Civilization Mafia: Barbarian Encampment

[Pine]

I can go full-bore for the Traitor Vecna

[Pine]

Re-affirming our night actions:

Senpai Docs Mathblade
Brian kills nancy

It makes me a little uncomfortable to have our Doc make the kills, but as we know the Tracker is dead, it shouldn't matter much. In light of that, I'd prefer to spread our actions between two members, to limit our exposure to roleblocker. I initially was going to do the kill myself, but I think Brian is less likely to be roleblock-investigated than I am.

[JaeReed]

Seems good enough. I can pretend my target is conftown if there's no kill at least this way.

[Nahdia]

Brian kills nancy

this change was after the deadline! sorry, i can't accept it. I still have NoticeMeSenpai killing nancy.

[Pine]

No worries.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

should I vote yae and point out more than one scum trying to build daychat would be exposed due to failure and any fakeclaimers would be exposed, or vote nay for the decline scum information on what town has as far as PRs basis?

[Pine]

The whole "deny scum information" argument is bullshit, because it would actually give more information to Town than scum. Scum already has a bit of insight due to scumchat, Town has none. It's a net gain.

This Town is being dumb-paranoid about this.

[Gorkington]

could be really aggressive about that?

[Pine]

Nah, I don't actually want it to pass. I'd rather deny Town the info. I just have to sound gung-ho so that when it fails, I can be pissy.

Alisae did indeed neighbor me. I started posting as Caesar, then said "Fuck it, I'm posting as Pine because my read on you is strong and I want to dump info at you b/c this is a Masonry."

I made the full case in favor of passing the resolution at him, hoping he doesn't push it himself.

[Gorkington]

im probably gonna argue somewhat in favour just to try and get myself into the game and work towards a read on alisae.

[Gorkington]

[also im sorry if my posting is shit atm, my scumgame is super rusty :/ ]

[Gorkington]

dammit im too convincing when im just trying to understand things.
D:

[Pine]

Okay, let's talk wonders.

Great Zimbabwe is useless. I want to form a "Townbloc" but there are better ways to do that than with a neighborhood. Alisae wants me to go for it so we can use it as a Masonry thread, but I told him no. Admittedly, there's some utility to it, but it just doesn't stack up to something more robust.

Forbidden Palace sounds neat, as we can cockblock someone from getting wonders, but then there's another one of us who doesn't have a safe claim when massclaim comes around. I'm worried for CloudKicker when that happens, btw. I'm not too concerned about Town getting it, we can just kill them.

Leaning Tower

is what I want to discuss. Like the Alhambra discussion, there's a lot of utility to it for scum. Also, Alisae confirmed for me that Mathblade has been faithfully targeting me with Stonehenge, so the only way Mathblade dies without me getting outed is if we roleblock them.

Red Fort is also kind of crap, as anyone visiting will either screw us, kill us, or be harmless. It could conceivably tell us of a wonder-having person we weren't aware of, but it's more likely to be useless. I hope a Townie takes the bait, as it's even more useless to them. If they see one of us visiting, it's probably either justifiable (Senpai Doc'ing) or they're dead. Plus they have the off chance of outing one of the other Townies or even causing a ML.

Kind of torn. Grabbing Leaning Tower seems the right move, but I'm not sure. I think it's the only move we make today.

[Pine]

Elbirn/Gin/Gork rested D1 and D3, so that slot should be pretty damn high in priority. Brian rested D2, so he should be middle of the pack at very least. I rested D2 and D3, so I ought to be very top, rivaled only by people who also rested those days.

[Pine]

TIME TO POCKET THE FUCK OUT OF MAXOUS

[Gorkington]

http://imgur.com/a/qE5Rl
people are scumreading nightkilled pv for some reason?

[Pine]

Works for me. Makes no sense, but it floats their boat

[Pine]

Guys yasss. Alisae wants to form a Townbloc of Alisae, Caesar, Nero, and Senpai. I'm looking to add nancy, Math, and PV. That's a controlling percentage of votes, or close to it.

[CloudKicker]

ill make your slot bleed gork

[Gorkington]

thanks man

[CloudKicker]

no worry

[Gorkington]

:/

[CloudKicker]

:/

[mastina]

Go for leaning tower, yes.
Also fuck.
That probably wasn't a roleblock.
That was the other doctor.

I'd have preferred it being a roleblock.
But with the final kill being from our slot, it was probably the other doctor.

Who was thinking nancy was town, who could feasibly go for the Hanging Gardens D1?

[Gorkington]

at least its ambiguous.