In post 16522, nancy wrote: In post 16486, MathBlade wrote: In post 16482, nancy wrote:
I don't know, and that's why I had davesaz as locktown before. But Creature is so far from his scum meta here that I don't know who else to put in there. I'm working off my locktowns and I'm finding it really hard to see scum!Vecna.
If you are putting a logically Town read as scum then would you think you are wrong somewhere?
Ignore for a second interactions.
Write out your logically Town.
Put down who is left.
RC cannot be scum because scum!RC simply does not ever whiteknight me like this when lynching me very likely wins the game for scum. Scum!RC also doesn't replace in and tunnel one slot and only one slot. So RC is Town. Aslan is Town because I believe that I can read their game. Caesar is Town depending on whether LUV is Town because he has been pushing LUV and if LUV is scum then Caesar cannot be scum given Caesar's anti-bus stance. You are Town because of what happened with the hydra and Titus's replace out. PV is Town because it's the simplest answer in a game where scum haven't been bussing at all it doesn't make sense that they would kill one of their own, even though if PV hadn't been killed I would be SRing the slot by it's content.
Notice is Town because every single time I have tested them by scumreading them, they have OMGUS SRed me and I haven't felt that their emotion in that was faked. They pulled off a Leonshade lynch simply due to OMGUS. I don't believe that scum!Notice makes that play. Leonshade is Town because of the way that there has been no pressure on Leonshade at all today. Scum have been picking mislynches and they picked Leonshade yesterday. Same as they picked ABR/Vecna. Same as they've picked me today.
As far as Vecna goes, there's so much stuff he's done this game that is really really bizarre but there are just things about his play that I really struggle to reconcile coming from scum. The way he was pushing so hard for a Leonshade lynch near EoD yesterday, for instance. For Vecna to be scum he has to basically believe that he is completely invincible this game and has to be a complete show-off and braggart. He also just seems so confused a lot of the time, even if there are glimmers occasionally to the contrary.
I don't have a reason to TR Creature except the meta I've been given and the parity result. If davesaz is Town, then unless Vecna is scum then Creature is Town. But I'm not convinced that davesaz is Town. He hasn't been around. He hasn't done anything to help Town. I have no reason at all to TR him except just believing his claim.
Logically speaking if davesaz is scum then Creature would also be scum. If that were the case, I would pull Gorkington out of the scumteam and put Creature in there. CK I know wouldn't be voting me right now, he knows what my scumgame looks like better than nearly anyone here and he also knows my Town game pretty well. I have no way to reconcile that with town!CK. LUV, as I've stated, has behaved towards me as if he knows I'm Town despite claiming to scumread me. He's also voted yae to resolutions that would clearly favor scum.
Oh man, fuck you scum if you took the great zimbabwe just to be able to frame someone and got THIS lucky that it turned out to be nancy, in this scenario.
If thats the case, Davesaz is like 99% in on it for just happening to have investigated Nero + Nancy.
This post just screams town to me so incredibly hard. How the fuck do scum even start to make that much of a detailed read on my slot?
I mean I can see it, since if nancy is scum, RC is scum - and he definately has identified ill be the lynchpin today - but......ugh.