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Post Post #14025 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:44 pm

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Cloud or Nero?
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Post Post #14026 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:44 pm

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I will build you a big case when I get home but
A) It makes sense to RC.
B) Your word is meaningless with your backpedals on PV claiming scum and ABR 1v1.
C) VCA
D) Arguments that make 0 sense with teams that make 0 sense which I have dismantled repeatedly.
E) Drixx caught you early and so PV stole what he wanted.


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Post Post #14027 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:44 pm

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In post 14020, MathBlade wrote:
In post 14017, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 14010, MathBlade wrote:nancy yes Ali and Leon no
yea, it explains why Leon was so hard to lynch. I know Ali is all "sheepy" and stuff but this is bad even for him.
Leon and Sondam were hard to lynch because I said no repeatedly. Because I hard read Leon as Town and hard read Sondam.

You and your buddies are campaigning for who you think you can mislynch.
Sondam was lynched in under an hour. If you think thats hard....

Oh and all your hard-townreads were the ones doing it.

They were also the ones that caused beeboy and Kidamn.
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Post Post #14028 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:45 pm

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Honestly Cloudie is scum let's go get em.
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Post Post #14029 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:45 pm

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Votes there please.
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Post Post #14030 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:46 pm

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In post 14020, MathBlade wrote:You and your buddies are campaigning for who you think you can mislynch
I was actually against most of the mislynches this game so this isn't really based in reality. Also Sondom wagon went through realitivly easy. Sorry but you are giving yourself way more credit.
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Post Post #14031 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:47 pm

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we are lynching RC today. No if and or buts.
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Post Post #14032 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:48 pm

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In post 14023, Vecna wrote:Ok time to play it differently.

Mathblade - we played 2 games together. You townread me as scum, and scumread me as town.

Titus and I have played like 6 games together, and Titus has correctly identified me as scum in EVERY single one.

Why do you trust your own judgement over hers so much? There is zero logic in it, only if youre scum pulling some cute gambit since the start.

I WANT FUCKING ANSWERS.
Because Titus has been wrong on literally every read this game.

She spent two hours yelling Sondam scum to me.

Literally two hours.

I told her Beeboy was Town (after initially thinking she was scum)

Literally all Titus did was say I suck at mafia and we are claiming Stonehenge and I said no that is equivalent to game throwing and then when you weren't Pyramids like she swore you were she quit.

Instead of admitting I might have a bit of truth or work with me she quit.

I put up with a lunch of nothing but her saying that I have to do things her way and then using everything in the book to try her way.

Letting other players post more being silent asking why.

Far as I am concerned if Titus doesn't get her way she thinks you suck at mafia.

Every one of Titus's reads has been wrong. I am not about to trust hers on you now when I have a mountain of evidence that says you are scum.
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Post Post #14033 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:49 pm

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MathBlade that's fine but we're not lynching Vecna today
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Post Post #14034 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:49 pm

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Nero why should I listen to you again?
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Post Post #14035 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:50 pm

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stop whining about Titus and lets lynch scum. His username starts with an R and ends in a noose.
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Post Post #14036 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:51 pm

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In post 14034, Alisae wrote:Nero why should I listen to you again?
I'm town and I haven't been on a shitload of mislynches.
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Post Post #14037 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:52 pm

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In post 14036, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 14034, Alisae wrote:Nero why should I listen to you again?
I'm town and I haven't been on a shitload of mislynches.
Therefore all of your reads are 100% correct. Is this what you're getting at?
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Post Post #14038 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:52 pm

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In post 14026, MathBlade wrote:I will build you a big case when I get home but
A) It makes sense to RC.
B) Your word is meaningless with your backpedals on PV claiming scum and ABR 1v1.
C) VCA
D) Arguments that make 0 sense with teams that make 0 sense which I have dismantled repeatedly.
E) Drixx caught you early and so PV stole what he wanted.


That is for starters while phone posting.
A - You were scumreading me way way before RC joined - and even he knows im town, even though he doesnt want to admit it since he wants to strongarm me in voting Nero with him
B - Backpedalling is what rational people do when arguments make no sense. Scum wouldnt nightkill their own. Scum would abuse the treestump to sow CHAOS. He hasnt done that AT ALL. Even if PV is scum - IT DOESNT MATTER, since he is not doing jack shit to manipulate us. If thats what happened, TY dumbass scums for giving us a present. SO hell yes I backpedalled. Maybe you should try it sometimes when your logic isnt logical. Also dont bitch about ABR to me, your hydra was right there alongside me pushing that slot. You wanted that lynch just as badly.
C - Yeah so there were 4 wagons on 4 different townies day1. Mine wasnt really a wagon, but this happens all the time. W/e
D - Yeah you mean when you gave your opinion and did a lot of work to go into arguments I made? Oh man, Mathblade doesnt agree with me, I must be scum. NEWSFLASH; Noone in this game is agreeing to your reads, o your VCA outcomes. Are we all scum?
E - Drixx didnt catch shit. He went into a capslock spam rant because someone disagreed with him. Also, Drixx is still fully capable of being scum. Also Drixx only LURKED for 2 days straight, which is why PV took the treestump. The fact that PV is not using it at all though is fucking lame, ill agree to that.
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Post Post #14039 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:54 pm

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In post 9811, Nahdia wrote:
Lynch Vote 3.29


Sondam (9):
Vecna, Creature, Nero Cain, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Caesar Wills It, Brian Skies, Leonshade, Sondam, Lil Uzi Vert

Nero Cain (2):
nancy, MathBlade
CloudKicker (1):
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Caesar Wills It (1):
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Not Voting (1):
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With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Oh really?

Creature conf town
You and Nero who I scumread

You wanna gaslight some more about who started Sondam?

Pedit reading that when I get home.
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Post Post #14040 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:55 pm

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In post 14036, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 14034, Alisae wrote:Nero why should I listen to you again?
I'm town and I haven't been on a shitload of mislynches.
That is A) Incorrect and B) Easy when scum.

And C) Easy to catch in VCA.
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Post Post #14041 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:55 pm

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In post 14032, MathBlade wrote:
In post 14023, Vecna wrote:Ok time to play it differently.

Mathblade - we played 2 games together. You townread me as scum, and scumread me as town.

Titus and I have played like 6 games together, and Titus has correctly identified me as scum in EVERY single one.

Why do you trust your own judgement over hers so much? There is zero logic in it, only if youre scum pulling some cute gambit since the start.

I WANT FUCKING ANSWERS.
Because Titus has been wrong on literally every read this game.

She spent two hours yelling Sondam scum to me.

Literally two hours.

I told her Beeboy was Town (after initially thinking she was scum)

Literally all Titus did was say I suck at mafia and we are claiming Stonehenge and I said no that is equivalent to game throwing and then when you weren't Pyramids like she swore you were she quit.

Instead of admitting I might have a bit of truth or work with me she quit.

I put up with a lunch of nothing but her saying that I have to do things her way and then using everything in the book to try her way.

Letting other players post more being silent asking why.

Far as I am concerned if Titus doesn't get her way she thinks you suck at mafia.

Every one of Titus's reads has been wrong. I am not about to trust hers on you now when I have a mountain of evidence that says you are scum.
Titus has a record of NOT being able to read Maria.

Titus has a record of reading me FLAWLESSLY when im active. If im active, she has NEVER been wrong about my alignment.

Go read every game we played together, then crawl into a corner and admit you are WRONG. Because if you keep this up, we have 0% of winning. Scum will never kill you, because you have that silly wonder that you claimed. Theyre not gonna kill me either, since my wonder has only use in denying it to scum.

Also if I was scum.....WHY WOULD I BE SO BUSY APPEALING TO YOU? THERE WOULD BE NO POINT.

Im not getting lynched for the next 4 days if we make it this long. Yet here I am, trying to salvage any potential possibility for town to still win this. WHICH WONT HAPPEN, if you keep being so stubborn.
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Post Post #14042 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:56 pm

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We don't even have a scum flip! How the fuck is VCA even POSSIBLE?
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Post Post #14043 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:56 pm

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Vecna how do you think fighting with Math is to your win condition regardless of either of your alignments
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Post Post #14044 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:57 pm

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In post 14037, Alisae wrote:Therefore all of your reads are 100% correct. Is this what you're getting at?
lol such misrep. They are way better than your reads.
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Post Post #14045 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:59 pm

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In post 14044, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 14037, Alisae wrote:Therefore all of your reads are 100% correct. Is this what you're getting at?
lol such misrep. They are way better than your reads.
uh huh yeah i wonder who the night kill was.
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Post Post #14046 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:59 pm

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oh wait, not you.
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Post Post #14047 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:59 pm

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In post 14043, RadiantCowbells wrote:Vecna how do you think fighting with Math is to your win condition regardless of either of your alignments
Because if I dont change her mind, we might as well give up now and toss it in.

Even if we lynch scum all the way up untill 3 way lylo, its gonna be me + math + 1 scum and itll be a dayphase that lasts for about 15 minutes. We have no mislynches to spare on either of us, and scum will never ever NK either.

If scum dont have 2 vigs and we mislynch today, itll already be required that town has 100% unity tomorrow. If we keep having this disparity there is no townwin possible _AT ALL_.
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Post Post #14048 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:00 pm

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How is a worst case of 5 scum in 15 mylo?
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Post Post #14049 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:00 pm

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In post 14040, MathBlade wrote:That is A) Incorrect and B) Easy when scum.

And C) Easy to catch in VCA.
I don't need to be scum to have good reads. I made it quit clear that I wasn't scumreading Yuri/Kid, or Bee or ABR so yes it IS factually true that I haven't been on most of the games mislynches.
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