil Uzi Vert

Nero Cain (1):

MathBlade

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

CloudKicker

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, davesaz, Alisae

With 17 players alive

, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

17 - 2 = 15, even with a vig shot we're still not in LYLO range.

[Leonshade]

Living (17)

:

Spoiler:

Alisae
Nero Cain
Yuri
MathBlade
Leonshade
Elbirn
Creature
Brian Skies
Caesar Wills It
Lil Uzi Vert
Vecna
CloudKicker
davesaz
Maxous
Sondam
NoticeMeSenpai
nancy

Just in case my point was not clear. There's 17 players here.

[MathBlade]

No town block can be formed at this point to be honest. Game is in such disarray.

I'm doing what I can to fix that. I have Aslan and Math as locktown. You, Brian, Creature, CloudKicker, Notice, Vecna, and Yuri are TRs who I am willing to work with to get Town into a better position. This is enough for the time being. I believe we can get a scumflip today, but we need to get our reads in order.

Anyone on the Sondam wagon, why is Sondam scum? I don't have a good read on the slot and I don't have a good metaread on MariaR. Treat me like I'm 5, please.

Anyone off the Sondam wagon, why is Sondam Town? Same as above.

Why do you townread Yuri and Vecna when their wagons just instantly collapsed?

My main problem with the wagons given is the reasoning is because and I find the people who hop on a reasonless wagon suspicious.

Could you do Nero with me? His list just looks like the common wagons and hard townread people to try to create apathy?

@nancy

[nancy]

I think you know what lynchbait is. Brian is clear-cut lynchbait. I don't have to explain this.

VOTE: Leonshade

Your dumbtelling is shit.

[MathBlade]

so far i dont like yuris and leons tone

Leon is a townread.
Wouldn't mind seeing more content out of Yuri and knowing why people's scumreads disappeared. If y'all make me look this up Saturday I am gonna be sad.

Same with Vecna scumreads.

It would be so much easier if y'all just said why your scumreads went away.

[Leonshade]

WHAT FUCKING DUMBTELLING?

I KNOW WHAT A LYNCHBAIT IT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING

[MathBlade]

@Leonshade it would be 17-3 one for lynch one for NK and one for vig would be 14 in worst case scenario.
Then that would be 8 to lynch and 5? scum remaining that would be one lynch removed from LyLO.

Like we need a scum today.

[CloudKicker]

Alisae, did you see that

[CloudKicker]

it was in its natural habitat

[MathBlade]

???

[Leonshade]

@Leonshade it would be 17-3 one for lynch one for NK and one for vig would be 14 in worst case scenario.
Then that would be 8 to lynch and 5? scum remaining that would be one lynch removed from LyLO.

Like we need a scum today.

Your math is correct, we're two mislynches away from LYLO assuming five scum, three assuming four. Playing with five scum in mind to be safe, we're still two mislynches off of LYLO.