Pine's Mini Normal Review

[Pine]

The notion behind 3x 1-shot Trackers would be that it encourages some tactical thinking on their part. They can blow their wad all at once, and get three Townies confirmed or denied as PRs, or they can save them up for better chances later, or spread them out over time.

1-shot Tracker is about as weak a PR as you get, TBH.

This is the setup I'm looking at now:

Cop, Jailkeeper, 1-shot Bulletproof, 7x VT
vs
1-shot Tracker, 1-shot Tracker, 1-shot Tracker, daytalk

It's not the mountainous setup I was initially thinking of, but it looks balanced to me.

[mykonian]

I mean, in line with my previous post, think this is scumsided. Think we ended up with giving town a rather weak pr for 3rd, and then added scum power on top. I'm not sure, you add something on one side or shave from the other, I feel.

[Pine]

Okay, scrap the trackers.

[mykonian]

I'd pass that, if others agree, we'd need role pm's

[mastina]

I'd be fine with that setup. Might be slightly light, but it's good once we see the role PMs.

Also, define the interaction between the JK and the BP, when the JK protects the BP. Does the shot get used (the JK applies only when needed), or does the JK protection trump the shot being used?

[Pine]

Spoiler: VT Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You have no special powers.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

Spoiler: Cop Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Cop

. Each night, you may PM me the name of one player, aside from yourself, to investigate. You will receive one of three possible results: Innocent, Guilty, or No Result. You will receive a No Result answer if your power fails for any reason whatsoever.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

Spoiler: Jailkeeper Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

. Each night you may PM me the name of one player, aside from yourself, to jailkeep. This will effectively remove the player from the game for the night, simultaneously protecting them from harm and roleblocking them. Any kill actions targeting them will fail, and any actions whatsoever that they attempt will fail.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

Mod Note: The protection of the Jailkeeper supersedes that of the Bulletproof Townie. The BPT will not have their shield wasted if the Mafia targets them while protected.

Spoiler: BP Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

Bulletproof Townie

. You have no special powers, but the first night kill targeting you will fail.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

Mod Note: The protection of the Jailkeeper supersedes that of the Bulletproof Townie. The BPT will not have their shield wasted if the Mafia targets them while protected.

Spoiler: Goon Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

Mafia Goon

. You have no special powers, but may communicate with your partners, Goon PLAYER and Goon PLAYER at any time in this Scum Thread.

Win Condition: You win if your team eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

[Nexus]

We good?

[mykonian]

the JK I would remove the "removes them from the game" clause. Some related roles on other sites do exactly that, but a JK target can still be investigated here. Better not give people reason to be confused about it.

The bulletproof should have 1-shot bulletproof as his name.

Don't forget to add a part to your rules that scum have daytalk.

[Pine]

All good points

[mastina]

You will receive a No Result answer if your power fails for any reason whatsoever.

I would remove this clause altogether. You've included the possible results: innocent, guilty, an "no result". That tells the cop everything they need to know.

[mykonian]

I think when we get those fixes we can get this game to nexus

[Pine]

Spoiler: VT Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You have no special powers.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

Spoiler: Cop Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Cop

. Each night, you may PM me the name of one player, aside from yourself, to investigate. You will receive one of three possible results: Innocent, Guilty, or No Result.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

Spoiler: Jailkeeper Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

. Each night you may PM me the name of one player, aside from yourself, to jailkeep. This will simultaneously protect them from harm and roleblock them. Any kill actions targeting them will fail, and any actions whatsoever that they attempt will fail.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

Mod Note: The protection of the Jailkeeper supersedes that of the Bulletproof Townie. The BPT will not have their shield wasted if the Mafia targets them while protected.

Spoiler: BP Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

1-shot Bulletproof Townie

. You have no special powers, but the first night kill targeting you will fail.

Win Condition: You win if the town eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

Mod Note: The protection of the Jailkeeper supersedes that of the Bulletproof Townie. The BPT will not have their shield wasted if the Mafia targets them while protected.

Spoiler: Goon Role PM

Welcome to Pine's Death Trap! Here's your role information:

You are a

Mafia Goon

. You have no special powers, but may communicate with your partners, Goon PLAYER and Goon PLAYER at any time in this Scum Thread.

Win Condition: You win if your team eliminates all opposing factions. At least one member of your faction must survive.

Please /confirm in thread. Day One will be started after 12/13 players have confirmed.

[Pine]

Fixed

[mykonian]

I'm fine with this setup, good luck!

[mastina]

Indeed, I am also fine with it.

[Firebringer]

Ready to rock and roll whenever ur ready.

APPROVED WITH FIRE

[Nexus]

Pine - do you still need to delay things? Let me know.

[Pine]

Nah, fire it up.

[Pine]

Bump?

[Nexus]

I'm going to get caught up at the weekend. Been sick and busy.

[Pine]

Okay. No rush, actually, lots going on.

[Pine]

Randomized role distribution from Random.org. Whatever official playerlist Nexus generates will be mapped to this. If Keyser's list in the Normal queue matches the official list, that'd give us a scumteam of Gamma, Gerry, and JarJar, Town PRs would be Rautherdir, Vifam, and mattblackguy.

1 VT
2 VT
3 Goon
4 VT
5 Cop
6 Goon
7 Goon
8 VT
9 VT
10 VT
11 VT
12 Jailkeeper
13 1-shot Bulletproof Townie

[Pine]

Hello reviewers! The Deathtrap has been defeated, with almost half of the subjects surviving to live out the rest of their days.

Go read the endgame, you each have a cameo role!