Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

[Tywin Lannister]

GG guyz and Tywin
Was fun.

GG Alisae. Remember before the game, I said I'd get you lynched first if scum? Lol

[James3]

Claiming scum is gamethrowing regardless of alignment.

I agree but bad town do it all the time. We live in a meta world that allows for anti-town play b/c no one has the balls to pl.

Policy lynching is a dumb tactic if you're good at reading people. There's no reason to knowingly lynch VIs.

[James3]

Claiming scum is gamethrowing regardless of alignment.

Most of the time, but I can think os several unusual cases where it isn't (such as this game). Modkilling for gt confirms the existence of such a situation if there isn't a modkill. I mean, you could argue that "no one is gamethrowing" should be modconfirmed, but really it just adds another layer to "outguess the mod".

It also is unfair to the gamethrower's teammates (who are by definition his victims).

No, it doesn't because that is a terrible thing to do as either alignment and you'd probably rather not lynch.

Nolynching is usually better than mislynching. Should be pretty obvious why.

James you really need to get a fucking grip. You're not as good as your massive ego makes you think you are.

But I am. Lower skill players often try to deny it, but that doesn't change the facts.

[D3f3nd3r]

Claiming scum is gamethrowing regardless of alignment.

Most of the time, but I can think os several unusual cases where it isn't (such as this game). Modkilling for gt confirms the existence of such a situation if there isn't a modkill. I mean, you could argue that "no one is gamethrowing" should be modconfirmed, but really it just adds another layer to "outguess the mod".

It also is unfair to the gamethrower's teammates (who are by definition his victims).

No, it doesn't because that is a terrible thing to do as either alignment and you'd probably rather not lynch.

Nolynching is usually better than mislynching. Should be pretty obvious why.

James you really need to get a fucking grip. You're not as good as your massive ego makes you think you are.

But I am. Lower skill players often try to deny it, but that doesn't change the facts.

ok

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If anyone has any comments on things I could have done better either with moderation or with setup design please bring them up either here or via PM! I'm always trying to improve as a mod and your feedback definitely helps!

[Not Chara]

this isn't really an issue with the setup,but i

would

like to know the balance behind the scum power roles. the 2-shot ninja is a counter for the watcher, but i'm curious about the rest.
was the existence of the rolecop actually meant to help scum by being able to confirm two as goons? or was the timeshift mechanic enough of a buff to mafia?

[TTTT]

@D3f3nd3r
You did a great job.
The only thing that could have been handled better was I don't think you should have locked the thread when Super-Genius James claimed scum. I mean he was a certain lynch by then, but it did confirm his alignment when you then unlocked and he hadn't been mod killed or force replaced.

[D3f3nd3r]

@D3f3nd3r
You did a great job.
The only thing that could have been handled better was I don't think you should have locked the thread when Super-Genius James claimed scum. I mean he was a certain lynch by then, but it did confirm his alignment when you then unlocked and he hadn't been mod killed or force replaced.

Agreed, something better could have happened there. I was still thinking about it when I unlocked the thread, I just figured that I could modkill or force-replace him from an unlocked thread and didn't have any reason to lock the thread. In retrospect I should have realized that when I was locking the thread, not 10 minutes later.

[D3f3nd3r]

this isn't really an issue with the setup,but i

would

like to know the balance behind the scum power roles. the 2-shot ninja is a counter for the watcher, but i'm curious about the rest.
was the existence of the rolecop actually meant to help scum by being able to confirm two as goons? or was the timeshift mechanic enough of a buff to mafia?

I think that the Timeshift hurts Mafia, honestly, for the same reason as Nightless games: the scum can't take out any claimed PR or player that has their sights set on them without waiting a day.

[CommKnight]

Also personally I think this game was much more mafia sided, they only really lost due to part bad luck and part bad teammates. I mean my role was REALLY a hit and miss and only could catch 2/4 mafia (and even only check 1 every 2 days!).

Then the watcher was useless for at least 2 kills (even if they picked the right person to watch), then they'd have to survive to SEE a third person killed.

I feel Jailor was our one real power role and maybe vig.

James and XnadrojX were really a negative for scum team unfortunately.

[-Grey-]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p8844322

I really don't want to hear anyone who modkills players for the use of spoiler tags... in MyLo... without resetting the vote count... leaving a wagon on town at L-1 with scum off the wagon... making negative comments about another player's skill.

[D3f3nd3r]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p8844322

I really don't want to hear anyone who modkills players for the use of spoiler tags... in MyLo... without resetting the vote count... leaving a wagon on town at L-1 with scum off the wagon... making negative comments about another player's skill.

He was doing that as the moderator in that game too.

[-Grey-]

Everybody makes mistakes.

But if somebody is going to take on the mantle of narcissism, I'm going to shove those mistakes in their face at every opportunity until they learn a little humility.

[TTTT]

I was in that game (although I subbed out upon realizing is was worse than infant AIDs)
I have barrels of patience for anybody who can admit their shortcomings
but arrogance will get it's shit thrown back in it's own face

[James3]

I misunderstood a rule. Not sure what that has to do with my superb skill as a player.

But I guess if you don't have any valid ways to insult someone, you have to resort to red herrings.

[-Grey-]

I misunderstood a rule. Not sure what that has to do with my superb skill as a player.

But I guess if you don't have any valid ways to insult someone, you have to resort to red herrings.

You "misunderstood" basic game dynamics.
You "misunderstood" common knowledge norms.

Attempting to minimize your colossal fuck ups does nothing to mitigate the damage you caused.

[D3f3nd3r]

I misunderstood a rule. Not sure what that has to do with my superb skill as a player.

But I guess if you don't have any valid ways to insult someone, you have to resort to red herrings.

How was your play in this game "superb"? I don't see it here.

How was your play in the newbie game you played here not too long ago "superb"?

[James3]

You "misunderstood" common knowledge norms.

What you think my knowledge of this site has to do with my skill level is not at al clear.

Attempting to minimize your colossal fuck ups does nothing to mitigate the damage you caused.

I'm not "minimizing" anything. What I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with the matter at hand.

How was your play in this game "superb"? I don't see it here.

My plays were well thought ought and mostly entirely correct. That they didn't work out in this particular game doesn't really say much. No plan is perfect.

How was your play in the newbie game you played here not too long ago "superb"?

I correctly guessed every night kill as doctor.

[James3]

You "misunderstood" common knowledge norms.

What you think my knowledge of this site has to do with my skill level is not at all clear.

Attempting to minimize your colossal fuck ups does nothing to mitigate the damage you caused.

I'm not "minimizing" anything. What I'm saying is that it has nothing to do with the matter at hand.

How was your play in this game "superb"? I don't see it here.

My plays were well thought out and mostly entirely correct. That they didn't work out in this particular game doesn't really say much. No plan is perfect.

How was your play in the newbie game you played here not too long ago "superb"?

I correctly guessed every night kill as doctor.

[-Grey-]

[D3f3nd3r]

How was your play in the newbie game you played here not too long ago "superb"?

I correctly guessed every night kill as doctor.

"guessed"

[PeregrineV]

@Scumteam- I get why LoX was killed, but why me and why so early?

[RadiantCowbells]

RIP MiniRC

[CommKnight]

Well James has been permanently banned. So no need to worry about him in the future.

[RadiantCowbells]

This hurts man I'll miss little RC