Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

Nero Cain · Post Post #12075 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:19 pm

In post 12042, Creature wrote:So far you only said one scum anyway and that's making me think you think Nero is the only scum in the game.

Tell me which alignment this is likely to come from.

Creature · Post Post #12076 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:20 pm

RC logic aligned.

Nero Cain · Post Post #12077 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:21 pm

wrong.

Vecna · Post Post #12078 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:22 pm

In post 12054, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:I really don't have the energy for this.

Vecna, I told you what I felt was happening, I don't know what more you want from me on it. Some guidance on that would help.
Creature, it's incredibly demotivating to have you repeatedly say mastina isn't posting therefore I'm scum when it was mentioned prior to the game even starting that mastina would not be an active player.
Maxous is town because Creature is town, unless we're positing <redacted> as scum trying to make a scum buddy a townread through pairing him with obvtown Creature.

Also, Mausoleum can back me up that the early TR on Gin was a poor reaction test to see how he would react to getting an easy TR for something he didn't really deserve to have because Alibae had pointed out the obvious before him. This is not a call for Mausoleum to do so, ftr, I don't think it's necessary at this point, just...meh, people keep bringing that up and it's mildly annoying that I'm getting bitched at for it.

Some interaction, interpretation....not just static opinions but showing us how stuff thats happening affects you & your thinking? Also, you really cannot just keep stating that every time someone questions something you do that it annoys you or w/e, this is Mafia, were neither a bunch of psychics nor part of some lovable pony orgy.

Vecna · Post Post #12079 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:23 pm

Also, the way these two camps start shaping up almost makes it feel like this game is multi-ball after all.

Vecna · Post Post #12080 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:25 pm

In post 12057, Gorkington wrote:i really dont think its as simple as his playstyle?
at all?

its also weird as fuck that hes been floating davesaz as scum for ages now but trusts his result on creature/max without the slightest of doubt.

How have I been floating Davesaz as scum for ages? It was like literally a period of 24 hours last day or something. Also this second statement almost feels like youre fishing whether im the chichen itza....there no need Gorkington, I already claimed what wonder I have and its not that one.

Nero Cain · Post Post #12081 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:26 pm

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=70036

just look at RC flailing around. THIS is RC town. Whatever is in this game is not RC town.

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #12082 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:26 pm

In post 12078, Vecna wrote:
In post 12054, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:I really don't have the energy for this.

Vecna, I told you what I felt was happening, I don't know what more you want from me on it. Some guidance on that would help.
Creature, it's incredibly demotivating to have you repeatedly say mastina isn't posting therefore I'm scum when it was mentioned prior to the game even starting that mastina would not be an active player.
Maxous is town because Creature is town, unless we're positing <redacted> as scum trying to make a scum buddy a townread through pairing him with obvtown Creature.

Also, Mausoleum can back me up that the early TR on Gin was a poor reaction test to see how he would react to getting an easy TR for something he didn't really deserve to have because Alibae had pointed out the obvious before him. This is not a call for Mausoleum to do so, ftr, I don't think it's necessary at this point, just...meh, people keep bringing that up and it's mildly annoying that I'm getting bitched at for it.
Some interaction, interpretation....not just static opinions but showing us how stuff thats happening affects you & your thinking? Also, you really cannot just keep stating that every time someone questions something you do that it annoys you or w/e, this is Mafia, were neither a bunch of psychics nor part of some lovable pony orgy.

A lot of my posting these days happens on my phone. I don't really log out of my main there because it's a hassle to switch accounts.

And it does annoy me when I already stated what I was doing (I think? maybe I did only state that in hood chat?).

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #12083 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:28 pm

In post 12079, Vecna wrote:Also, the way these two camps start shaping up almost makes it feel like this game is multi-ball after all.

We've gone 3 night phases without having 2 kills in a night. I'm willing to bet it's not multi-ball at this stage.

NoticeMeSenpai · Post Post #12084 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:30 pm

In post 12080, Vecna wrote:
In post 12057, Gorkington wrote:i really dont think its as simple as his playstyle?
at all?

its also weird as fuck that hes been floating davesaz as scum for ages now but trusts his result on creature/max without the slightest of doubt.
How have I been floating Davesaz as scum for ages? It was like literally a period of 24 hours last day or something. Also this second statement almost feels like youre fishing whether im the chichen itza....there no need Gorkington, I already claimed what wonder I have and its not that one.

Actually the second statement is the opposite, reread it.

Nero Cain · Post Post #12085 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:31 pm

Luv are you around, I have a question for you.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #12086 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:32 pm

You're using a comparison to a game where I was tilted to the point of replacing out by a shitcan wagon at me and representing it as my 'town meta.'

Also, VOTE: Nancy. caps intended.

Nero Cain · Post Post #12087 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:34 pm

tell me why I was/am scum?

Vecna · Post Post #12088 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:51 pm

In post 12084, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 12080, Vecna wrote:
In post 12057, Gorkington wrote:i really dont think its as simple as his playstyle?
at all?

its also weird as fuck that hes been floating davesaz as scum for ages now but trusts his result on creature/max without the slightest of doubt.
How have I been floating Davesaz as scum for ages? It was like literally a period of 24 hours last day or something. Also this second statement almost feels like youre fishing whether im the chichen itza....there no need Gorkington, I already claimed what wonder I have and its not that one.
Actually the second statement is the opposite, reread it.

Hmmm I wasnt aware of that, mustve missed or it wrong assumption by the slot.

Caesar Wills It · Post Post #12089 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:32 pm

Welcome to Our presence, Senator RadiantCowbells. We shall see whether you are fit to fill the shoes left by Senators Drixx and Skies.

Spoiler: *

MathBlade · Post Post #12090 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:56 pm

Vote Counts colored Green (sorry for the delay in answering the VCA question I've had lots of RL stuff and the flu). If you hate VCs then this is in a convenient spoiler.

Spoiler: D1 VCs with all appropriate colors

Spoiler: Day 2 VCAs with all appropriate colors

Spoiler: Day 3 VCs with all appropriate colors

Spoiler: Day 4 VCAs with all appropriate colors

Alisae · Post Post #12091 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:56 pm

Hey guyz let's do VCA without scumflips.

MathBlade · Post Post #12092 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:56 pm

In post 12083, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 12079, Vecna wrote:Also, the way these two camps start shaping up almost makes it feel like this game is multi-ball after all.
We've gone 3 night phases without having 2 kills in a night. I'm willing to bet it's not multi-ball at this stage.

Agreed. Vecna likes mechanics. No way a town Vecna does that.

MathBlade · Post Post #12093 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:57 pm

In post 12091, Alisae wrote:Hey guyz let's do VCA without scumflips.

Yes. I do not do VCAs the way most people do them. If you do them the way Titus does yeah it's dumb without a scum flip. But mainly it's used to eliminate "dumb" scum teams here and demonstrate logical ones.

MathBlade · Post Post #12094 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:00 pm

In post 11654, Vecna wrote:Townblock:
..................

Scumteam Option 1:

Maxous
Leonshade
Gorkington
(Creature)

Scumteam Option 2:

Nero Cain
Caesar
Yuri/KidAmn
(Leonshade)

Let's analyze these two scum teams in depth with the votes we already have before us.

MathBlade · Post Post #12095 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:08 pm

First let's note that the teams here have four people and PV is missing which generally is a nod to my PV is scum theory and probably a scum claim from Vecna and if Vecna thought PV was town and based on what he said at the start of the game his scum team options would have 5 people. Setting that aside for the moment we go into these scum team suggestions more in depth.

Scum team option 1 of Maxous Leonshade Gorkington (originally Elbrin) and (Creature) not sure why the parenthesis from Vecna but I'm going to roll with it for now.
This sample of a VC was at Yuri's peak

Yuri (9): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Leonshade
beeboy (4): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Albert B. Rampage

And this is what happens an hour later.
beeboy (5): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Albert B. Rampage, Spiffeh
Yuri (4): Vecna, beeboy, Nero Cain, Leonshade

This team would mean that none of the scum team suggested by Vecna as Vecna isn't going to suggest themselves being town until the 9th vote on Yuri. This would mean an all town wagon for the first 8 votes on Yuri. That almost never happens barring someone being absolutely ridiculous and so antitown everyone can't stand them (see me in SU2). Yuri was lurking pretty hard core at the start of the game.

This makes that first team rather unlikely. Now let's look at the second suggestion more in depth.

Creature · Post Post #12096 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:09 pm

If Maxous is scum, I'm also scum.

Remember that.

Creature · Post Post #12097 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:10 pm

The same can be said that if Maxous is town, I'm also town.

MathBlade · Post Post #12098 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:15 pm

The second team presented with Nero/Caesar/Yuri (KidAmn)/Leonshade.

This however is truly odd as well. Knowing beeboy is town, this would require Leonshade and Nero Cain scumreads for that theory to remain on Yuri. I can see one scum remaining but not two. They were online at the time because they came in towards the end of the Yuri wagon. Bussing that hard at the end of the day generally gets looked at pretty hard, I doubt two scum would pile on a third towards the end of the day. Not only would it make a Yuri lynch likely but then one of themselves as well. The nancy/spiffeh slot would have to replace one of those members pulling the lynch off of Yuri to make sense since that slot was the catalyst off the Yuri slot.

MathBlade · Post Post #12099 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:15 pm

In post 12096, Creature wrote:If Maxous is scum, I'm also scum.

Remember that.

Explain why that connection exists for me like I'm 5.