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Post Post #16950 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:36 am

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No but scum might've thought it was inevitable and deem Leon the best candidate until Kid wagon got traction.
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Post Post #16951 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:40 am

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In post 16936, Nero Cain wrote:I have a question for Senpai. If the logic is that scum shot at Ali b/c they were afraid of him using the hood like in PYP, it implies that scum were in PYP. So who played in PYP and would fear this hood usage?
I have not once mentioned PYP. I haven't read nor even so much as glanced at that game. I have no intention to. Most I'll do is skim an ISO for a general feel on tone or if someone directs me to look for something in particular.

What I /did/ mention was In Memory and Shadowrun. Both PT heavy games. Both had a huge influence on plays in the day phase.
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Post Post #16952 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:40 am

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Reason why he brought up PyP was because hoods was towns down fall.
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Post Post #16953 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:41 am

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Like Nero if I accept the most likely than I'm left with those 5. If I'm wrong on nancy it has to be you or PV.
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Post Post #16954 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:42 am

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oh ok. I must have gotten them mixed up b/c I remember a bunch of talk of some PYP game but the question still stands. Who is the scum that shot at Alisae for fear of him using the hoods?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #16955 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:43 am

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I don't believe Cloud or Leon would kill their own. Pine might but he clearly doesn't seem too invested so I don't think he would try such a gambit and not really oversee if it goes well. I don't know Gork at all.
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Post Post #16956 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:44 am

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In post 16937, Nero Cain wrote:I feel like everyone is too small to admit they could be wrong on town reads. Its pretty pathetic.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #16957 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:47 am

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like its prob a Nancy/Vecna/RC/Leon/???? team but I don't think I can convince anyone and no one is mature enough to go "oh hey I'm wrong!"
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Post Post #16958 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:49 am

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I haven't been small lol.

I talked to Alisae. I talked to Jae. I don't want to rehash because I feel I went too far and it is just better to accept the likelihood that they are both town.

I already went into why the Hagia Sofia thing is a NAI thing for Vecna but that Red Fort theory is too left field for scum to try and pass.
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Post Post #16959 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:50 am

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In post 16942, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:-Snipped-
Was there any point in quoting a bunch of VC's and not saying anything about them?
A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community
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Post Post #16960 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:51 am

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But your theory of why scum couldn't all be lurkers if we look back, town have pushed all the mislynches. Kyouko and Leon had scummy hops. Ceasar arguable too.
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Post Post #16961 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:51 am

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In post 16959, davesaz wrote:
In post 16942, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:-Snipped-
Was there any point in quoting a bunch of VC's and not saying anything about them?
It was for Nero to look at.

I don't do well with data so I did half the work for him.
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Post Post #16962 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:55 am

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I'll see how I feel about Caesar after the data work but he alone makes the most sense as lurker scum.
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edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #16963 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:56 am

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Kyouko and Leon were lurking hard early too though.
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Post Post #16964 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:57 am

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It's not far fetched to think it could all be lurkers.

If you're scum it's a classic caught for the wrong reasons thing.
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Post Post #16965 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:58 am

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yeah Leon is scum but I really don't think Cloud is scum. Like SSBM lurked hard in Timeshift so SSBM lurking here is NAI for me.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #16966 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:58 am

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In post 16954, Nero Cain wrote:oh ok. I must have gotten them mixed up b/c I remember a bunch of talk of some PYP game but the question still stands. Who is the scum that shot at Alisae for fear of him using the hoods?
Uh In Memory had RC as mod
Math as townblock
Me as townblock
Ali as townblock
Creature as townblock
Yume (Akane) as outside townblock but town

Shadowrun had
Math as scum
Me as town with Math using me as a puppet
Titus as mod
Yume as town doc
PeregrineV as town backup doc
ABR as town speeder upper (could make any action skip to the top of NAR)
Drixx as something that infiltrated night PT missions things
Myself as some VT equivalent tbh because I used my role poorly I think and fullclaimed to scum....but I made Math speak replacing all pronouns with "The Great and Powerful Trixie" so it was worth it :D



But like... You're assuming people had to have been in those two games to know how devastating hoods can be when used correctly. I've been in games prior where hoods could have been used to devastating effect. Hell, it's the reason I had one in the mini normal I modded. I love hoods. They're all about whether people want to use them to full effect or not and that's what makes them either complete washes or dangerous shit.
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Post Post #16967 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:01 am

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I'm not scum though and it should be obvious that I'm not scum given the cases on me are all "scum is bussing Nero" "lets lynch Nero so town can gell again" "DON'T LET NERO GET THE VIG!"`fear mongering
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Post Post #16968 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:04 am

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Anything I missed?
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Post Post #16969 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:04 am

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Who's the current wagon?
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Post Post #16970 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:04 am

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The problem at this point is that it has come to down to PoE for a lot of people. If you aren't scum and nancy isn't scum, it literally has to be PV.
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Post Post #16971 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:05 am

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Its still the same though I am in the lead now.
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Post Post #16972 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:05 am

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Oh right, Nero's the highest wagon (again).
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Post Post #16973 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:06 am

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I played with scum Dave and he just doesn't gambit like this as at all.
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Post Post #16974 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:07 am

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Everyone that I've listed as town just now won't get lynched anytime soon.
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