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Post Post #9700 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:24 am

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Well, Senator Creature, the question is not merely one of Justice, but of viability. We saw support for convictions against Leonshade and Maxous in low numbers, and would be willing to support those positions at this time, the former with more enthusiasm than the latter.

We would actively oppose action against Senators Nero and Senpai, and have little feelings with regard to Senator davesaz aside from a desire to see
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kind of justification for it.

Lacking a recent tally by the Exchequer of the Senate, it is difficult to assess viability.
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Post Post #9701 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:25 am

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Yeah, I'm not sure if we're all town talking here, but we'll have to force scum to join the biggest wagon and achieve a lynch.
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Post Post #9702 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:25 am

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In post 9693, Nero Cain wrote:thing is, LUV not pushing towards any lynch is actively no lynching and that only helps scum. He even brought up that we should no lynch earlier. If Sondom flips town you guys owe me a Nancy/LUV lynch.

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Lol same thing could've been said for you if Math or Dave flipped town.
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Post Post #9703 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:26 am

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If you insist on a single wagon, you're scum.
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Post Post #9704 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:27 am

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In post 9627, Creature wrote:Wagons should happen.

We should prioritize who's not trying to push any wagon, just lowhanging...
FWIW, I find Creature's concern over lack of a good wagon to be very town. I continue to strongly dislike the unwillingness to pick someone scummy and stay there, but it seems to be playstyle.

Pedit: volume continues, multiple pedits to post, but with lack of wagon I guess it's ok.
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Post Post #9705 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:28 am

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I proposed no lynch because any death will give us information. Whereas the lynches we were proposing earlier were essentially policy lynches and you can't really analyze those.
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Post Post #9706 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:28 am

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Who would you wagon?
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Post Post #9707 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:29 am

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In post 9705, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I proposed no lynch because any death will give us information. Whereas the lynches we were proposing earlier were essentially policy lynches and you can't really analyze those.
There's a lot to analyse with the flipflopping going around.

Seeing someone that insists on staying on a dead wagon? Congrats, you found scum.
Seeing someone willing to make a good lynch happen? Congrats, you found town.
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Post Post #9708 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:29 am

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Say we lynch Dave and he flips town. All scum can say is that he was being a lurker and useless. Nothing to analyze.
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Post Post #9709 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:30 am

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Okay, davesaz is towning now.
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Post Post #9710 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:31 am

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Now say we lynch nancy, if she somehow flips town, we have reasons that can actually be analyzed.
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Post Post #9711 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:31 am

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In post 9698, Nero Cain wrote:but Maria and Gerry do coast as scum unless they have shored up their game....

I'm also light town reading Cloud.
Why do you TR Cloud?

I don't have any scum meta with Maria or Gerry, I was trusting Senpai on that. If they coast as scum I'm willing to string them up here.
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Post Post #9712 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:31 am

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There are a lot of wagons, it's like some of them must be on scum, so we analyse how each player felt about each wagon.
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Post Post #9713 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:31 am

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nancy isn't even active now.
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Post Post #9714 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:31 am

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Pretty much lynching a lurker tells us nothing.
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Post Post #9715 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:32 am

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Yeah, what would stop scum from lurking so their flip don't tell anything?
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Post Post #9716 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:32 am

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no lynch means there's zero chance we flip scum and a 100% chance town dies. It does not help.
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Post Post #9717 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:32 am

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If you're not Ceasar or Dave, your wagon can be analyzed because actual reasons have to be given.
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Post Post #9718 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:32 am

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If scum feel like they can coast to a large kind of LyLo (like 6:5, 5:4 or 4:3), they have a reason to lurk.
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Post Post #9719 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:33 am

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Nolynch gives scum two deaths in place of town lynch. They'll just kill the two towniest players.
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Post Post #9720 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:33 am

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you know, maybe ppl are lurking b/c they are scum. *gasp*
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Post Post #9721 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:34 am

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We'll lynch everyday unless it's 4p MyLo, we have no confirmed town and no whatever thing that can give us a free mislynch.
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Post Post #9722 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:34 am

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In post 9711, Leonshade wrote:Why do you TR Cloud?
my gut says that this is not 199 Cloud.
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Post Post #9723 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:35 am

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We need to check these ghost resistances against Sondam, ssbm_Kyouko and Elbirn wagons.
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Post Post #9724 (ISO) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:35 am

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Then we see who was pushing/doubt casting/dare I say buddying said players.
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