Open 678 - White Flag GAME OVER!

[hapahauli]

Aris is probably town 'cause meta.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8654605

Nachomamma has a pretty good meta summary of him. I'll just quote it, because I can't say it much better.

[Transcend]

that's not a good reason to townread me, as i hyperpost as both alignments and play better as scum jsyk.

[Siblings Quarrel]

Hapa yay you're pushing ThinkBig with me
Seriously his reaction to the tojam wagon and saying he would lynch mastina is all kinds of scummy shit.
-Ali

[hapahauli]

that's not a good reason to townread me, as i hyperpost as both alignments and play better as scum jsyk.

It's not just the posting. It's the mentality, and the general "posting the first thing that comes to your mind without caring about the consequences."

On my computer, will elaborate on ThinkBig.

[Transcend]

yeah i'm good at faking that as scum

but you don't know me so whatever

[Transcend]

VOTE: hap

haven't been pleased with this yet

[Transcend]

feels manipulative and not in the towny manipulative way.

[Titus]

Let's just knock off the bullshit and lynch toejam.

[hapahauli]

Look at ThinkBig's filter over the last 72 hours. His treatment of the Titus wagon is super suspect.

It is well established that ThinkBig thinks Titus is town, and has thought so from very early on in the game.

Though Titus is probably town. Scum wouldn't need to ask if scum have day chat.

(I'll note that this is the only reason that TB has provided for Titus being town, and I consider this disproportionately weak reasoning given the strength of his read.)

Right before the Titus wagon starts (Titus has 2 votes on him at the time of the below), he posts this:

This day ends in the lynch of one of three people, end of story. Titus, Transcend, or mastina.

pedit all good, sorry to yell

I can support this, though transcend is still my top scum read and Titus is still a town read. I could lynch within Transcend/Mastina/Pine

Note that despite Titus being one of his top town-reads, he doesn't seem very concerned about preventing the wagon on him. He's more interested in establishing that Titus is a town read than actually objecting to Titus getting run up. Note the lack of anything like "I am not lynching Titus", or "We are not lynching Titus".

Titus then has a bunch of votes swing on her, and ThinkBig disappears!

He's clearly active enough to give the host well wishes:

I'm going to be gone for awhile. I've been kicked out of the house by my dad.

Firebringer will mod the game in my absence. Please thank him.

Sorry to hear. Been there before so I know how it feels. Let me know if you need anything.

While Titus is getting run up, he posts this. He's clearly around to object to the Titus wagon if he needs to, but is never to be found.

He's also clearly active and present enough to respond within 30 minutes to my vote on him!

hap that's a decent vote but at the same time if thinkbig is a counterwagon to titus, he will have no choice but to hammer her.

I'm not hammering a town read of mine.

also you feel a bit manipulative.

I agree with this.

But where are his objections to the Titus lynch? He's just sitting back and watching one of his top town reads get lynched, even though he's active enough to stop it.

That ain't town brah.

[Transcend]

UNVOTE:

TB why are you letting Titus take a beating the way she is?

[Siblings Quarrel]

THANK YOU HAP!
THANK GOD I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT TB'S TREATMENT OF THE TITUS WAGON IS SCUMMY AS FUCK.
-Ali

[Transcend]

i don't want Titus at L-1

nancy, Aris someone unvote please.

[hapahauli]

There's also a collection of other things in his filter that are suspect. For example, he complains a lot about things going on in the thread. Mafia love doing this, since they can say true things without contributing to town.

For example:

VOTE: mastina

Why the naked vote on Mastina? Don't like this vote at all.

Doesn't like the naked vote. Complains about it, despite never really calling Mastina mafia (and calling her town earlier in his filter). What does this accomplish? He just points something out and doesn't go anywhere with it. So what if he "doesn't like it", is Mastina mafia for that?

It also reads as super scummy and hypocritical when you consider that he did the exact same thing earlier in his filter.

VOTE: LUV

And that vote on LUV was not an RVS vote.

[Transcend]

ok

i like this hap guy

[Pine]

Love to Gin

[Transcend]

Pine what're your thoughts on TB?

[Transcend]

ugh i want someone to unvote so badly

[Siblings Quarrel]

I assume Pine still scumreads Me and mastina? lol.
-Ali

[hapahauli]

Love to Gin

Would you like to stop prod dodging and give us some substance?

[Siblings Quarrel]

Also I still want TB to answer my questions.
-Ali

[hapahauli]

Correction on #1812:

Nancy posted that empty vote, not Mestina. However the general two points still stand:1) ThinkBig is being critical of the vote without taking it anywhere or calling nancy mafia, and 2) ThinkBig being extremely hypocritical with his own justificationless vote on LUV.

[Pine]

Pine what're your thoughts on TB?

Shrug. What thoughts would you like me to have?

[Transcend]

What are your thoughts about his play in regards to the massive wagon on Titus?

[Pine]

Shrug. Imma ISO

[nancy]

This is 100% pure columbian townie mentality.

He says that as either alignment.