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Post Post #14625 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:56 am

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In post 14599, MathBlade wrote:
In post 14596, davesaz wrote:Possible ways to get no result:

Roleblock or JK me (see note below on JK)
One of my targets is ascetic
One of my targets was JK'd (is this even in the game? I don't know it's just one of the standard roles that can affect mine)
My targeting was redirected to an ascetic.
My targeting was redirected to someone I had already targeted.

Creature could be scum if:
Scum correctly predicted that Creature would be one of the targets and redirected it to town. I consider this to be very unlikely, so unlikely that I'm taking my result as a conftown on Creature.

What's really going to piss me off is if Creature RB'd me. He was acting like he didn't believe my claim. :(
Or just the roleblock that night was picked up and used
This is right up Math's alley.

Here, math, are all the wonders. What wonders could have made Dave get "no result"?


@Dave- which real wonders could have affected it?
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Post Post #14626 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:56 am

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Did anyone have an off reaction to RC's claim?
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Post Post #14627 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:57 am

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In post 14623, Nero Cain wrote:like you said it yourself, scum are tired of this game and comfortable with the game state. (though I might be adding the last part.) Who are those? Vecna, Nancy, RC, Ali and Leon.
RC doesn't check out because he just subbed in. The others do though based on that theory.
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Post Post #14628 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:58 am

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@pv I'm sure you are quite capable of reading them and figuring that out yourself.
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Post Post #14629 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:00 am

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In post 14402, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Cloud, please stop lying to stroke your ego. I've only misread you once and that was in the game that Shadow modded. If you're counting Hogwarts, you're the idiot that had Not Mafia as town. You can't blame someone for scum reading you for that. I've caught you as scum with Gerry and suspected you as traitor in another game in which you turned out to be one. This is part of why you're being scum read. You're falsely remembering past games trying to discredit because you believe you're somehow better than me. I didn't think scum would stoop that low but here we are now
hm no lol, the game about gerry yes you scumread me correctly, hogwarts i appealed to you a hundred time and you were braindead, just because my reads were bad on other slots doesnt justifiy your inability to read me when im appealing directly to you many many times. That game about the traitor i might remember wrongly but im pretty sure i wasnt in your scumreads
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Post Post #14630 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:00 am

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In post 14628, davesaz wrote:@pv I'm sure you are quite capable of reading them and figuring that out yourself.
Except I'm not the cop with a failed result. TownDave the cop would want to figure what-the-fuck happened, because it's important to solving the game.

If your faking some shit because your scum, then you are going to have to hang yourself.

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Post Post #14631 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:03 am

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In post 14625, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 14599, MathBlade wrote:
In post 14596, davesaz wrote:Possible ways to get no result:

Roleblock or JK me (see note below on JK)
One of my targets is ascetic
One of my targets was JK'd (is this even in the game? I don't know it's just one of the standard roles that can affect mine)
My targeting was redirected to an ascetic.
My targeting was redirected to someone I had already targeted.

Creature could be scum if:
Scum correctly predicted that Creature would be one of the targets and redirected it to town. I consider this to be very unlikely, so unlikely that I'm taking my result as a conftown on Creature.

What's really going to piss me off is if Creature RB'd me. He was acting like he didn't believe my claim. :(
Or just the roleblock that night was picked up and used
This is right up Math's alley.

Here, math, are all the wonders. What wonders could have made Dave get "no result"?


@Dave- which real wonders could have affected it?
Others don't have roleblock capability
Medieval Hagia Sophia Alhambra
Reinassance Leaning Tower
Industrial doesn't apply we aren't at end of day
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Post Post #14632 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:03 am

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In post 14421, MathBlade wrote:so the entire scum team has to be in Nero, Gorkington, LUV, Vecna, CK, and nancy
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Post Post #14633 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:03 am

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In post 14630, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 14628, davesaz wrote:@pv I'm sure you are quite capable of reading them and figuring that out yourself.
Except I'm not the cop with a failed result. TownDave the cop would want to figure what-the-fuck happened, because it's important to solving the game.

If your faking some shit because your scum, then you are going to have to hang yourself.

Which will it be?
...PV stop scumclaiming Davesaz is confTown and already did.
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Post Post #14634 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:05 am

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In post 14435, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Ali
Ceasar
Gork
Leon
nancy
Notice
Nero

Vecna

LUV
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Post Post #14635 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:06 am

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Nothing in ancient
Nothing in classical
In Medieval: Alhambra to block, Great Wall for ascetic, Hagia Sophia for redirect
In Renaissance: Leaning Tower to block
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Post Post #14636 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:07 am

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Dave was most likely roleblocked unless Vecna WIFOM and redirected Dave.
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Post Post #14637 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:08 am

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In post 14635, davesaz wrote:Nothing in ancient
Nothing in classical
In Medieval: Alhambra to block, Great Wall for ascetic, Hagia Sophia for redirect
In Renaissance: Leaning Tower to block
Yeah forgot Great Wall derp
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Post Post #14638 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:08 am

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In post 14627, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 14623, Nero Cain wrote:like you said it yourself, scum are tired of this game and comfortable with the game state. (though I might be adding the last part.) Who are those? Vecna, Nancy, RC, Ali and Leon.
RC doesn't check out because he just subbed in. The others do though based on that theory.
I think RC is actually the most comfortable. He's really done nothing but tunnel on me. His proposed team yesterday was me, kid, Dave and CK. This doesn't make very much sense aside from a skin deep "Nero, Yuri/Kid, SSBM/CK are all town reading each other" Until Dave was claimed the cop wonder he was a talked about lynch and he made no sense as a buddy with me since I had tried like hell to get him lynched earlier. This was RC just throwing together ppl he thinks he can get lynched without a driving force behind it. And as much as I disagree with Math. Math is right that we should be proposing teams and not just throwing out one or two scum reads. RC isn't doing this.
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Post Post #14639 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:09 am

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PV has explored some weird things but he's generating discussion. I like what he's doing here.
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Post Post #14640 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:09 am

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In post 14633, MathBlade wrote:
In post 14630, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 14628, davesaz wrote:@pv I'm sure you are quite capable of reading them and figuring that out yourself.
Except I'm not the cop with a failed result. TownDave the cop would want to figure what-the-fuck happened, because it's important to solving the game.

If your faking some shit because your scum, then you are going to have to hang yourself.

Which will it be?
...PV stop scumclaiming Davesaz is confTown and already did.
There are 7 dead confirmed town- I am one of them.

I see him posting, but have you bothered to see what you can get from it?
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Post Post #14641 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:10 am

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Assuming claims are true

Creature RB (Alhambra)
Unknown scum RB (Leaning Tower, and they would need to have received it that EOD)
Vecna scum redirect to the ascetic (look for odd reactions to RC claim)
One of my targets is ascetic
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Post Post #14642 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:11 am

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People who expect me to have targeted them are also suspect.
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Post Post #14643 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:11 am

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Well it be nice if you can out the targets lol
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Post Post #14644 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:12 am

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In post 14631, MathBlade wrote:Medieval Hagia Sophia Alhambra
One is creature. Why would towncreature roleblock the cop claim?

The other allows for Dave to get some sick false positive that could result in a mislynch=
Each night, you may target a player. Specify a wonder with an investigative action, as well as a potential result for that action. If your target is targeted by the specified wonder, the result of the investigation will become the result you provided.
Why would scum roleblock him when they can get better results by the Sophia?
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Post Post #14645 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:13 am

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In post 6941, Nahdia wrote:The Great Wall
You are immune to all night actions. This ability will be lost after the first killing action which targets you.
If one of your targets had this.....
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Post Post #14646 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:13 am

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In post 14640, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 14633, MathBlade wrote:
In post 14630, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 14628, davesaz wrote:@pv I'm sure you are quite capable of reading them and figuring that out yourself.
Except I'm not the cop with a failed result. TownDave the cop would want to figure what-the-fuck happened, because it's important to solving the game.

If your faking some shit because your scum, then you are going to have to hang yourself.

Which will it be?
...PV stop scumclaiming Davesaz is confTown and already did.
There are 7 dead confirmed town- I am one of them.

I see him posting, but have you bothered to see what you can get from it?
No you aren't confTown.

The more you push confTown the scummier you get.

No I spent my Saturday trying to figure it out by using RNG /sarcasm
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Post Post #14647 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:13 am

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tbf you were scumreading RC yesterday so I would think you'd maybe want to target RC?
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Post Post #14648 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:14 am

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@ Math Why are you town reading RC when he's not proposing a scum team?
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Post Post #14649 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:15 am

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In post 14644, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 14631, MathBlade wrote:Medieval Hagia Sophia Alhambra
One is creature. Why would towncreature roleblock the cop claim?

The other allows for Dave to get some sick false positive that could result in a mislynch=
Each night, you may target a player. Specify a wonder with an investigative action, as well as a potential result for that action. If your target is targeted by the specified wonder, the result of the investigation will become the result you provided.
Why would scum roleblock him when they can get better results by the Sophia?
Because they would have to know both with Hagia Sophia.

If they guess that Dave targeted X and then don't know who Y is then saying same or different alignment is risky as fuck. Better to make it no result.
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