Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[CloudKicker]

VOTE: maxous nvm

[nancy]

Math you do realize that if you are not vigged in the next few days you are getting lynched, right?

Don't stress Pine.

I'm not lynching Caesar today.

VOTE: Nero

scum arent open about scum agenda nancy

Meaning?

[nancy]

Was there a reason why you juxtaposted two completed unrelated posts by me and Nero?

[Nero Cain]

Don't be daft. He's clearly talking about his belief that your vote makes no sense.

Also would you be so kind as to tell us why you suddenly don't want to lynch Caesar?

[nancy]

Your shtick is so tired, Nero.

[Nero Cain]

I like how all your current responses to me have been mindless rhetoric.

[Vecna]

they are saying that he's coasting but he's not even the worst coaster. (Dave is) and the one's in my living room are old and worn out.

Coasting and being lynchbait is standard Dave townplay. So much even that the fact he was actually posting before made me scumread him. Whether his resorting back to coasting is due to him falling back to his standard pattern or realizing my read was accurate for the right reasons....

[Vecna]

Trust me, Yuri is Town. The wagon on him Day 1 was mostly Town.

This is what a wagon on Town looks like:

Lynch Vote 1.30

Yuri (9): Lil Uzi Vert, Aslan, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, MathBlade, Nero Cain, Creature

beeboy (3): CloudKicker, PeregrineV, Yuri
Sondam (1): Drixx
Aslan (1): Albert B. Rampage
Vecna (1): Caesar Wills It
CloudKicker (1): Maxous
Fro99er (1): Leonshade
NoticeMeSenpai (1): TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Not Voting (3): davesaz, NoticeMeSenpai, Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.

I guarantee there's only 1 scum on Yuri. By PoE it's either LUV or Nero, and LUV is Town. Nero is scum. 1 of {davesaz, Notice, Sondam} (not voting) are scum: Notice. There'll be 1 scum on the 3-person wagon. Yuri is obvtown, CK is Town, so PV is likely scum. The rest of the scum are on the other wagons. ABR, Maxous, Leonshade, Vecna, Drixx and Yuri are all Town, which leaves: Caesar & Gin. This just basic pattern analysis and PoE by strength of reads.

How do you conclude that Yuri is town from this though?

[Vecna]

how come i was ignored when i first talked about notice and now its caught on

Because, me

[Vecna]

K Drixx is not town for attempting to play optimally early game, fucker's like sleeper scum dont give brian a pass just cause drixx didnt scumslip in his first few posts

Drixx is Town therefore Brian Skies is.
Scum don't say what Drixx said.

yeeees they can

[nancy]

If Yuri is scum then there would be counterwagons. Scum don't just sit around and let each other get lynched for free. The wagon construction tells the story completely. There are no competing wagons, despite beeboy having gathered several votes shortly before that, it's just Yuri and several vanities, plus a few no lynchers.

[nancy]

I said there'll only be 1 scum on the wagon but there could feasibly be as many as 3. 4 would be a stretch.

[Vecna]

Alisae brought up the point that it would be better to save the alignment because numbers and to add to that, with there being a higher percent chance of Math hitting a townie, if the player was mod confirmed D3 as town, that person would be killed the following night.

also just to clarify, the

plan

was to have the pyramids claim and Math would cop them but PV didn't claim for ???? so we'd still have that IC.

That's grody. That makes sense now from your side.

It's still a damn stretch, tell me still how, as scum it would be best to claim you should die?

I can see a Math/PV scumteam. PV grabbing the Pyramids and then refusing to claim gives Math an out to not be vigged. Killing PV in the night phase makes him look bad for not claiming. Meanwhile, distancing and an outright claim from Math gives Math a free ride to the end game where people can't question why he hasn't died for having his role.

1) I am a They.
2) Even if I get the scumteam right which I am either very good or very bad on scum won't kill me because of Stonehenge. This means I need to rely on Town seeing I am Town. In other words because Titus asked for a claim I have to play the exact opposite of the way I like while job hunting flu fighting band RL responsibilities.
3) I told Titus this and she insisted we have to die so us claiming would not achieve that purpose. She said syncing was impossible and after telling and screaming on Skype I just decided it was less toxic to let Titus have her way than have this continue. When she was wrong on Vecna Pyramids I tried damage control and she replaced out.

Specifically her reasoning was we trade our dysfunctional hydra in which Titus kept screaming Beeboy and ABR scum and any attempts to hunt got shut down with ABR and Caesar have to be the lynch. I townread Caesar at the time so ABR was the only option permissible. When ABR messed things up again I thought he was scum so I tunneled.

Now I realize I should lay back and not tunnel here for reasons mentioned before. The claim IMHO wasn't smart but Titus was begging me to replace out constantly and with how Thing Mafia went after I replaced out I just couldn't replace out again.

Ok, from here on out you are NO LONGER ALLOWED to use your hydra infighting as a reason as to why your town.

PROVE IT by getting proper reads and being usefull. Every 3rd post of you is reminiscing about the past and how awfull it was for you. Stop this now, we no longer care.

We had Titus replace out for a reason. You keeping yapping on about this is resulting in the opposite.

[nancy]

1 is just the more typical amount. Town tend to congregate, so with that many vanity wagons it points to there being fewer scum on the wagon.

[Vecna]

Oh yeah Sondam.
Yeah they can be locked town too.
That's 8 townreads.

Unsure:
Math, nancy, Yuri, Cloudie, Vecna, Gin, Leon.

Scum:
Maxous, Dave

Being unsure about me at this point is a joke right?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Save your VCA...

[Vecna]

I said there'll only be 1 scum on the wagon but there could feasibly be as many as 3. 4 would be a stretch.

Bus happy + coasting scum are a thing, having scum wagoned without a counter wagon is a plausible thing if theres 2 just coasting having their vote on a no-wagon and 1-3 others are fine bussing (since lets be honest, why wouldnt you bus yuri in that position?).

[Nero Cain]

Coasting and being lynchbait is standard Dave townplay. So much even that the fact he was actually posting before made me scumread him. Whether his resorting back to coasting is due to him falling back to his standard pattern or realizing my read was accurate for the right reasons...

hmmmm....I don't really agree. To me he's in the same vein of PV type players that are either really busy or really lazy. I'll be honest here...I can't really read him but I think its plenty possible he's scum sitting there and promising us more content but hasn't had any content related posts in like 6 posts.

[Vecna]

Alisae keeps being obstinate about any scumread people have, without providing any reasons whatsoever.

We need investigation or a lynch on one of the people he's hard-defending so much. His reads are all over the place, and like almost a complete 180 from mine. I dont see other town have that different of a grasp on the game.

[Vecna]

Coasting and being lynchbait is standard Dave townplay. So much even that the fact he was actually posting before made me scumread him. Whether his resorting back to coasting is due to him falling back to his standard pattern or realizing my read was accurate for the right reasons...

hmmmm....I don't really agree. To me he's in the same vein of PV type players that are either really busy or really lazy. I'll be honest here...I can't really read him but I think its plenty possible he's scum sitting there and promising us more content but hasn't had any content related posts in like 6 posts.

I fully agree.

[Vecna]

in fact, ill do a bit of a tone/content comparison between his current play and the play ive seen in his previous 2 towngames.

[Nero Cain]

not everyone is going to agree all the time and Ali WAS all over the place in 199 so seems kinda par for the course.

Lets lynch Dave.

[nancy]

I said there'll only be 1 scum on the wagon but there could feasibly be as many as 3. 4 would be a stretch.

Bus happy + coasting scum are a thing, having scum wagoned without a counter wagon is a plausible thing if theres 2 just coasting having their vote on a no-wagon and 1-3 others are fine bussing (since lets be honest, why wouldnt you bus yuri in that position?).

It's possible, it's just more likely that Yuri is Town. There were 3 competing wagons at 3/4 votes each for a while and then Yuri took off. It doesn't make sense for scum to have picked scum when they could've picked anything else.

[nancy]

And yeah, Aslan's reads are a total joke.

[nancy]

This is without taking into consideration of associations.
Brian, LUV, Nero, BaeReed, Creature
These are my locktowns.

If Aslan is scum half of these probably are too.