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Post Post #16150 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:31 am

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In post 16147, MathBlade wrote:mastina because doc is an excellent teaching role. You not only have to sit and explain who you are doing, you have to crumb well and you have to analyze everyone and try to find the kills. It generates discussion and with mastina being busy (if JaeReed isn't lying about that) she can ask thought provoking questions which she did a lot of of as town in SU2.

Then mastina can help without having to read everything and get JaeReed to work on cases something JaeReed before this game began told me they wanted to work on.
I guess I could buy this.
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Post Post #16151 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:31 am

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In post 14380, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 13859, Leonshade wrote:The idea that Maxous was a manipulative kill is really hard for me to believe. Even if Creature is somehow scum with davesaz or Vecna, killing Maxous for the sake of read manipulation or confusion wouldn't be worth it. If Creature + one other is scum, it's better to keep Maxous alive to either keep suspicion off the scum, or keep suspicion on Maxous.

So Maxous being killed as a result of doc hunting makes sense, and I think scum had a really good grasp on who the doc was due to the claims plus scum member PoE.
In post 13860, Vecna wrote:^ good post, allthough you couldve made it as scum as well. but keep em coming and I might start showing you some more love again.

Theres something more going on though........But I probably really shouldnt speculate on that.

I think I got what you meant there btw Alisae - with you not wanting to discuss it.
Really not a good post.
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Post Post #16152 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:31 am

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I don't really want to though lol
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Post Post #16153 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:32 am

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Ok, post claims reads:

Town:
Vecna
Mathblade
Gorkington
Luv


Most likely town:
Alisae
Notice
Creature
Davesaz


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Nero Cain
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Post Post #16154 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:33 am

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In post 16143, RadiantCowbells wrote:no your 'evidence' is the result of you falsely townreading people who don't deserve to be townread
What do you mean by this? Davesaz?
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Post Post #16155 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:33 am

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Why is Gork town?
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Post Post #16156 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:34 am

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In post 16152, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't really want to though lol
That's the problem. I've been fighting people who don't want to buy things. They have an idea of what is "right".

They wanted Sondam to be scum. If you don't "want" to buy it and that's the only reason you need to reevaluate. There's literally 100s of pages of evidence. Want isn't good enough LUV.

Notice is the doc and very likely the town!Doc.

Pedit: Improving scum pool Vecna. Now apply VCA to that and see who scum likely are. I wholeheartedly disagree on LUV and Gorkington but the most likely town makes sense.

Sell me on reasons why LUV and Gorkington are likely town post claims.
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Post Post #16157 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:36 am

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TBF, Sondam was a comprimise lynch after I failed to lynch Dave wich is a good thing as he's prob town.
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Post Post #16158 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:37 am

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but at the same time Math, you aren't willing to budge or buy into things so?
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Post Post #16159 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:37 am

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In post 16155, Creature wrote:Why is Gork town?
He has done a lot of posting recently that I find extremely town, both from a content perspective, a tone perspective and a meta perspective.

He was also being very sharp about Nancy before I could even see it. You could say it was bussing I guess, but I dont think so. (in before people complain about pre-flip reasoning).
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Post Post #16160 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:38 am

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There are other reasons to scum read Notice, Math. It is not just about the crumbs. I work based on intuition and logic. I have to understand the why and see if it checks. I don't see Jae being as experienced as they are protecting Alisae.
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Post Post #16161 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:38 am

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In post 16159, Vecna wrote:both from a content perspective, a tone perspective and a meta perspective.
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Post Post #16162 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:39 am

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In post 16157, Nero Cain wrote:TBF, Sondam was a comprimise lynch after I failed to lynch Dave wich is a good thing as he's prob town.

LOL And I had Dave as a hard town read :P

Do you see why I keep thinking your scum after saying you're 100% right now Nero?

Because you're not you just haven't been on the wagons. Posts like this that are factually correct will weaken my scumread.

Scum lie because they have to in a mechanics heavy set up or have to be good enough to construct entire worlds where they don't have to.

Pedit: Nero, why budge when I've been right on every townread so far? I won't budge on my townreads but I budge on scum ones quite often actually in thread. (e.g. I was working to do Kid or you yesterday and have multiple examples)

I don't ever budge on hard town reads. Scum I am flexible on.
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Post Post #16163 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:41 am

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In post 16160, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:There are other reasons to scum read Notice, Math. It is not just about the crumbs. I work based on intuition and logic. I have to understand the why and see if it checks. I don't see Jae being as experienced as they are protecting Alisae.
I do because BaeReed likes town blocks. BaeReed knew I trusted Alisae so it'd form a town block. Absolutely buy the Alisae protect here LUV.

Just like with Dave there are certain people I just simply will not ever vote and I'm publishing that list before hammers.
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Post Post #16164 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:41 am

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In post 10349, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
While I'm alive Alisae will not get killed
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Taken from full context but it's clear what they're softing.

Notice probably protects Ali because they consider Ali locktown (and Ali has the neighbor wonder).
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Post Post #16165 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:41 am

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In post 16162, MathBlade wrote:Do you see why I keep thinking your scum after saying you're 100% right now Nero?
Where did I ever say this?
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Post Post #16166 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:41 am

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Btw, all my MOST LIKELY TOWN people could also be scum together, but if thats the case, theyre scum in pairs (Dave + Creature) (Alisae + Notice)
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Post Post #16167 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:42 am

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I don't like town blocks but BaeReed DOES. So from BaeReed's perspective protecting Alisae makes sense especially with time being less and Alisae being able to make a chat outside of scum's perview.
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Post Post #16168 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:42 am

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Meanwhile, why is Alisae town again?
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Post Post #16169 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:43 am

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In post 16165, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 16162, MathBlade wrote:Do you see why I keep thinking your scum after saying you're 100% right now Nero?
Where did I ever say this?
"Look at me! I was never on a mislynch!" "Look at me I've been right all along" (Paraphrases)
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Post Post #16170 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:43 am

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It doesn't mean when they claim to know how they play.
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Post Post #16171 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:43 am

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If you can convince me Alisae is not endgame fodder at times, I will drop it.
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Post Post #16172 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:43 am

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In post 16168, Creature wrote:Meanwhile, why is Alisae town again?
Halicarnassus D1 without the ability to talk with scum and only able to build one wonder the entire game for starters.
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Post Post #16173 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:44 am

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I'm not taking into account Jae's meta, I'm talking Alisae's.
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Post Post #16174 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:44 am

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And Jae being close to Alisae.
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