Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

MathBlade · Post Post #13800 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:56 am

And I think at this point we need to mass claim before we answer the resoltuion question.

Reason being if I am wrong on PV scum then likely 5 scum are alive and we need to know who has what in order to make the proper decision on the resolution. Gtg.

CloudKicker · Post Post #13801 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:56 am

@rc it says killing actions, not night kill action so i guess day vig is exactly the reason why the tooltip doesnt say night actions

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #13802 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:57 am

creature was never going to be scum

Alisae · Post Post #13803 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:57 am

PV IS NOT FUCKING SCUM MATH STOP IT'S NOT FUNNY.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #13804 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:57 am

It doesn't matter you're still giving scum two kills

CloudKicker · Post Post #13805 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:58 am

In post 13804, RadiantCowbells wrote:It doesn't matter you're still giving scum two kills

they have to be lynched

Alisae · Post Post #13806 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:59 am

Occam's suggest they're already holding onto the vig wonder in medieval. They already have 2 kills.

Leonshade · Post Post #13807 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:59 am

In post 13806, Alisae wrote:Occam's suggest they're already holding onto the vig wonder in medieval. They already have 2 kills.

So why vote to give them the third and a guaranteed win?

CloudKicker · Post Post #13808 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:00 am

In post 13806, Alisae wrote:Occam's suggest they're already holding onto the vig wonder in medieval. They already have 2 kills.

what is the occam usage there ?

CloudKicker · Post Post #13809 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:00 am

In post 13807, Leonshade wrote:
In post 13806, Alisae wrote:Occam's suggest they're already holding onto the vig wonder in medieval. They already have 2 kills.
So why vote to give them the third and a guaranteed win?

basically this, the rush thing is too much

Alisae · Post Post #13810 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:01 am

Yeah great, we definitely give scum the loverilizer, but in exchange town will most likely get a cop.

Leonshade · Post Post #13811 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:05 am

There's no cop on offer today. Scum can get the loverizer as long as they have at least one vanilla goon left, AND they get the vig if we vote Yae.

AND if we vote Yae, scum players with existing wonders can deny town future cops or similar.

Town has the numbers advantage. Yae actually gives scum MORE opportunities to deny town wonders.

Alisae · Post Post #13812 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:07 am

Well Big Ben is a Role Cop, which is what I meant, but ok.

Alisae · Post Post #13813 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:08 am

I like Math's massclaim idea.

Alisae · Post Post #13814 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:08 am

UNVOTE:

Alisae · Post Post #13815 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:11 am

List of claims -
Me - Mausoleum
Pine - NOT Forbidden Palace
Dave - Chizen Itza
Vecna - Hagia Sophia
PV - Pryamids
Creature - Alhambra
Math - Stonehenge
RC - Great Wall

Leonshade · Post Post #13816 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:12 am

But town can most likely get the role cop regardless. It's pretty good, since it can catch the encryptor and the other scum-only roles (as well as lying scum), but with only one Wonder each I don't think it's high priority for scum. Whereas with a second Wonder slot each, scum can be much more liberal about trying to deny town Wonders.

Theoretically Yae doubles both town and scum potential. Except town has more untapped potential than scum, due to the high number of players and low number of Wonders.

P-edit: You unvoted so this post is pretty useless now.

Leonshade · Post Post #13817 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:13 am

In post 13815, Alisae wrote:List of claims -
Me - Mausoleum

Pine - NOT Forbidden Palace

Dave - Chizen Itza
Vecna - Hagia Sophia
PV - Pryamids
Creature - Alhambra
Math - Stonehenge
RC - Great Wall

Hmm?

Alisae · Post Post #13818 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:14 am

Someone stole Forbidden Palace from him.

Leonshade · Post Post #13819 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:15 am

I approve of the massclaim plan for the record. If scum have the second vig, get the third one and we mislynch, it could be game over.

P-edit: Hmmmm.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #13820 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:16 am

lol @ great wall

Alisae · Post Post #13821 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:23 am

Can a fuckin TR speak for once?

Vecna · Post Post #13822 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:23 am

First things first; Nancy - In case you built the RedFort: you would have received a visit from me if creature lied about roleblocking me. I used my wonder to make it appear to the tracker (who is dead) that you visited SantaClause (well at least I did untill the mod had to ruin the fun. Just as a longshot to verify whether creature rb'd me.

In post 13783, Nahdia wrote:
Maxous,
Civilization [Hanging Gardens]
, has been killed during Night 4.

Maxous had no failed building attempts.

What in the nine hells? Has Davesaz been scum all along then? This nightkill can serve so many purposes;

1: to make us townread creature after the pressure/scumreads coming from me + Nancy
2: To try and push blame on Nancy + me to discredit our reads
3: To keep us going at the current path without trying to derail any current trains of thought. (Aka to set up either Leonshade or Nero for todays lynch)
4: To try and make us lynch Davesaz

Vecna · Post Post #13823 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:24 am

In post 13786, Alisae wrote:VOTE: Yae

@MOD if you have not built anything since N1, you get priority for the 2nd wonder, right?

More scum reasoning

Vecna · Post Post #13824 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:24 am

In post 13788, Alisae wrote:btw I think scum skipped over Machu, otherwise they would most likely used it right or not.

Also Pine did NOT get the Forbidden Palace

So he's todays lynch then, excellent.