Try and reason it the other way (not that I think this is at all possible).In post 16588, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:Vecna.In post 16581, MathBlade wrote:I can review this but it makes much more sense Vecna+LUV together.
However assume I am wrong and only one is scum. Which?
Hmm too bad, Mastina would know wrt me.In post 16592, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:mastina won't give me more reads. She helped out with my first doc protect and the wonder choice but that was it really as far as giving me a hand out. Most of the answers I get if I try to prise anything more from her are variations of a reminder that I begged her to not give me a free pass at the start of the game because it won't help me learn.In post 16590, MathBlade wrote:Who does mastina think is more likely scum? Nero or nancy?In post 16588, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:Vecna.In post 16581, MathBlade wrote:I can review this but it makes much more sense Vecna+LUV together.
However assume I am wrong and only one is scum. Which?
Who do you think and why?
Where do you disagree and why?
Nero has a lot of bad reasonings at times that can be reminiscent of bad town or bad scum, but as I said earlier I kind of thought he'd be more lurky as scum. nancy keeps pushing people I'm sure are town and flopping all over the place from hard townreading them to hard scumreading them. If one flips scum the other is conftown I think (so long as nancy HAS been hard pushing Nero) but it doesn't necessarily work in the opposite way that a townflip scumfirms the other.
Given that, I think it's more likely nancy would be town out of the two, since town are more likely to flail with reads and paranoia throughout the game than scum are? Scum can fake paranoia over a slot but nancy is all over the place in a Fro99er-esque manner? Whereas with Nero both town and scum can have bad reasoning and it can be hard to distinguish between the two at times.
And you didnt think this was suspicious, given the fact PV ended up dead?In post 16597, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:Which is why I thought scum had Hanging Gardens tbh, since Fro99er was a bit of a no brainer I think? He was the most widely townread and willing to work with others even if he was all over the place.
My experience with PV is he doesn't get nightkilled early in the game but rather left for a lategame mislynch or nightkill. (Shadorun, Undertale) I really wasn't thinking of him as a viable protect given that, though Ali reamed me somewhat on not protecting PV when I claimed to him.
Kyouko wouldn't have died because he was being pushed on, he was lynchbait, so there's no point in protecting him there imo. I don't remember him ever having good reads in my mini normal either tbh. Him and Creature would have been seen as mislynchable, where Caesar I would have thought could normally put up a fight against his lynch. Once I realized he was seen as mislynchable as well I moved on to the obvtown neighborizer protect. I'm still not entirely sure Pine was targeted over Ali tbh. Unless scum got fed up with him not getting mislynched and decided to off him that way instead?
Anyway fair warning, my grandmother was in a place hit by a cyclone recently, tore roofs off houses and such, so I might end up V/LA since when we managed to get her on the phone just now she broke down... I might fly up to see if there's anything I can do once they allow flights there again. I'll announce it here if/when it happens and PM the mod but yeah.
Also, gl with the grandmother situation, thats rough.In post 16597, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:Which is why I thought scum had Hanging Gardens tbh, since Fro99er was a bit of a no brainer I think? He was the most widely townread and willing to work with others even if he was all over the place.
My experience with PV is he doesn't get nightkilled early in the game but rather left for a lategame mislynch or nightkill. (Shadorun, Undertale) I really wasn't thinking of him as a viable protect given that, though Ali reamed me somewhat on not protecting PV when I claimed to him.
Kyouko wouldn't have died because he was being pushed on, he was lynchbait, so there's no point in protecting him there imo. I don't remember him ever having good reads in my mini normal either tbh. Him and Creature would have been seen as mislynchable, where Caesar I would have thought could normally put up a fight against his lynch. Once I realized he was seen as mislynchable as well I moved on to the obvtown neighborizer protect. I'm still not entirely sure Pine was targeted over Ali tbh. Unless scum got fed up with him not getting mislynched and decided to off him that way instead?
Anyway fair warning, my grandmother was in a place hit by a cyclone recently, tore roofs off houses and such, so I might end up V/LA since when we managed to get her on the phone just now she broke down... I might fly up to see if there's anything I can do once they allow flights there again. I'll announce it here if/when it happens and PM the mod but yeah.
What obvious reasons?In post 16777, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I can't be on a scum team with Cloud for obvious reasons, for the record.
I promise to poke questions at nancy to try to reevaluate my read of her and hammer Nero as promised so we get a plan from Vecna and can tweak it as needed. Deal?In post 16782, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't think you need daychat to stop wagons on scum and I don't think that scum have been wagoned a lot.
Lynch Nero with me leave nancy alone and you have my vote tomorrow. Deal?
Cloud would not be interacting with me the way he has been doing if we were scum together. Period.In post 16785, nancy wrote:What obvious reasons?In post 16777, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I can't be on a scum team with Cloud for obvious reasons, for the record.
Between this and Drixx it painted a huge PV is scum beacon to me.In post 16783, Vecna wrote:And you didnt think this was suspicious, given the fact PV ended up dead?In post 16597, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:Which is why I thought scum had Hanging Gardens tbh, since Fro99er was a bit of a no brainer I think? He was the most widely townread and willing to work with others even if he was all over the place.
My experience with PV is he doesn't get nightkilled early in the game but rather left for a lategame mislynch or nightkill. (Shadorun, Undertale) I really wasn't thinking of him as a viable protect given that, though Ali reamed me somewhat on not protecting PV when I claimed to him.
Kyouko wouldn't have died because he was being pushed on, he was lynchbait, so there's no point in protecting him there imo. I don't remember him ever having good reads in my mini normal either tbh. Him and Creature would have been seen as mislynchable, where Caesar I would have thought could normally put up a fight against his lynch. Once I realized he was seen as mislynchable as well I moved on to the obvtown neighborizer protect. I'm still not entirely sure Pine was targeted over Ali tbh. Unless scum got fed up with him not getting mislynched and decided to off him that way instead?
Anyway fair warning, my grandmother was in a place hit by a cyclone recently, tore roofs off houses and such, so I might end up V/LA since when we managed to get her on the phone just now she broke down... I might fly up to see if there's anything I can do once they allow flights there again. I'll announce it here if/when it happens and PM the mod but yeah.
Noted.In post 16787, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not going to follow you on nancy and I'm going to do my best to prevent any such wagon.
Elaborate..?In post 16788, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Cloud would not be interacting with me the way he has been doing if we were scum together. Period.In post 16785, nancy wrote:What obvious reasons?In post 16777, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I can't be on a scum team with Cloud for obvious reasons, for the record.
I will not. Just trust me here.In post 16792, nancy wrote:Elaborate..?In post 16788, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Cloud would not be interacting with me the way he has been doing if we were scum together. Period.In post 16785, nancy wrote:What obvious reasons?In post 16777, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I can't be on a scum team with Cloud for obvious reasons, for the record.
I think I did? I don't think you and LUV could be scum together because I don't think LUV would allow you to meta clear him like that and draw that associate. Not without taking the chance to distance off it, at least. If LUV is scum (ass backwards as that would make my reads) then I don't think you are scum with him.In post 16775, Vecna wrote:Try and reason it the other way (not that I think this is at all possible).In post 16588, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:Vecna.In post 16581, MathBlade wrote:I can review this but it makes much more sense Vecna+LUV together.
However assume I am wrong and only one is scum. Which?
What if ive been wrong about it all along. If luv is scum, does that make me scum by default?
This actually makes sense for Alisae. In code Geass, those neighbourhoods were heavily influencing his actions and even the scum-read attack he had on me were a result of his neighbourhood talks there.In post 16625, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yes but read the last sentence of that paragraph.In post 16622, MathBlade wrote:What about this? Do you think A&N were going for neighborizer here?In post 473, Akane and Nebby wrote:I will have a neighborhood one way or another, because I am terrible without it and my reads are out of whack, hence I need neighborhood to catch scum. You know this too. You want me to give you scum? Then let me have someone to tell me what to do who isn't scum themselves and you shall have it.
- Akane
Took you a while to bring it up. I have no reason to trust you.In post 16793, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I will not. Just trust me here.
IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS.In post 16637, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:I also take offense to this ftr.In post 16613, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Claimed actions seem very suspect to me.In post 16612, MathBlade wrote:And what about Alisae and Senpai?In post 16611, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Role doesn't confirm alignment but yes I think Creature and Dave are most likely town.
You would have protected lynchbait number 1 and 2. You have no right to criticize my doc protects considering I very likely stopped a kill on Ali.
I don't want to get annoyed again so I purposely did not.In post 16796, nancy wrote:Took you a while to bring it up. I have no reason to trust you.In post 16793, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I will not. Just trust me here.