Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MathBlade]

can we stop poking at the inactive town in Davesaz and lynch the actively lurker scum in Nero Cain?

ftfy

[MathBlade]

Math I am not lynching Nero.

Add Davesaz to your not lynch list.
That is how sure I am he is Town.

[MathBlade]

Fight for someone else.

[MathBlade]

Subject: Gistou: Madness of Monsters

Just saw the 1st vc after dinner. Don't forget the plurality lynch mechanic. Be especially wary of unvote / revote the same player in a short timeframe, as it will be seen as manipulative to push that player lower in the group of tied votes.
I played plurality for years before moving here, so have all the relevant tricks up my sleeves

This is from the scum PT. As scum Davesaz has a mechanics mentality that is missing from his play.
He is also a lot more confident as scum.
Furthermore he handled RL differently.

[davesaz]

To be fair, I pay close attention to mechanics as both alignments. I'm salty atm because I've been trying to sandbag (not pick at all) to get a good wonder (already revealed above). And the game is so fast that keeping up is hopeless with my RL situation till the player list is cut in half.

[MathBlade]

You do but you note and okay it differently as scum. Your attitude shifts. You cite posts with links as why you scumread people. There are so many little things that you just aren't doing from your scum game with me.

Hell I have even been forced into lurking due to speed and RL it sucks.

[CloudKicker]

im okay voting in maxous gin leon, not nancy nero

[Maxous]

PV town is a shitread because as Town he doesn't brag about not reading posts.

PV being scum means that scum night-killed one of their own members that wasn't under pressure just for vague WIFOM and possible encouragement to lead to the town to mislynches.
he's town because that would be one of the stupidest plays i have ever seen.
i'm not even entertaining this

[davesaz]

Any possible vig abilities in play?
Any possible protective or pseudo-protective (RB, JK)?
If either of the above is true, then it is possible that PV could be scum.

The only kind of player who *should* want treestump is the type who are going to post their ass off after death. A player not in that playstyle type taking it is very questionable to me.

[davesaz]

EBWOP - if both of the above are possible.

[MathBlade]

PV town is a shitread because as Town he doesn't brag about not reading posts.

PV being scum means that scum night-killed one of their own members that wasn't under pressure just for vague WIFOM and possible encouragement to lead to the town to mislynches.
he's town because that would be one of the stupidest plays i have ever seen.
i'm not even entertaining this

Or delayed Town vig.
Lots of different things.

Secondly scum shooting PV is incredibly proscum as PV is generally lynchbait at end of games (see Wake's Mafia)
The flip is hidden and he can push who he wants when he wants.
PV taking Pyramids from Drixx was a scumclaim.

[MathBlade]

The Hanging Gardens

Each night, you may target a player to protect from a single killing action.

The Pyramids

If you die, no information will be released along with your flip. You will become a treestump and may continue posting in the main thread. You will be dead for all other purposes.

Mausoleum of Halicarnassus

Each night, you may select a player to form a neighborhood with. This neighborhood will last only the following day & night phase.

Stonehenge

Each night, you may target a player. If you are killed during the night, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.

Statue of Zeus

Each night, target a player. The first time a killing action targets you, that action will instead be redirected to your target.

The Great Lighthouse

(Available only to non-town players) Factional topics you are a part of gain day chat as long as you are alive.

If you are going to make a plan that is hard to fuck with, do it randomly. This is the list of who builds what.

Nobody claims.

Tomorrow we get another list. We assign the same groups to the town PRs.

Nobody claims.

By day3, we either have actionable intelligence, or we start finding out which scum took the scum wonders.

Anything else, aside from regular playing, is not a good idea

Gardens

Akane and Nebby (Alisae & Malachite)
Fro99er
Nero Cain
Yuri

Pyramids

beeboy
The DEO (Titus & Mathblade)
Leonshade
Elbirn

Mausoleum of Halicarnassus

Creature
Drixx
Julius Caesar (Aeronaut & Pine)
Lil Uzi Vert

Stonehenge

Vecna
ssbm_Kyouko
ooba
Maxous

Statue of Zeus

PeregrineV
Sondam (MariaR & gerryoat)
NoticeMeSenpai (JaeReed & mastina)
Albert B. Rampage

Pick whatever
Spiffeh

PV didn't even follow his own plan. (We disagreed with it as well but there were talks of what to do anyway.)

But the person who should have followed his own plan was the person who suggested the plan.

The fact he didn't means he meant to stop Drixx.

[MathBlade]

Peregrine: You do realize ur plan doesn't force scum to do anything
You put them in a pool with several other players. Priority values are INVISIBLE. Scum can just not freakin submit if they don't want the role, and

submit when they do

All this shit, these plans, these lists, I hate when cool setups devolve into this discussion

Yep, then we can lynch Vanilla Mafia because town will have all of the power roles, and cannot affect our night actions.

what happens when day5 comes around, and everyone should have something, and scum don't?

PV you Pyramids?

PV I could hug you. You has my reads and I am not entirely mad.

~~Math

No, i'm the doctor and I protected Spiffeh, becasue he bleeds green.

What are your thoughts on the content I posted in 5381?

PV lied about being Pyramids.
He also lied about protecting Spiffeh.

If PV wasn't already dead and I wasn't Stonehenge I would vig him.

[MathBlade]

Now let's look at when the known liar of Pyramids (in which it has been established in thread MULTIPLE times that Pyramids not claiming is a scum claim in and of itself)

Let's look at when he got active and what he pushed.

[MathBlade]

Lol you think I omgus that's cute Alisae also pere wtf do you mean "a lot tr"
were the biggest wagon right now if anything people sr us more then they tr us I don't even know why people sr us no one said anything besides Titus also Nebby this isn't my vote this is Gerry's he think's DEO is hard scum I'm null on it so I'll trust his judgement if I had my own vote I'd be voting Leon right now
Like you people say it's shade comment when it's legit making accusations I do that all the time and so does he so how is it scummy this game compared to other games like what the fuck thinking is all this
~Maria

Sondam (5): The DEO, Elbirn, Creature, Akane and Nebby, Frogger

You're at L-6, not L-0, so some townreads on you exist.

If you were total scum I'd be voting you now.

If Gerry is out of town for two weeks, why don't you vote who you need to?

Why does this reek of coaching?

Because of this:

Add me to that townblock where's Kison and Dream SOMEONE GET THEM IN HERE
Also nebby the only thing that scares me is boys
~Maria

I dont know yet. Get gerry in here so I can peer into his soul some

Gerry is on Vacation for 2 weeks so he'll only pop in from time to time on day 1

he should be here after though
I'm still gonna bug him to post though.
~Maria

Lol you think I omgus that's cute Alisae also pere wtf do you mean "a lot tr"
were the biggest wagon right now if anything people sr us more then they tr us I don't even know why people sr us no one said anything besides Titus also Nebby

this isn't my vote this is Gerry's he think's DEO is hard scum

I'm null on it so I'll trust his judgement if I had my own vote I'd be voting Leon right now
Like you people say it's shade comment when it's legit making accusations I do that all the time and so does he so how is it scummy this game compared to other games like what the fuck thinking is all this
~Maria

Sondam is town because of this post as well.

When i work with my townreads I care if they are on V/LA and sometimes they have reads even if on vacation. PV is trying to sell us a narrative versus MariaR/Gerry being a scumread and hoping Titus would tunnel.

[MathBlade]

Pere the way you worded it was like saying we have a huge amount of people townreading us when I can name 3 so fix your wording
~Maria

Not trying to rage you, but I will say you

can't act like being townread is a right

when it's something you earn (or not) each and every game.

It's more so I'm upset that I have no idea what were doing wrong. I don't think we've done anything really scummy sure were a stubborn duo but stubbornness is really NAI

@Sondham 1180 part 1 (Phone posting and omitting irrelevant parts is a pain in the ass).

I don't care if it's how you play or not. If you keep getting wagoned for the same behavior, you should stop doing it and adapt. I want to see you take a strong stance on something or eat rope. You and your hydra partner need to speak with one voice and sort shit out if town. Right now, all I am getting is shade tossing, refusal to commit, dissonance and rage.

TITUS. YOU. KNOW. MY. SCUM. GAME. AND. MY. TOWN. GAME. SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU ACTING LIKE I NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING WHEN THIS IS HOW I ACT AS TOWN

~Maria

PV face palming when his plan won't work because I say no.

[MathBlade]

Titus I think beeboy is just VI.

Are you the pot or the kettle?

PV is town

That's what Mama,

Jesus

, and the mod tell me.

bullshit, I never said that.

but ok you can be town.

Yeah, the first time someone mentioned Jesus directly, I thought "Who are they talking about"? Later it came up again I tired to figure it out with context, and then noticed your avatar. (and they called Spiffeh Mickey).

Drixx is taking the treestump.
There is no reason for anyone else to take it

Whoever takes treestump needs to be lynched or vigged as soon as possible.

Town won't give a shit, since they are still in the game, and if scum then they have no vote and won't count against our numbers and will probably not bother posting anyway.

Again PV agrees with the person who takes treestump needs to be vigged or lynched as soon as possible.

Why does he then try to reinforce that he is Town repeatedly thus making himself less lynchable
And not claim Pyramids when asked thus ensuring himself to be Townfirm the entire game and Town vig shoot me I cop PV.

[PeregrineV]

The Hanging Gardens

Each night, you may target a player to protect from a single killing action.

The Pyramids

If you die, no information will be released along with your flip. You will become a treestump and may continue posting in the main thread. You will be dead for all other purposes.

Mausoleum of Halicarnassus

Each night, you may select a player to form a neighborhood with. This neighborhood will last only the following day & night phase.

Stonehenge

Each night, you may target a player. If you are killed during the night, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.

Statue of Zeus

Each night, target a player. The first time a killing action targets you, that action will instead be redirected to your target.

The Great Lighthouse

(Available only to non-town players) Factional topics you are a part of gain day chat as long as you are alive.

If you are going to make a plan that is hard to fuck with, do it randomly. This is the list of who builds what.

Nobody claims.

Tomorrow we get another list. We assign the same groups to the town PRs.

Nobody claims.

By day3, we either have actionable intelligence, or we start finding out which scum took the scum wonders.

Anything else, aside from regular playing, is not a good idea

Gardens

Akane and Nebby (Alisae & Malachite)
Fro99er
Nero Cain
Yuri

Pyramids

beeboy
The DEO (Titus & Mathblade)
Leonshade
Elbirn

Mausoleum of Halicarnassus

Creature
Drixx
Julius Caesar (Aeronaut & Pine)
Lil Uzi Vert

Stonehenge

Vecna
ssbm_Kyouko
ooba
Maxous

Statue of Zeus

PeregrineV
Sondam (MariaR & gerryoat)
NoticeMeSenpai (JaeReed & mastina)
Albert B. Rampage

Pick whatever
Spiffeh

PV didn't even follow his own plan. (We disagreed with it as well but there were talks of what to do anyway.)

But the person who should have followed his own plan was the person who suggested the plan.

The fact he didn't means he meant to stop Drixx.

See, here I was shutting up at the request of some town players, then you go and make a post like this?

My intent was to determine if I had priority over Drixx for the treestump wonder. I decided this due to his lack of participation AT ANY LEVEL on day1. It turns out I did I priority.
Once I gained the wonder, I intended to start poking my snout into everyone in hopes of drawing the nightkill. Because that is HOW THE ROLE IS PLAYED.

So, you point out that I suggested random over coordinated, which no one bought into the idea.

Based on the fact that the idea was not universally accepted, why on God's green earth would you expect ME to follow it?

[MathBlade]

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

Daytalk is useful if utilized by the scumteam.

But overall, it is so useless that it is now standard to include it in games, where it used to not be standard in games.

PV trying to imply scum wouldn't build the daytalk wonder in a rolemadness game is insanity.
It also tells us day one they didn't have day talk and day two they would have.

PV is a smart player. PV scum means scum also have day talk.

[PeregrineV]

Titus I think beeboy is just VI.

Are you the pot or the kettle?

PV is town

That's what Mama,

Jesus

, and the mod tell me.

bullshit, I never said that.

but ok you can be town.

Yeah, the first time someone mentioned Jesus directly, I thought "Who are they talking about"? Later it came up again I tired to figure it out with context, and then noticed your avatar. (and they called Spiffeh Mickey).

Drixx is taking the treestump.
There is no reason for anyone else to take it

Whoever takes treestump needs to be lynched or vigged as soon as possible.

Town won't give a shit, since they are still in the game, and if scum then they have no vote and won't count against our numbers and will probably not bother posting anyway.

Again PV agrees with the person who takes treestump needs to be vigged or lynched as soon as possible.

Instead, he got scum to do it.
I hope he teaches me how to do that.

FTFY

Why does he then try to reinforce that he is Town repeatedly thus making himself less lynchable
And not claim Pyramids when asked thus ensuring himself to be Townfirm the entire game and Town vig shoot me I cop PV.

Scum have already proved it for me.
Next time I'll make sure to grab a town-sided power and totally shit it up so that it cannot adversely affect the scumteam.

[PeregrineV]

Daytalk I always feel is the best PR bar none. In Shadowrun where JaeReed is not so subtly referring scout and I used daytalk extensively to our advantage. Even though I never got a break from posting it let me remain consistent and strategize with scout. A couple of times I even told scout when to pivot and he proofed stuff I did.

Daytalk is useful if utilized by the scumteam.

But overall, it is so useless that it is now standard to include it in games, where it used to not be standard in games.

PV trying to imply scum wouldn't build the daytalk wonder in a rolemadness game is insanity.
It also tells us day one they didn't have day talk and day two they would have.

PV is a smart player. PV scum means scum also have day talk.

Scum had 2 chances to build it. Day1 and day2. Pretty sure they have it by now.

[Alisae]

Everytime PV makes a post I feel like going to the corner store to go buy some popcorn.

[PeregrineV]

What's going on that I now deserve the honor of Mathblade coming back into my attention?

I shutted up since it looked like people might be scumhunting (plus it was the weekend), but I swing by to check up and we're back to this?

[Nahdia]

Yuri has been prodded.

[PeregrineV]

Everytime PV makes a post I feel like going to the corner store to go buy some popcorn.

It's like I got up from my seat, and when I come back, Math is pissing all over it and trying to insist it was me that did it.

Now I'm at the point where I'm trying to figure out why.