Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[PeregrineV]

LUV why did you like The Oracle?

Potential scum slips and priority thing.

@Uzi-

Why no build the Oracle?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV why did you like The Oracle?

Potential scum slips and priority thing.

@Uzi-

Why no build the Oracle?

Doesn't really suit me. I don't care for information unless it's a guilty.

[MathBlade]

I literally spent hours trying to explain what I thought and Titus just says no or postbans me because I disagree with her reads even when I explain how her reads are wrong irrelevant.

People are coming around to a lot of the people I had with my first VCA. Granted Yuri was wrong but I will be shocked as fuck if Vecna and LUV aren't scum with that opening. Vecna townreads LUV over literally nothing.

[MathBlade]

Vecna moreso than LUv because of flat out missing the towntell in the first post.

MariaR is almost always picked as a mislynch candidate. Mafia is NOT a popularity contest it is a lynch scum contest and quite frankly to me MariaR is almost the easiest player to read on site.

[Nero Cain]

No I'm not town reading him for that. I'm town reading him because his pushes do not make sense considering the gamestate. They're more ego driven and much more in your face.

I think his pushes make plenty of sense as scum

IN THE GAMESTATE

. We hadn't been lynching any scum so he comes in and tries to strongarm a mislynch on me and my "buddies" are kid, and cloudkicker and Dave. I'm town, Kid is now confirmed town. And the

REASON

me, Kid and Cloud were being pushed as a team is b/c we all town read each other. That is so fucking weak. AND he adds Dave on as my buddy-WHO HAD HAD BEEN PUSHING. That would make no sense from a town POV. He wasn't hunting. He was just randomly throwing out some players that might get lynched is all. You're wrong as shit bro.

[Nero Cain]

Math how do I make sense in a team with Vecna and Nancy?

[MathBlade]

Math how do I make sense in a team with Vecna and Nancy?

You do. I am going slowly here. If I do TLDR no one reads.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No I'm not town reading him for that. I'm town reading him because his pushes do not make sense considering the gamestate. They're more ego driven and much more in your face.

I think his pushes make plenty of sense as scum

IN THE GAMESTATE

. We hadn't been lynching any scum so he comes in and tries to strongarm a mislynch on me and my "buddies" are kid, and cloudkicker and Dave. I'm town, Kid is now confirmed town. And the

REASON

me, Kid and Cloud were being pushed as a team is b/c we all town read each other. That is so fucking weak. AND he adds Dave on as my buddy-WHO HAD HAD BEEN PUSHING. That would make no sense from a town POV. He wasn't hunting. He was just randomly throwing out some players that might get lynched is all. You're wrong as shit bro.

No it doesn't make sense because his predecessors were widely town read and he could easily just coast as scum.

[MathBlade]

Ok I didnt want to post this but all the dumbasses are forcing me.

SCUM WANTS SCIENCE.

IT ALLOWS THEM TO -NOT- PICK THE SHITTY DAYCHAT. WHICH IS A WASTE. OF A SLOT

WITH SCIENCE, THEY CAN DISCUSS DURING THE NIGHT HOW THEY COORDINATE THE PICKING OF ABILITIES AND HOW TO DIVIDE THEM.

WITHOUT SCIENCE, THEY NEED DAYCHAT TO COORDINATE

picking science effectively gives scum the opportunity to pass on daychat. We WANT them to be forced to pick daychat.

Everyone arguing so hard why they want science probably realized this.

Main person is Drixx who is literally bringing out all the bad arguments why we need it and is trying to -shade- me and my logic hard.

How do you feel about that Titus? Ignore the parts where he is caressing your ego and all that, and look at the argument he is making and how hard he is pushing it, pretty much just forcing all kinds of nonsense together just to discredit my reasoning.

What kind of special are you? Are you

seriously

trying to argue that any scum team would pass on a day chat facilitator just on the HOPE that something better might be attained later in the game ... just because they can discuss what to build at night if we research science? That's your whole logical thought process?

And here I was assuming you had something actually important you were not saying and not something so completely implausible as to be absurd to even worry about.

Paranoid? No I don't think so.

TRYING TOO HARD

to look paranoid.

And you gets a townread!

~~Math

Fyi re Drixx

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Have you ever considered that Vecna has a better understanding of my personality and play style than you ever will Math?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

His town read me on is not just based on meta.

[Nero Cain]

he is coasting....

[Lil Uzi Vert]

His town read me on is not just based on nothing

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

he is coasting....

Coasting is Ali, Creature, Ceasar, Leon lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Cloud too

[MathBlade]

Have you ever considered that Vecna has a better understanding of my personality and play style than you ever will Math?

You aren't addressing the points there instead that is an empty plea to townread Vecna so I townread you. This is the shit that is shade. You attempt to discredit me not the point.

[Nero Cain]

If Math is scum I'm going to anti-nom any scummy noms. Its not that they've played a good game its that town has played poorly and them just being stubbornly headstrong isn't some "OMG WUT MAD SKILLZ U HAZ!" thing. If they are town they should be scum MVP though.

[Nero Cain]

he is coasting....

Coasting is Ali, Creature, Ceasar, Leon lol

RC also fits VCA.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You're not taking into account Gerry at all...

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: What Vecna Townread LUV for and Vecna said not to worry about a scumread

Hey guys

What's shaking?

Sounds like a bad idea.

VOTE: None

Agreed with Math. Picking a resolution to minimize scum harm is playing to not lose. Picking what's best for town is playing to win.

What's wrong with playing not to lose? Isn't playing optimally always better?

@mod If Arts is chosen, will a vote/lynch mechanic still be available during MYLO/LYLO?

Why does it seem like you're thinking so far ahead?

The majority of the Anicent Era Wonders suck

We can but we most likely won't. That is asking for a lot.

Playing not to lose is playing smart. Playing to win is gambling.

Sciences just leads to distractions. Gives scum an excuse to look like they're doing something.

I full heartedly disagree. There's already awesome stuff now, and town can coordinate. There's two wonders I would want personally from this stage here. Who said wonders go up in value as time progresses?

For instance, sciences with the neighborizer can coordinate and form a masonry. Sciences with the Stonehenge can publicly cop who takes a scummy role if they die at night. The doctor can heal prime targets for good role acquisition. (If someone says, I am really good at X and wants it, the doctor can keep them alive).

It may not be traditional coordinating and leashing but it still is coordinating.

~Titus

All of them are awesome theory wise but have the potential to really swing the game into scums favor. There is only one Wonder this era that is guaranteed to help town and screw scum.

I didn't notice Vecna was the first one to say 5 either. To be fair, me, him, and Maria just finished a game together where there were 20+ players and we were on a scum team of 5.

MB and Titus were also in that game.

We don't need information, we just need to force scum to beat us with strong Day play.

Let it go LUV, absolutely noone is going to scumread me over something so obvious and trivial.

I was actually defending you

The last post in there by Vecna is a scumclaim.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Maria felt town early but remember it was a hydra, can't clear them based on one head.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol omg

[MathBlade]

You're not taking into account Gerry at all...

I had one game experience with Gerry not enough for a meta tell but if I canread one head and it tells the whole head does. Sondam Town told. I didn't need to take into account Gerry head.

[Nero Cain]

like maaaaayyyybbbbeeee I could see RC town if scum Ali, Nancy, Leon are cum sitting there and abusing this "RC is bussing Nero!" but he seems completely content with whats going on and thats not town thinking about things. He's coasting wannabe rapper Math.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You do because Vecna may have decided to ignore your town tell because of Gerry/