Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

[CommKnight]

In case scum kills me tonight I will say Not Chara and A50 is 100% town. Anyone who votes them after my death are either idiots or scum (or both).

Fitz and Tywin are just strong town reads, take them for what they are from me or leave them be, depends on future situation.

But I do think final scum is between Elena, Vifam and SlySly. I just can't see it being anyone else at this moment and time. So if A50 wants to shoot one of the other two if Vifam flips town, I'll leave that to his discretion. But definitely lynch one more in the pool if Vifam is town.

[CommKnight]

nope.......

if Viffam is scum it makes sense that scum avoided lynching him.

Vote Vifam. At this point its worth the risk

Also you're not voting anyone at the moment, why not hammer?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Vote Vifam

[TheFuzzylogic99]

forgot to bold.......

[CommKnight]

So time to find out if we finally won or going into another night...

[TheFuzzylogic99]

crossing my fingers that Vifam flips scum........

Scum has been pretty terrible this game. James pretty much committed Harri Carri on day 1. Nero was pretty much MIA most of the game and than was killed bc of his defense of James....... Xan was a terrible lurker that got busted, I am surprised we have not won yet. Hopefully we win today........

[CommKnight]

Well guess we'll find out tomorrow morning if we are finally done or we gotta go through another night and day cycle.

[Vifam]

Whoops you're dead

[CommKnight]

@Mod, technically this is twilight period till results are posted/thread is locked. So is editing Vifam's post necessary?

[havingfitz]

Fitz and Tywin are just strong town reads

I should be more than a strong town read because of what you pointed out:

Also it'd be stupid to try and frame Fitz, because he wasn't the mafiaso. The mafiaso (one without powers) would be the one making the kills. Not the redirector. So by extension, the no-kill is NOT explained by Fitz being jailed.

This also means that since I was jailkept by Ramicus...I could not have redirected you to investigate A50.

So I should essentially be cleared. And I'd like to know why from anyone who thinks not.

[D3f3nd3r]

Flip is happening when I wake up, sorry for the delay.

I suppose I should have left it but I can't recall exactly what it said. Vifam can PM me between now and when he's flipped and I'll change it back to what he tells me if it seems right.

[D3f3nd3r]

VC 5.2 (3/14/17)

CommKnight [L-5]

Not Chara [L-5]

SlySly [L-4]

Vifam

Havingfitz [L-5]

Vifam [Lynch]

Havingfitz, Almost50, CommKnight, Tywin Lannister, TheFuzzylogic99

Elena Fisher [L-5]

TheFuzzylogic99 [L-5]

Almost50 [L-5]

Tywin Lannister [L-4]

SlySly

No Lynch [L-5]

Not Voting [2]

Not Chara, Elena Fisher

Deadline is 10pm on Sunday 3/26. That is in (expired on 2017-03-26 22:00:00).

With nine alive, it is five to lynch.

V/LAs:
Elena Fisher is V/LA through Friday.

We have a lynch. Information incoming...

[D3f3nd3r]

Vifam has been lynched. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Night 5 begins. It will end 3/16 at 3pm EDT, in (expired on 2017-03-16 15:00:00).

[D3f3nd3r]

CommKnight was killed. He was a Town Non-Consecutive-Night Rolecop.

It is now Day 6. With 7 alive, it is four to lynch. Deadline is 4pm on 3/30, in (expired on 2017-03-30 16:00:00).

[Elena Fisher]

I'm glad we lynched obv town on my V/LA who's next Chara?

VOTE: fitz

[Almost50]

So, I've done a reread during the night phase, and I'm sorry we lynched Vifam (but still, your style WILL get you lynched more often as you fall into apathy).

Anyhow, Sly Sly is almost confirmed Town now, and 1239 makes Fuzzy Town too. Here's the reworked readlist of mine:

Unlynchable: SlySly,
Almost Unlynchable: Not Chara, Havingfitz, TheFuzzyLogic99,
Not Today Lynch Pool:
Compromise Lynch Pool: Elena Fisher,
Primary Lynch Pool: Tywin Lannister,

VOTE: Tywin

This is the game winning lynch for us, guys.

P.S. My shot on Tywin should have resolved today, so it can't be Ram's JK that kept him alive either.

[Almost50]

Warning: Messy case as it's made of random remarks and observations. I haven't had the time to properly format things to look neat and organized.

Tywin soft defended James early on D1. He mostly was opposed to Comm although agreeing he was not a good lynch. I'm not in the mood to actually give a detailed analysis of the new read, but you can reread the opening 15-20 pages yourselves and see what you get (keeping in my mind the flips we've already seen). 766 sums it all up though.That and the fact both myself and Comm weren't killed earlier (especially Comm, who was being used to discover roles AND was useful to keep around bc he hard TR Tywin).

Now let's take a random example of a VC and see how it looks. In VC 1.10 (783) we see a 5 person wagon on Pepchoninga; all of whom have flipped Town. Scum have obviously avoided that wagon and are even trying to defend Pep (ex: James) in hopes the wagon would actually go through and then every one on it would become a suspect. (Things didn't work out too well though and they had to NK 3 of them already). Now let's see where flipped scum are: 2 are on Sly (hardly makes him a scum p of theirs). Nero is on Uzi (obviously distancing) which makes Skelda likely town (unless you think the scum team was voting in pairs. It was already odd to see Uzi+James voting together). Comm is Town I'm sure and TTTT already flipped green. Havingfitz is on Nero (again, can't be scum unless all scum did was vote eachother or WITH eachother), and Sly is on James (see previous remark regarding fitz). This only leaves Tywin + the two not voting (apart from my own slot). Again, Pep (now NC) is Town, so it's Fuzzy or Tywin, and I think this is Town Fuzzy still (actually had that read strengthened by Uzi backing off Fuzzy as soon as the latter claimed VT. Scum were fishing for PRs and not interested in lynching VTs early).

And now check the bottom of James' 864. 2 TRs (both flipped green) and 4 SRs (one flipped red and one flipped green already). Comm is Town and it's not customary for scum to include more than one of their p's in their scum reads. Even funnier is he was voting with his own scum read (his p, Uzi) on Sly. That pretty much clears Sly IMHO. Also Nero's 870 supports the notion, so Sly in Town (but I still hate his play on this game just as I do Vifam's).

Disclaimer: I wrote this up overnight, obviously, so not knowing who would die. I submitted the kill on Tywin but kept the notes just in case. It might be that we have a scum protector along with Tywin being the redirector.

[SlySly]

VOTE: Tywin

[Almost50]

@Elena:

NC is Town based on the confrontation between RC & Nero, and RC rage quitting. That's Town RC, and Nero already flipped Scum, so yeah.

Fuzzy defending RC (or rather wanting him to stay around longer) is a Town tell. NO SCUM would want Town!RC alive in this game, and especially not with the face-off he was having with Nero.

Sly is Town based on a number of posts back and forth with the flipped scum early on D1.

fitz is mechanically clear from being the redirector at the very least.

I'm the Town Vig (and I should be lynched if Tywin flips green, btw).

That leaves you and Tywin. If you know yourself to be Town you should be voting Tywin today. It's that simple.

[Elena Fisher]

No I know Chara was town I was being sarcastic cause you lynched my other top tr

[Elena Fisher]

Why does Fuzzy defending RC make him town and not me for wanting to stop a town vs town fight between RC and Vifam >.> I'm salty

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: Tywin
I get your logic.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Need time to think this out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Not Chara]

i'm back from my extended period of being frustratingly busy. hope no lynch happens while i see what i've missed. apologies for being useless so far.

[havingfitz]

A50...remind me why the Not Chara slot is 100% town.

Reading your points on Tywin above wrt the 783 VC actually makes me suspect the Chara slot. 5 people on that wagon and they're all town. I can't recall why the slot is being considered town and the players in it have done nothing pro town iirc.