Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MathBlade]

his role PM = Nero's role PM
Still townreading Alisae FYI

[MathBlade]

Now I'm going to bed. Still can't catch up on the thread damn it.

[Nero Cain]

You're just trying to save Caesar and it's quite sad.

Just like I was trying to save ABR or anyone else when I didn't join a wagon pushed by you and your sister.

[Nero Cain]

I'm a mason? sweeeet

[Nero Cain]

Nancy max is horse manure.

but FTR. I'm not really pushing a Nancy/Max group. I just think Spiff calling Max "disinterested" could be maybe scum buddies or scum that knows Max is town. IDK. Follow the evidence.

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 3.20

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, nancy, Leonshade, CloudKicker, MathBlade

davesaz (3):

Alisae, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, Sondam

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Nero Cain (1):

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Not Voting (3):

davesaz, Brian Skies, Vecna

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Nero Cain]

Nero and Alisae mason buddies is bad. :/

and this is scum faking a derptell. there's like no fucking way that Math believed that Alisae and I were masons though we

ARE

masons in spirit.

[nancy]

I'd rather cooperate with my townreads here or force a Nero lynch. Those are what I'd like. Caesar to me just isn't townfirm. I don't see thorough explanations I asked for on why Caesar believes what he does. It could be a stall tactic or genuinely busy but I don't see being able to interact with him to get a read. My townread says they are scum. So the first time in my life I'm sheeping. I don't like your cookie choice.

Nero's time will come, don't worry. Pine is semi-inactive site-wide at the moment, so we just have to wait. He's a good enough player to not need to rely on stalling tactics, he's a good enough player to express everything he needs to within the confines of his flavor, so for the time being we keep watch.

[Sondam]

Vote vecna. I will vote math too. but vecna has a better chance of being lynched today

~Gerry

[Nero Cain]

We aren't doing Math today regardless of how derpy and scummy they are.

[Nero Cain]

I want to flip Dave or LUV.

[Nero Cain]

Gin is ok....like him getting angry and hardcore defending Math and going "oh you are scum regardless of how you treat Math" is p horrible but noobie arrogance is a thing also I suspected Elbrin but he wasn't a huge huge scum read.

[Vecna]

I'm literally not scum reading him for anything outside of the game.

I'm not going to talk to scum Ali so don't bring up Hogwarts when the context is completely different.

Well LUV is town. :/

Damn I hate being unable to read you.
But so is Ali.

Hurrah. Only took 8600 posts

[Vecna]

i havent read u lol

DEO slot is scum and Vecna is scum. i just wanna get them lynched

~Gerry

Read my last post addressing you and stop being a damn detriment you clown.

Maria post more. Im not gonna have your slot slide by purely on gerry's gimmick so ill sort you based on your posts.

Get active

[Vecna]

Then let's sync up.
Talk with me about Vecna and Yuri.
And why do you read them the way you do?

I've talked about Vecna.
He pushed Titus to leave the game when she was one of his hard defenders (like if you'll remember she threatened me with a policy lynch when I first pushed him). It's something that he stood to gain very little from, because the potential town cred from that has to be pointed out by someone else for him to get anything out of it for one, and he got rid of his strongest supporter to be left with someone in the slot that he knew was scumreading him for another. Then you have the fact that the infighting in the hydra was clogging up the game and making for an environment where people really didn't want to be around/read so he could have more easily manipulated the lynches to where he wanted as scum because of it.
Like, there are points for doubt but they're not points I'm going to bring up in the main thread unless I decide it outweighs the fact that he would have to be shooting himself in the foot with how he tried to fix the hydra dissonance in your slot. It's not a smart move for scum at all.

Yuri is a bit of wagonomics and a bit of experience with the main. I'm not going to out who it is but the weird defending thing and such is not unusual given who it is. The wagonomics I need to double check on though because I think I misremembered it. D1 felt like a consensus wagon with no real counter though, and when the counter DID come about we know it was mainly ABR that pushed it yeah? Which means it wasn't a scum motivated counter. I do need to double check that but it's where I'm at with my thoughts currently.

um...did I do ok with the attempt btw or not really?

Im not sure i completely buy this reason to TR me either. I pushed on the DEO to choose between death/replace out/become a unified front. I had no idea at this point what the outcome would be. Framing it as me willingly getting rid of titus is very much in my favor, but not an accurate portrayal of events.

Im surprised noone actually has brought this up before. At any rate, it had to be done for the good of town and i was in a position to do so.

Let's explore those options then:
Death - Requires Titus and MathBlade to both live in a dysfunctional hydra for the rest of the day phase, continuing to fight and bloat the thread and potentially cause more people to replace out.
Replace Out - Math already said they refused to replace out again, so only Titus would be replacing out in this instance.
Become a Unified Front - This was obviously impossible with the state of things being how they were.

So yes, that is a valid reason to TR you. The only

real

option you gave Titus was to replace out for the good of the town. You can't seriously have not known that's how that would end?

Mustve missed the part where math said smthey deff wouldnt replace out

[Vecna]

Giiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin W@T R UR REEEEeeeeeEEEEEeeeeEEADZzzzzzzZZZZZzz

As of current I'm liking nancy at first glance. She's actively scum hunting and pushing shit/not afraid to get your hands dirty.

You, so far you've been cute and playful so it gives me a town lean on you because of the tell I told you I have on you.

I need to spend some time sorting through the Maxous/Senpai/Vecna arguments that were mentioned the first page I joined in.

For the rest of the playerlist I've forgotten they're in the game or they haven't talked enough for me to start forming interaction reads.

My main scum read is on Nero. He's pushing this case on Math, but he won't vote it, he's also pushing Math for a disproved reason and he can't actually answer a fucking question as to why scum!Math would claim a wonder promising her death. I caught him in his bullshit.

Oh and speaking of Math, by that claim I'm leaning town

So surprising that gin is actively mentioning me here but completely disregards the arguments i brought up a few pages before as to why hes likely scum.

More suspicion points. Vote incoming if theres no mention of it on the nect bunch of pages i still have to read

[Vecna]

I feel like the following are all town:

Ali
Creature
Gin
Leon
Mathblade
Max
PV
Vecna

This has been updated.

Why gin?

[Vecna]

Yeah im just gonna go back to the potential of a NOTICE + ELBIRN/GIN + potentially yuri scumteam here.

Elbirn trying to soft bus notice the way he did on day1 makes sense.

Gin ignored all my posts. In fact most of my posts that i posted 8-10 pages back got largely ignored.

VOTE: Gin n tonic

Also in before notice starts scumreading me again because i removed his reason for doing so

Also fine with voting notice actually. Wouldnt be surprised if alisae is also part of that team.

Alisae/notice/gin/yuri sounds just about right.

Looling forward to the ceasar reply.

Looking forward to people actually not ignoringbmy posts

Looking forward to the moment where people realize that all of the active posters are likely town (minus gin and maybe ali)

[Vecna]

Someone else do me the fsvor of looking up the day1 and day2 voting patterns of these people.

[Creature]

Oh no, pages to catch up

[Creature]

Is Gin scumhunting?

[Creature]

Why are players refusing to vote Caesar? It annoys me when a wagon stalls, it's better to have a quickwagon on town than slow wagons all the game.

[Creature]

Yeah, I could do Gin, but I think Caesar wagon is more promising.

[Creature]

Btw, hopefully nobody's thinking about lynching LUV.

[Creature]

Dave is also a good wagon, just not better than Caesar.