Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

probably being a little unfair because rc is at least trying to explain himself.

no he's not. He hasn't given any reasoning why he thought I was scum. He's hoping that he can use FORCE in the place of REASON.

[Nero Cain]

Nero Cain
MathBlade
Gorkington
Creature
Caesar Wills It
CloudKicker
davesaz
NoticeMeSenpai
^^^
town


Vecna
nancy
RadiantCowbells
Leonshade
Alisae/Lil Uzi Vert
^^^^
scum

[Nero Cain]

Math the thing is you refuse to believe your reads are wrong so any team that isn't the team you think it is is going to be "wrong" to you.

[nancy]

me/luv taking vig, nancy/leon taking big ben, and caesar going for rolestopper, sure

This, except I go for priority. Keep in mind if there is more than 1 Town in the vig pool we basically autolose.

When we can prove scum took neighborizer there is a 0% chance of you not being lynched because then we know scum don't have the first vig as I know suspect they don't.

Stop being survivalistic.

Name the scum team.

I'm still catching up btw, not totally up to date on thread. If you want me to guess at the scumteam, I can.


{Aslan, Caesar, Cowbells, Leonshade, MathBlade, Notice, PV} - locktown
{Creature, Vecna}
{}
{} - null
{Gorkington}
{}
{CK, davesaz, LUV, Nero} - lockscum

One of my Towns might be scum. Creature would be the likeliest candidate, if I had to pick one.

My best guess at a team: {CK, davesaz, Gorkington, LUV, Nero}

[MathBlade]

Why would that team give two conf towns in Creature and Maxous nancy?

[nancy]

Math, just talk to me. Stop for a second and pull yourself out of your narrative and talk to me.

About?

About the game. About your read on me. Whatever you need to help you see what you're missing here.

[Nero Cain]

Whats your scum case on me now? Like at the end of the day it was "RC is scum and bussing Nero" so what is it now?

[nancy]

Why would that team give two conf towns in Creature and Maxous nancy?

I don't know, and that's why I had davesaz as locktown before. But Creature is so far from his scum meta here that I don't know who else to put in there. I'm working off my locktowns and I'm finding it really hard to see scum!Vecna.

[Nero Cain]

I'm working off my locktowns and I'm finding it really hard to see scum!Vecna.

Senpai says this is Creatures town meta...

[nancy]

Whats your scum case on me now? Like at the end of the day it was "RC is scum and bussing Nero" so what is it now?

The Maxous kill made me realize I was wrong in several places. RC's play today also makes absolute zero sense as scum. If there's one read I would bank this entire game on, it's town!RC. I was wrong about LUV being Town, I was wrong about your AtE flipout, and that's the only reason I was TRing you.

[Nero Cain]

RC seems to be playing the same way he did before when you were scumreading him and saying it was his scum game.

[MathBlade]

Why would that team give two conf towns in Creature and Maxous nancy?

I don't know, and that's why I had davesaz as locktown before. But Creature is so far from his scum meta here that I don't know who else to put in there. I'm working off my locktowns and I'm finding it really hard to see scum!Vecna.

If you are putting a logically Town read as scum then would you think you are wrong somewhere?

Ignore for a second interactions.

Write out your logically Town.

Put down who is left.

[MathBlade]

Who is your "logically Town" nancy?

[Nero Cain]

Any scumteams with me and Dave and Creature are complete shit.

[MathBlade]

Nero Cain
MathBlade
Gorkington
Creature
Caesar Wills It
CloudKicker
davesaz
NoticeMeSenpai
^^^
town


Vecna
nancy
RadiantCowbells
Leonshade
Alisae/Lil Uzi Vert
^^^^
scum

Why are Gorkington and Caesar and Cloudkicker town?

[RadiantCowbells]

Whats your scum case on me now? Like at the end of the day it was "RC is scum and bussing Nero" so what is it now?

The Maxous kill made me realize I was wrong in several places. RC's play today also makes absolute zero sense as scum. If there's one read I would bank this entire game on, it's town!RC. I was wrong about LUV being Town, I was wrong about your AtE flipout, and that's the only reason I was TRing you.

<3

But if you're scum pocketing me I will never trust you ever

[MathBlade]

Any scumteams with me and Dave and Creature are complete shit.

I agree with this and it was a consensus yesterday.

[nancy]

Gork if you are somehow Town and you actually somehow feel good about your SR on me then you need to rethink this game. Tell me why scum!me would come in and WK the fuck out of you at like L-2 when your ML would've ended the day extremely early and given Town zero information. The only possible way for me to be scum is with you.

talk at me about this nancy.
like.

im really trying to think about how your play and your claim can reconcile with you being town here.
and i can kind of see a way for the latter,
but not really the former.

like, talk at me about what about my play made you think that i was snowing you?
specifics would be ideal.
help me understand where that read was coming from.

You feel like coasting scum, and your comment about me lynching you just felt like scum who thinks it's on the verge of winning the game. And unless I'm wrong on one or more of my Towns, I don't know where else to fit you except as scum. Does that answer your question?

[nancy]

Whats your scum case on me now? Like at the end of the day it was "RC is scum and bussing Nero" so what is it now?

The Maxous kill made me realize I was wrong in several places. RC's play today also makes absolute zero sense as scum. If there's one read I would bank this entire game on, it's town!RC. I was wrong about LUV being Town, I was wrong about your AtE flipout, and that's the only reason I was TRing you.

<3

But if you're scum pocketing me I will never trust you ever

You know better than anyone that this can't be my scumgame.

[Gorkington]

i feel like its kind of an exaggeration to say that im coasting?
like
my early play sure, but i dont feel like that makes sense at this point?

i guess it makes sense in context of you having a lot of townreads, im just really confused why i dropped to your lowest read
when youre establishing now that you have stronger reads now?
zzzzz

[Nero Cain]

I think Caesar and Cloud are lynchbait. There was a thing too like on d1 or d2 of whenever where someone asked Pine to stop posting in his roleplay and he was like "no" and that gave me some towny vibes. Gork is gut.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think that you are.

[nancy]

I've played more games with RC than any other player. I've played marathon games with him where I was scum and he saw through it instantly because I just suck, I cannot fake emotion, I cannot fake scumhunting, I just suck.

[Nero Cain]

You know better than anyone that this can't be my scumgame.

Didn't you say you had no scum games? How would RC know your scum game?

[nancy]

Any scumteams with me and Dave and Creature are complete shit.

I agree with this and it was a consensus yesterday.

Maybe I'm wrong on dave. It's mostly PoE that puts him there. I really have nowhere else to look with so many locktowns. But I'm not wrong on Nero.