Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

Nero Cain · Post Post #10975 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:14 am

Nancy is loud and "opinionated" but her reads don't stand up to scrutiny.

GORK IS A MISLYNCH!

but doesn't explain.

"SONDAM WAS OBVTOWN"

but had them no where and the highest they were ever listed as was null. She's also lying about not being online while Sondam was being lynched.

Vecna · Post Post #10976 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:14 am

Also, these last 2 Nancy posts right here just scream town to me.

And I actually agree with Nancy, after my stupid ass fight with Gerry it was rather obvious the slot was town. How it got speedlynched like that in my absence while I was over the top pissed I dont know.....at any rate, he was going to be scumreading me for the rest of the game so my point that he wouldve guaranteed lost us the game later on probably still is valid.

Vecna · Post Post #10977 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:16 am

Alisae, if youre around - I think it would really help if you give me a cookie tonight.

Vecna · Post Post #10978 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:16 am

Like whoever ends up getting that new neighbourhood wonder, ill probably be a part of it.

Nero Cain · Post Post #10979 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:16 am

I also just refuse to believe that she tunneled me the whole or most of d3 and while secretly town reading me.

nancy · Post Post #10980 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:18 am

Nero if you are Town you literally an embarrassment to MS.

Vecna · Post Post #10981 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:18 am

Also LUV, at this point id almost suggest you build that town-confirmation wonder today. It would probably solve quite a lot of problems in this game. Id be fine with Nero or Notice having it as well I guess.

Vecna · Post Post #10982 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:19 am

Nancy, lets not go the route of personal insults ok? I know youre pissed, but it wont help in this situation. Let cooler heads prevail, Ive already gone on enough rampages (hi-hi) to account for the entire game.

Vecna · Post Post #10983 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:21 am

Really hoping KidAmn is gonna do that notes thing based on his rereads. Some actual content that allows us to townread that slot would be nice.

Nero, and others that townread the slot, can you provide us with any reasoning for that townread that doesnt use arguments based on Day1?

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #10984 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:22 am

jesus fuck I'm drunk

I hate how I have to be on a diff acc for this because I can't just phone post anyways...

anyway, vecna your shit is disingenuous, you pull this fucking "i'm so town that the only reason I am not being nightkilled is because i claimed a useless wonder" bullshit then try to say my reason for saying it's protown for you to claim that is scum motivated is something fucking convoluted as shit. you keep declaring yourself as obvtown which you very much are not and it's so LAMIST that it's obvious you're just trying to put across that feeling through repitition so people won't try to lynch you.

pedit: and you think scum would have a highly scumread player get that wonder why? please, do tell. That's fucking nonsense, you're full of shit, vecna.
pedit2: I can confirm nancy was asleep because I fucking was too and the moment I tried to submit a post to say to fucking stop was when the thread got lynched and I was fuming. Means the sondam lynch means nothing with regards to alignment. Her shit ass read on me however? Yeah, that's AI. Nancy doesn't scumread me nor aslan ever in this gamestate EVER. Not once. She's too smart for that.
pedit3: JESUS CHRIST IT WAS A DOC PROTECT NOT A ROLEBLOCK FUCKING STOP
pedit4: SONDAM WAS OBVTOWN BECAUSE OF META BUT EVEN IF NOT, EVEN IF THE ONLY THING YOU COUNTED WAS THIS GAME,

THE SELF VOTE WAS TOWN GIVING UP

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pedit5: Aslan if you give vecna a cookie know I don't trust him as far as i could throw an elephant. That goes for literally everyone w/ a wonder. if we have town with chicken itza I want it to be me and vecna.
peditforeverandahalf: let me post...

Nero Cain · Post Post #10985 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:22 am

After Gin voted it was clear that it was a mislynch. (Wich is why town are lynching Gork today) Its not that she's wrong or right about the them, its that she never had Sondam anywhere near her town reads and I feel like her coming into today she is trying to gain town cred. Also she was very much online and posting during the Sondam wagon.

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #10986 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:26 am

In post 10802, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Ali because of his eagerness early on and his try hard case on me to right out the gate Day 1. He has a way of appearing like he is eager and excited for a game but there is a tonal difference that he cannot fake yet.

Creature because of his stream of consincious when he was wagoned seem genuine and I don't see a reason for him to attempt this gambit as scum

Do I really have to go over Math? There is no way Math stages that hydra dissonance as scum there.

Nero because of how he was attacked early on for his play during the first Resolution phase and his insane push on Math. The latter just seems pointless and a waste of time considering the position scum are in.

Not going over PV.

I understand the paranoia around Vecna but I strongly believe he is town. He is not as loud as scum in my experience. He would not fight so hard in the Resolution phase like did if he was town. There is no reason for him to white knight me as scum. PyP lasted for about 2 months and I'm pretty sure he knows that the reputation I have accumulated as scum or as a player in general is not indicative of my actual play. There is several other players here he benefits more from buddying or white knighting. All the other shit he's been scum read for his is solely due to his personality and not alignment indicative.

LUV is town because this is town reasoning.

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #10987 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:27 am

Like, he's wrong in a lot of things but I don't want to shade him because tbh I don't want scum to springboard off it, but he's just fucking town.

Vecna · Post Post #10988 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:30 am

In post 10984, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:jesus fuck I'm drunk

I hate how I have to be on a diff acc for this because I can't just phone post anyways...

anyway, vecna your shit is disingenuous, you pull this fucking "i'm so town that the only reason I am not being nightkilled is because i claimed a useless wonder" bullshit then try to say my reason for saying it's protown for you to claim that is scum motivated is something fucking convoluted as shit. you keep declaring yourself as obvtown which you very much are not and it's so LAMIST that it's obvious you're just trying to put across that feeling through repitition so people won't try to lynch you.

pedit: and you think scum would have a highly scumread player get that wonder why? please, do tell. That's fucking nonsense, you're full of shit, vecna.
pedit2: I can confirm nancy was asleep because I fucking was too and the moment I tried to submit a post to say to fucking stop was when the thread got lynched and I was fuming. Means the sondam lynch means nothing with regards to alignment. Her shit ass read on me however? Yeah, that's AI. Nancy doesn't scumread me nor aslan ever in this gamestate EVER. Not once. She's too smart for that.
pedit3: JESUS CHRIST IT WAS A DOC PROTECT NOT A ROLEBLOCK FUCKING STOP
pedit4: SONDAM WAS OBVTOWN BECAUSE OF META BUT EVEN IF NOT, EVEN IF THE ONLY THING YOU COUNTED WAS THIS GAME,
THE SELF VOTE WAS TOWN GIVING UP
.
pedit5: Aslan if you give vecna a cookie know I don't trust him as far as i could throw an elephant. That goes for literally everyone w/ a wonder. if we have town with chicken itza I want it to be me and vecna.
peditforeverandahalf: let me post...

Ill stop with the obv-town comments. My shit, however, is very far from disingenuous. Also, this doesnt sound like drunk-posting at all.

Ive already asked to be roleblocked, its the best course of action for town to make sure usefull wonders arent blocked, and for suspicions to be laid to rest (although even that probably wont work)

At any rate, feel free to remain suspicious - its only healthy if youre town, and you can be damn sure id indeed fool the shit out of you as scum. Youre not gonna get me lynched untill lylo anyways, so whatever. Your trust doesnt matter either to me, since ill continue to scumread you. If you wanna waste more energy here, feel free. Id like you to explain how it works though with your rock-solid townread on me that you had earlier based on the DEO stuff.

nancy · Post Post #10989 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:33 am

Notice my reads have been wonky for most of the game. I've gone through a lot of playstyle fluctuations over the period since I replaced in and the size of this game has basically just left me confused for a good deal of the time. I haven't played smart. But I've developed enough as a player by now to be able to at least wade in a game of this size and I think I'm pretty stable right now and have a good grip of what's going on finally. I reset my reads earlier today (IRL) and I like where I'm at currently. Also, you overestimate my ability to read you. When you're drunk, I can read you. Outside of that, I suck at it.

Nero Cain · Post Post #10990 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:33 am

In post 10974, Vecna wrote:What do you think of the possibility of Leon + Gork both being scum

Seems like a low possibility to me.

Vecna · Post Post #10991 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:34 am

You didnt think it was suspicious they were suddenly all over eachother?

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #10992 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:36 am

In post 10988, Vecna wrote:Ive already asked to be roleblocked, its the best course of action for town to make sure usefull wonders arent blocked, and for suspicions to be laid to rest (although even that probably wont work)

Haven't read past here but it won't work because you are fucking asking for it. It's like saying "hey I want this wonder to be accounted for so we can use someone else". I don't know why you think that should garner any towncred at all, and why you're promoting it to be as such.

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #10993 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:37 am

In post 10988, Vecna wrote:Also, this doesnt sound like drunk-posting at all.

Also, with all respect, you don't know me. I drink a hell of a lot, way more than I should, and like 2 nights(nancy?) ago I got really drunk to the point where I threw up and had the shakes all the next day....and yet I'm on it again because I'm an alcoholic but w/e, we all have our shit to get over.

Accusing me of lying about RL as any alignment is a fucking dog move.

Nero Cain · Post Post #10994 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:38 am

In post 10991, Vecna wrote:You didnt think it was suspicious they were suddenly all over eachother?

you don't think its suspicious that Math has been scumreading the Nancy slot and throwing shade their way...why is your connection scummy but not mine?

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #10995 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:39 am

In post 10988, Vecna wrote:Id like you to explain how it works though with your rock-solid townread on me that you had earlier based on the DEO stuff.

You literally explained it away yourself.

Like, along with the veiled threat of "you can't scumread me for this because I brought it up first".

Vecna · Post Post #10996 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:42 am

Dude its fine, just discount all the wonder nonsense in your reads - I agree its NAI if you apply certain reasoning. Everyone here that played with me as scum can tell you however that ill focus on optimal play as scum, and I didnt need anyone to be aware of my wonder if I was scum because I already had plenty of towncred from nearly everyone.

Claiming that wonder when theres both a roleblock, tracker (which there was before my first hints) and the double investigation wonder - as scum - is very sub-par play. What am I gonna use it for that way? To clear myself against the tracker? Or to state im the same or a dfferent allignment from whoever? I dont see the sense in it.

My only goal is that people trust their investigative results. The rest is irrelevant. And yes, im fine with getting roleblocked to achieve it - whether I ask for it myself is completely irrelevant in that regard.

Anyways, Nero should be fully aware that as town Ill often identify the town use in mechanics, and then share the information with everyone.

Vecna · Post Post #10997 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:44 am

In post 10993, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 10988, Vecna wrote:Also, this doesnt sound like drunk-posting at all.
Also, with all respect, you don't know me. I drink a hell of a lot, way more than I should, and like 2 nights(nancy?) ago I got really drunk to the point where I threw up and had the shakes all the next day....and yet I'm on it again because I'm an alcoholic but w/e, we all have our shit to get over.

Accusing me of lying about RL as any alignment is a fucking dog move.

No its not a dog-move, because stating shit along the lines of "im drunk" also serves an ingame-purpose; namely that were supposed to think your inhibitions are gone and youre freely posting away.

Its a very valid scum-strategy that ive used before myself.

The fact youre using OGI here in such a way, means its free-game for me to claim that your logical train of thought here doesnt sound like its a drunk man talking at all.

Vecna · Post Post #10998 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:47 am

In post 10994, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 10991, Vecna wrote:You didnt think it was suspicious they were suddenly all over eachother?
you don't think its suspicious that Math has been scumreading the Nancy slot and throwing shade their way...why is your connection scummy but not mine?

If it came from anyone else id be all over it Nero, absolutely.

Sadly ive had to deal with that shit myself all game as well, since Math has been scumreading me from post 1 - either because of some shit that happened in PYP, or because youre right and the slot is scum. I honestly cannot tell which it is, but im still leaning towards incredibly annoying town.

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #10999 (ISO) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:48 am

In post 10989, nancy wrote:When you're drunk, I can read you. Outside of that, I suck at it.

I don't think you suck outside of it tbh, but I have done a lot of stuff this day phase where if you're town you should know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am town and that my hard trs are v likely conftown. Aslan, Creature and Math being those.