Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I can see where Gork is coming from but it doesn't matter at this point due to how far scum are ahead.

[PeregrineV]

i dont see the serious benefits to knowing my pred's build request and i seriously think theres potential for it to help scum SPECIFICALLY in this instance.

Noted.

[Nero Cain]

Vecna is sitting on my with little to no case. How do you guys not see how opportunistic he's being?

[Vecna]

Why were you doubting if Creature would RB you?

Because I was scumreading him yesterday?

[PeregrineV]

In civ games when a civ dies the wonder dies (except civ 6 sometimes) so can Hagia Sophia target a dead wonder as that wonder doesn't exist? Similar to how I can't target PV.

Can you target me?

[PeregrineV]

Moderator: Can anyone target a dead player?

There answer should be no then you lied Vecna.

@Mod- Can I be the target of an action?

Depends on the action. You are considered dead so by default, no.

A trgic loss, to be sure.

[MathBlade]

Moderator: Can anyone target a dead player?

There answer should be no then you lied Vecna.

I never said anything about targeting dead players. I merely stated if the tracker wonder were to be used on nancy last night, and I wasnt roleblocked, my wonder wouldve done something.

you can ask the gm if my wonder can be used to fake results from wonders that are no longer in play though.

Yes because the player has the wonder you'd need to target the player with the wonder so I feel that isn't permissible or nothing should happen. However I have the question in bold and I think you are full of shit.

And I respect you as a person but do not townread you.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why were you doubting if Creature would RB you?

Because I was scumreading him yesterday?

And? Why did you doubt that he had RB'd someone or would RB you? If you were scum reading him, wouldn't that make you more likely to believe that he would?

[Vecna]

why would you think your thing would work if you were expecting to be RBed?

Thats the exact point Nero, it wouldnt.

It would only do something if Nancy picked up the Redfort, AND if creature was lying.

My entire play was only done to -maybe- be able to determine if creature was lying.

[MathBlade]

In civ games when a civ dies the wonder dies (except civ 6 sometimes) so can Hagia Sophia target a dead wonder as that wonder doesn't exist? Similar to how I can't target PV.

Can you target me?

I already asked the mod after your Pyramids shit I can't.

[Nahdia]

In civ games when a civ dies the wonder dies (except civ 6 sometimes) so can Hagia Sophia target a dead wonder as that wonder doesn't exist? Similar to how I can't target PV.

This question is... difficult to answer.

Hagia Sophia does not

target

a wonder, it specifies one as part of the action submission. It

targets

a player, one who must be alive.

[PeregrineV]

Updated

Alisae-confirmed took neighboring Wonder day1

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N1 Titus hydra
N2 JaeReed hydra
N3 Pine/Caesar
N4 I think I read NoticeSenpai/Jaerred hydra again

Nero Cain- (claims VT) none day1, day2, day3, day4
MathBlade- claims took useless wonder
Leonshade- claims VT, tried to build Petra-tracker day2. Tried to build Cop day3.
Gorkington- (claims VT) (Creature claims he was roleblocked on night3) Refuses to claim day1, day2, day3, day4 build attempts.
Creature- claims took Roleblocker day3 (Dave claims night3 same role as Max)
RadiantCowbells- claimed GreatWall day3 build- then retracted claim- tried to build Pyramids day1

Caesar Wills It- (claimed VT) prob town via Max- probably night3 target, claims Forbidden Palace If built by town, at any time during the day, you may call upon the moderator to publicly confirm your alignment. If built by non-town, once per game during the day phase, you may target a single player to make any build request they submit for that day automatically fail. was not built day4 despite attempting to build it.

Lil Uzi Vert- (claims VT)-claims nobuild day1 & day2 & day3 & day4
Vecna- (claims Sophia Redirector)- claims Stonehednge attmpt day1, claims nobuild day2, Sophia day3, noaction night3, Nancy night4
CloudKicker

davesaz- claims Parity cop taken day3, got it over KidAdm, Leonshade, claims nobuild day1 & day2

NoticeMeSenpai or JaeReed (which one is it?)
nancy- (claims VT) Claims attempt to build day1 wonder Mausoleum on day2, no day1 claim, no day3, no day4 claim (or claim of no build by inference)

with Gork refusal

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You only have two town reads PV lol

[Nero Cain]

that's alot of IFs....

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Techicanlly it doesn't specify alive or dead player on the Wonder description but I think whatever Vecna did is possible

[PeregrineV]

In civ games when a civ dies the wonder dies (except civ 6 sometimes) so can Hagia Sophia target a dead wonder as that wonder doesn't exist? Similar to how I can't target PV.

Can you target me?

I already asked the mod after your Pyramids shit I can't.

Did Leon claim attempting to build parity cop before or after Dave claimed he had it?

[MathBlade]

In civ games when a civ dies the wonder dies (except civ 6 sometimes) so can Hagia Sophia target a dead wonder as that wonder doesn't exist? Similar to how I can't target PV.

This question is... difficult to answer.

Hagia Sophia does not

target

a wonder, it specifies one as part of the action submission. It

targets

a player, one who must be alive.

Then the wonder has to exist right...Player is dead wonder doesn't exist? Aka no effect

[Vecna]

Why were you doubting if Creature would RB you?

Because I was scumreading him yesterday?

And? Why did you doubt that he had RB'd someone or would RB you? If you were scum reading him, wouldn't that make you more likely to believe that he would?

No, since yesterday we didnt have Maxous flip.....

So he very well couldve roleblocked Davesaz instead, denying us the investigation.

Ofcourse today that no longer makes sense with the nightkill + flip, but it did yesterday.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Like I could easily seeing the mod getting Vecna's submission and not realizing he submitted a dead player's name but eh

[PeregrineV]

You only have two town reads PV lol

Nah, this is info collecting right now. No more reads until I get all the infos.

[PeregrineV]

In civ games when a civ dies the wonder dies (except civ 6 sometimes) so can Hagia Sophia target a dead wonder as that wonder doesn't exist? Similar to how I can't target PV.

This question is... difficult to answer.

Hagia Sophia does not

target

a wonder, it specifies one as part of the action submission. It

targets

a player, one who must be alive.

Then the wonder has to exist right...Player is dead wonder doesn't exist? Aka no effect

Except the pyramids do. I am dead inside of them.

[nancy]

Like Notice I am actually willing at this point to just put you as Town because if the scumteam is SOMEHOW you MathBlade and whatever then we're fucked anyway and we're basically fucked as it is so banking on this is probably our best shot at winning.

Gorkington is Town because it makes no fucking sense for scum to come in today and suddenly bus one of their own after the kill getting docced or to let a lynch go through on him when they already have a vice grip on this game. Like basically as soon as we get one scumflip in this game the dominoes just fall.

Here you go nancy.

You said scum weren't bussing yesterday.

So either you are wrong and Gorkington can be scum or you are wrong now.

That was way early in the day when I still had my head up my ass, before RC replaced in and I fixed my reads. And yes, I think Gorkington is very likely scum, as I have already stated since.

[MathBlade]

In civ games when a civ dies the wonder dies (except civ 6 sometimes) so can Hagia Sophia target a dead wonder as that wonder doesn't exist? Similar to how I can't target PV.

This question is... difficult to answer.

Hagia Sophia does not

target

a wonder, it specifies one as part of the action submission. It

targets

a player, one who must be alive.

Then the wonder has to exist right...Player is dead wonder doesn't exist? Aka no effect

Except the pyramids do. I am dead inside of them.

That exception is noted in the wonder.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Cloud or RC aren't going to claim I think.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Mod you said player, like that should take into account the dead too. It is very possible to loophole you there.