Open 678 - White Flag GAME OVER!

[hapahauli]

Is that the only reason you have to scumreas Titus? I've read your filter and havent seen any explanation for why you want to lynch him. Or toejam. Or anyone really.

Speaking of Toejam, your vote is on him, but you didnt mention him in your lunch possibilities. Why?

[Transcend]

yeah i wanna know that as well

in fact two people VOTING tojam are two people IN your lynch pool.

[hapahauli]

Falco plz

[Transcend]

See the problem is i have no idea if falco is scumslipping in every post as scum or if he's just an enormous freaking lynchbait.

Everyone and their dog wanted to lynch his slot in a game i was scum in but I didn't actually sort the dude.

[hapahauli]

I've been looking through some of his past games, and he's definely lynchbaity. If he keeps talking, I think I can sort him out.

[Siblings Quarrel]

Nah I think he's scum because he's posturing between the Titus and TB wagons and that's sorta what I expect scum to do here.
-Ali

[hapahauli]

He has two town games from what I have seen. No scumgames, so it's not possible to do anything meta conclusive. He does have longer posts in his town games that explain his reads, whereas thats pretty absent in this game.

[hapahauli]

Nah I think he's scum because he's posturing between the Titus and TB wagons and that's sorta what I expect scum to do here.
-Ali

But yeah, this too. It seems like he's very indifferent to who he wants to lynch.

[Transcend]

It's quite worrisome

[hapahauli]

Falco has two games:

Open 666 Pick Your Poison
- Town
- Replaces in, makes 12 posts, replaces out.
- Only alive for 6 RL days.

Newbie 1773
- Doctor
- Mislynched Day 1, 43 posts.

No mafia games, so I can't really do a complete comparison of his game play here.

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Open 666 isn't very useful.

He's just really not in the thread that much, and replaces out after 12 posts. His play feels similar-ish, where he gives reads without rationale. When put under suspicion, he provides this:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 3#p8696433

...which is a longer post (by his standards this game), and describes his reads and thought process in more detail.

Newbie 1773 is much more relevant, and is the more recent game.

He looks very different in this game compared to his gameplay here. He persues and questions his scumreads, and also comes up with these read-dump type posts:

{gigabyteTroubadour}
{Lighthaze, Accountant}
{Loopdan, Woodboys, AceQueen}
{TesXX, AjTheEpic}

Reasonings:
gigabyte: Not much to say here.
Lighthaze: I did say earlier that Light was being pretty scummy but I realized that it was pretty impulsive I said this in 122 I think(?) - either way I did doublepost and say that the wagon was pretty bad. Dummy not scummy IMHO
Accountant: Slight TR.
Loopdan: I can see the thought process behind the Light wagon but I don't think it's right. I'd like to hear more from him, but at the very least he has been poking around. I could see him in the tier below this, though.
AceQueen: I initially harped on her quite a bit for not being completely open to sharing her opinion, but then I realized that it was more or less just uncertainty rather than wanting to conceal one's opinion.
Woodboys: Yeah I think what he's said has made a lot of sense considering his background, but I want to know his current opinion on Tes.
Aj: Educating and playing aren't mutually exclusive things, but you're treating it as if they were. I don't see why you have to dedicate so much time to coaching and directing people when you could just be formulating your own opinions. I haven't seen much out of you, and, call it what you want, I don't see much if any justification for your vote on me.
Tes: He got to L-1 and then...just went back into the shadows. You'd think that a newb townie would step up to the plate whenever they're one vote from getting hammered, but as far as I can see, that's not happening with Tes.
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I did this super quickly; if I had all the time in the world I'd certainly make this more detailed. I'm going to try and elaborate more on the Aj and Tes, possibly Loopdan issues tomorrow, and I'd be happy to elaborate on anything vague.

... he obviously hasn't done anything like this in this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Newbie 1773 isn't finished and you can't talk about ongoing games.

[hapahauli]

OH shit I'm sorry. Didn't realize. I'd be happy to delete that if the mod will let me.

[Pine]

UNVOTE:

I was thinking hapa was someone's alt, but that's a major newbietell. I'm willing to reset and re-evaluate based on that.

[hapahauli]

What does me being a "newbie" have to do with me being scum or town?

[Pine]

Newbies have different tells and different thought processes. More jaded players who have been around a while are more immersed in site meta and patterns. Those don't apply to you, and you need to be assessed differently.

[hapahauli]

Whatever.
Lynch ThinkBig.
Good night.

[nancy]

Ohmy.

[Transcend]

Stickying the topic really doesn't do a damn thing.

People innocently break that rule all the time.

[tojam2]

I wouldn't call 2013 accounts 'nooby'.

[tojam2]

most identical twins are able to communicate via spoken telepathy - watch your back around these little mischief makers!

Twenty Third Votecount

:

Tojam2 - 3 (Titus, Transcend, Falco XV)

ThinkBig - 2 (Siblings Quarrel, hapahauli)

Titus- 6 (tojam, mastina, Aristophanes, Momo, BTD6, nancy)

Transcend - 1 (ThinkBig)
mastina - 1 (Pine)

Not Voting -

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Sunday, March 12th, @ 1:00 AM EST--(expired on 2017-03-12 01:00:00)

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

• Mastina is V/LA on weekends
  
• ThinkBig is V/LA on weekends

Is anyone going to be prepared to vote Titus as the last minute hammer?

[tojam2]

Titus, if you flip town, who dies tonight, who kills and why?

There is not a vig here. Whatever answer I give can be made wrong to dismiss me. Nice try.

I'm just trying to get a picture of what post-Titus game is going to look like, if you don't want to co-operate, fine, you're just pushing yourself even more towards a scumlean.

[hapahauli]

There's literally no way a lynch this apathetic hits mafia. I will last, last minute hammer Titus because no lynch sucks that much, but he'll flip VT and that's dumb.

I've said what I need to say on ThinkBig. Town's too inactive to swing there apparently.
Also down for tojam wagon, because atleast he has a *chance* of flipping mafia, and is a semi-realistic alternative to flipping the obv-town.

[hapahauli]

VOTE: tojam2

There's some stuff in the filter that makes me think there's a chance to flip mafia here. Not as great as ThinkBig, but better than Titus for sure.

Tojam's just been tunneled on Titus all game and isn't doing much else.

VOTE: TitusNot after last game. She's hella hard to read.

Voted when titus replaced in for being hard to read, and never took the vote off. It's not clear what the reasons for the scumread are beyond this post:

and just talk. K?

I HAVE BEEN TALKING.
THE FULL FUCKING GAME.
EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
UNAMBIGUOUS. CLEAR. ALL OUT THERE.
NOT HIDING.
STANCES AS CLEAR AS FUCKING DAY.
I HAVE BEEN MESSING AROUND SOME.
AND PUSHING>
BUT ALWAYS TALKING>

NEVER LACKING IT.
NEVER NO TALKING.

AND PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY LISTENING.
BECAUSE THEY SAW THE SAME SHIT I DID.
AND NOW THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONE.

AND WE ARE MOCVING FARTHER AND FATERW AY FROM A SCUM <YNCH.
WHEN WHE WERE SO FUCKING CLOSE.
SO. FUCKING. CLOSE.
AND SHOULD HAVE DONE IT FIFTY PAGES AGO.
AND SHOULD BEE ABLE TO HAVE A PERFET FUCKING TOWN WIN.
YET WE ARE GOING IN THE ENTIRELY WRONG DIRECTION BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ARE FUCKING LEAVING THE GAME FROM FRUSTRATION.

You're yelling and I don't like LUV left but Grey left because asshole who gamethrows. Not sorry about that one.

I have dealt with town you before, and had to work around you and Farside. This type of behavior is not a dialogue. I still have not a semblence of an idea or coherent thought in these pages. Stop yelling.

So what if she's yelling you've got to defend it or you'll further convince me that you're scum.

Let's run it up. Between Pine and Siblings, we'll have L-1. Maybe someone on the Titus wagon will be able to flip.

[hapahauli]

Just in general, Tojam's justified lynching Titus on the basis of being hard to read more than on th basis of being mafia.

[Aristophanes]

We still at L-1?

I lightly skimmed, but I'm at work atm.

Transcend's annoyance seems really weird