Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MathBlade]

Lynch Vote 4.30

Leonshade (8):

NoticeMeSenpai, KidAmn, CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert, Alisae

KidAmn (5):

Maxous, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, RadiantCowbells

Vecna (1):

Gorkinton

RadiantCowbells (1):

davesaz

Not Voting (1):

nancy

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

Yeah Leonshade is confTown as the alternative requires Maxous to be scum soooo yeah Leonshade is confTown

[nancy]

Alright, so I just read Maxous Iso........And it does appear that him doc'ing on Ceasar is a very likely option of what happened.

Scum picking up on him softing that he saved their Nightkill is obviously also a rather good explenation why they figured it out.

btw, NANCY - you could try to build for the PALACE today as another safeguard. We can still try to build it due to the earlier resolution, so if Pine is lying you should get it np.

Nets us a guaranteed scum lynch + IC for tomorrow if pine is lying, if its not the case all that happens is you lose prio for the next day. Thoughts?

It's possible that Pine would make that play as scum, but I'm going to leave that off the table for just the moment. It's basically a better idea regardless for me to go for priority on tomorrow and hope for another gamebreaking wonder like the neighborhood thing. Trying to build without priority just doesn't work as I have repeatedly proven to myself by still being a fucking VT.

Why all this trouble to set up ceasar though...

It might very well also be that Scum picked up on Maxous saying he doc-saved just to try and clear Ceasar through him not getting the palace things.

Plenty of scenarios that could have occured.

Where did Maxous say that?

[nancy]

Lynch Vote 4.30

Leonshade (8):

NoticeMeSenpai, KidAmn, CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert, Alisae

KidAmn (5):

Maxous, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, RadiantCowbells

Vecna (1):

Gorkinton

RadiantCowbells (1):

davesaz

Not Voting (1):

nancy

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

Yeah Leonshade is confTown as the alternative requires Maxous to be scum soooo yeah Leonshade is confTown

????????

[Nero Cain]

like whats your opinion on the whole "Nero is getting bussed by RC" thing that

the scumteam

Nancy, Ali and Leon are pushing?

[nancy]

RC seems to have the best grasp of the gamestate out of anyone. He's correctly townreading me, considered it likely that KidAmn would flip town and largely sees the same things I do when it comes to townreads.

This is also the one reason I'm paranoid about his slot. He could be abusing his informed position to tell the truth about things A, B and C to get a mislynch at D.

But outside the paranoia, I'm townreading him. And at this point it's really hard for me to imagine a scumteam that includes RC, but includes neither Nero nor CK. So even in the situation that RC is scum, I think he's doing what Ali claims and bussing his buddy on replacement. And if RC is town, I think he just has really good reads and I'm willing to trust him here. Nero and CK are the lynches I'm willing to go for today.

VOTE: Nero

I'm sorry but your post is fake.

VOTE: Leonshade

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol you can't just confirm people off of VCA omg

[Lil Uzi Vert]

head hurts, head hurts

[nancy]

The maxous thing wasnt that supe obvious btw. He merely stated; "Pine is town, trust me on this please".

Much more likely to be picked up on by scum if Pine was indeed their intended NK that night.

Ooh. Right.

[Nero Cain]

Yeah Leonshade is confTown as the alternative requires Maxous to be scum soooo yeah Leonshade is confTown

Math if you are going to do VCA you have to present it objectively. Leave your preconcieved notions of this is tow/this is scum.

[MathBlade]

Everything he has said makes sense. What doesn't do you?

Pedit:

I am Town by rolePM
Creature is town by Dave and Maxous.
RC is town because Drixx.

This means either Gorkington or nancy are the only potential scum that could hammer.

So that means (assuming PV town although I disagree) there would be 2-3 scum on that wagon.
The only potential scum on that wagon make Leonshade impossible to be scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If we follow Nero here, it is very possible that Drixx being the scum mastermind he is told Alisae to take the neighboring wonder and use it to manipulate people that he felt can read Alisae well. He probably got frustrated at one of his partners being wagoned or being inactive and replaced out. Alisae fits the former, Leon fits the latter.

[MathBlade]

Yeah Leonshade is confTown as the alternative requires Maxous to be scum soooo yeah Leonshade is confTown

Math if you are going to do VCA you have to present it objectively. Leave your preconcieved notions of this is tow/this is scum.

I do.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Stop right there. Pretend Drixx never existed, is RC still town?

[MathBlade]

If we follow Nero here, it is very possible that Drixx being the scum mastermind he is told Alisae to take the neighboring wonder and use it to manipulate people that he felt can read Alisae well. He probably got frustrated at one of his partners being wagoned or being inactive and replaced out. Alisae fits the former, Leon fits the latter.

Not a chance in hell Drixx does that. EVER.

[MathBlade]

Stop right there. Pretend Drixx never existed, is RC still town?

Not going to happen for the first part. Therefore your second question is irrelevant.

[nancy]

Aslan I am trusting you on Caesar

Isn't it a little disingenuous to trust that Ceaser is town but not willing to trust Ceaser that I'm town?

Caesar's reasoning for TRing you is/was based on outdated meta I believe. I'm still re-evaluating at this point and going through PoE. Waiting for people to respond.

[Nero Cain]

RC is town because Drixx.

His replace out was null. ISO him and tell me why he's town via play.

[MathBlade]

Aslan I am trusting you on Caesar

Isn't it a little disingenuous to trust that Ceaser is town but not willing to trust Ceaser that I'm town?

Caesar's reasoning for TRing you is/was based on outdated meta I believe. I'm still re-evaluating at this point and going through PoE. Waiting for people to respond.

Then get your vote off confTown then nancy.

You said it yourself scum wouldn't bus yesterday.

It is physically impossible for a 5 man scum team to be off of Leonshade.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If we follow Nero here, it is very possible that Drixx being the scum mastermind he is told Alisae to take the neighboring wonder and use it to manipulate people that he felt can read Alisae well. He probably got frustrated at one of his partners being wagoned or being inactive and replaced out. Alisae fits the former, Leon fits the latter.

Not a chance in hell Drixx does that. EVER.

Stop right there. Pretend Drixx never existed, is RC still town?

Not going to happen for the first part. Therefore your second question is irrelevant.

Lol this is the problem Math. You're just clearing people off meta. The second thing is even worst, you won't even pretend like RC was here from the start.

[MathBlade]

RC is town because Drixx.

His replace out was null. ISO him and tell me why he's town via play.

Claiming he would take Pyramids.
Not getting Pyramids.
Replacing out because not getting Pyramids.

Done. Drixx is town.

[nancy]

I doubt this especially with Maxous dying and you saying you'd vig him over me. nancy is just scum people.

What are you even doubting? Your read on me is literal garbage.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

He didn't even replace out because of that. He raged about the page length which is literally NAI.

[Nero Cain]

I do.

You do? b/c it doesn't seem that way to me. Like...we know that all of Ali, Nancy, Leon were on 3 of the 4 mislynch wagons so if one is doing VCA it should point to those 3 but you are only scum reading Nancy so yes, it seems like you are using your preconcieved notions that RC and Ali are town and I'm scum and using VCA to see what you want.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@mod: replace out. I will totally trash your game otherwise. Some people apparently believe I'm obligated to stay chained to my desk and read their worthless drivel at a clip of nearly 1,000 posts a day, even when I'm playing a LYLO at the end of a 13k post game and they

can go look

and see that I was sacrificing sleep as it was.

Sorry to the folks on the playlist that I was looking forward to playing with. Catch ya'll in another time and place.

Congrats to the assclowns for getting me to replace out for 2nd time ever.

[MathBlade]

If we follow Nero here, it is very possible that Drixx being the scum mastermind he is told Alisae to take the neighboring wonder and use it to manipulate people that he felt can read Alisae well. He probably got frustrated at one of his partners being wagoned or being inactive and replaced out. Alisae fits the former, Leon fits the latter.

Not a chance in hell Drixx does that. EVER.

Stop right there. Pretend Drixx never existed, is RC still town?

Not going to happen for the first part. Therefore your second question is irrelevant.

Lol this is the problem Math. You're just clearing people off meta. The second thing is even worst, you won't even pretend like RC was here from the start.

You mean how every person
Beeboy and Sondam who Town have lynched despite my hard meta read and gasp they flipped Town.

I am never voting Drixx/RC.

Pick a different mislynch candidate.

Unless you destroy my argument of why someone is confTown you can say post ABCD is scummy as fuck and I don't care. ConfTown is confTown unless that argument is destroyed.

Saying "it is null" is not good enough. Saying I have to disregard what is the equivalent to a cop check to me isn't good enough.