In post 10047, Alisae wrote:D3 his push on Brian came off as manipulative. He was pushing Brian for a hammer when that slot is in general super fucking towny. Brian Skies replaced Drixx D1 who claimed he was going to built pryamids and Brian replaced that slot. Brian has done other things to make me townread him so....Yeah.
are there specific posts from his push there that you were reading as scummy?
can you talk a little bit about them if so?
if not i can stare at those posts some more cause i was admittedly getting a little lazy at that point in his ISO.
beyond his reads/votes, do you think his posting is scummy?
like.
i saw in my leon ISOdive that the two of you just finished a scumgame so im assuming you would have a little bit of a grasp on how he likes to play as scum, yes?
is this within your expectations of his scumgame or no?
and what do you make of his strong townread on you? is that something that makes sense to you based on your play here vs that game?
A. Gork Leon as scum is super careful. He's not going to make posts that stand out as scummy. I know in the game you're referencing he wanted to bus me all game but on the side he was going with other popular options that the town wanted. So honestly I have a hard time looking at Leon's individual posts and saying "This post is scummy."
B. He's playing to his scumgame.
C. It makes tons of sense considering my play in spyro vs this game. In Spyro I abused the too scummy to be scum gambit. Tho tbh I have trouble pointing out the small differences between my own scumgame and my own towngame.
nancy wrote:Like his ISO is just bad, he's doing nothing but coasting, he's awful in VCA, his jump on the Sondam wagon was obvscum. I have nfc how that Sondam wagon even happened that was the most fucking disgusting thing I've seen all game.
possible that im not seeing coasting when im ISO-ing but overall it seemed like at worst, he was maybe disengaged at times, yeah? what makes his play disengaged scum vs disengaged town?
do you have vca posted somewhere?
lil wrote:Something about blending in I think.
do you agree with this?
Coasting = following the crowd = blending in. They're functionally equivalent.
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Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
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Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
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Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
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Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
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Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
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Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch..
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Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
Just as a note, I'm very under the weather today so vote counts may be more infrequent than you've come to expect should activity be high. I'll do my best to keep up but I'm gonna be doing a lot of resting.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
hi meet my mafiascum gravestone, the flowers were probably left by camn or schadd or Prism, blow them kisses for me would you?
Gork do you want the bad news or the good news first?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
In post 9895, MathBlade wrote:Because I have made a PV argument people ignored and a Nero one showing it is his scum meta.
i actually have a meta read that contradicts this one and regardless of meta, nero is in the high end of people i dont want to lynch because they are constantly putting good content and i dont see anything wrong
Nero is putting out horrible content especially since I know he is wrong as I am Town.
I have actually been fairly good with reads thus far. I did not mislynch Bee, I did not mislynch ABR. I even rethought my Sondam read and was merely compromising since no one would lynch Dave or LUV. If I was on I actully would have unvoted after Gin's shit vote. And if putting "bad" content and having incorrect reads are a scumtell then dear you've tripped over it yourself.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Yeah I played with him in Code Geass Mafia when he was town and there he was basicly obvtown from what I remember. Yet again this was like going back to like D3 and D4 where we were blatantly gamesolving and were on the right pace. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69708
Nero Cain, KidAmn, MathBlade, Leonshade, Gorkington, Creature, Brian Skies, Caesar Wills It, Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, davesaz, Maxous, NoticeMeSenpai
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Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.
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youre leaning town.
seems like youre angry.
and frustration usually builds unreliable reads.
i would suggest sitting on it and coming back to it because im not really going to find anything compelling in what youre pushing there atm.
lynch yourself and I'll believe you are town if you flip town.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Math can be pretty horrible as town and I don't really think its outside the realms of impossibility that this is just bad town Math but them getting a wonder that requires they be vigged but not wanting to be vigged on n2 seems like a pretty huge dissonance. I'm also concerned with how much shade they've been throwing at the Nancy slot but never ever having reason to vote them. And Nancy hasn't even commented on it so I fee like it makes sense as scum buddy play.
I could maybe kinda see Gin/Gork coming to Maths defense for town cred. Would also make plenty of sense as buddy play.
I've played with LUV before and he's pretty useless as town. He's being useless but I don't really think its town. Like his hole "I'm going to be shit with my vote and punish town" is something that I have a hard time seeing coming from town. I think there's plenty of potential scum motivation in him not wanting to push anywhere or do anything.
davesaz I still think is scum for the reasons I outlined yesterday the fact that Sondam was a counter to his wagon is also telling. Also his "I'll start being useful if I don't get lynched and if I get a good result" seem like scum
AtE
to me.
I have a preconceived notion town should be open and forth coming with their reads but I've played enough games to know that there are some players that really really anti-town playstyles. Enter Nancy who wants you to believe that she has been WIFOMing her reads and I just don't really know if I buy that.
vote:Nancy
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
