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Post Post #17275 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:50 am

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His play isn't different between the games and you can keep saying that straw man but you're going to keep being ignored.

Nero is scum and he's getting lynched today. Town is going to assume from now on that you are scum. If you want that not to be the case then stop fucking defending scum and do something useful.
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Post Post #17276 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:51 am

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In post 17273, MathBlade wrote:You lost Shadowrun PV :P Booo gaslighting bad. XD
I did. Not sure what you mean here, except that you were scum that game.
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Post Post #17277 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:52 am

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In post 17275, RadiantCowbells wrote:His play isn't different between the games and you can keep saying that straw man but you're going to keep being ignored.

Nero is scum and he's getting lynched today. Town is going to assume from now on that you are scum. If you want that not to be the case then stop fucking defending scum and do something useful.
If PV turns out to be scum like I've been saying since Day Three can I has respect from you RC in future games?
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Post Post #17278 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:52 am

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In post 17276, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 17273, MathBlade wrote:You lost Shadowrun PV :P Booo gaslighting bad. XD
I did. Not sure what you mean here, except that you were scum that game.
You said you won that game. False statement.
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Post Post #17279 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:56 am

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In post 17275, RadiantCowbells wrote:His play isn't different between the games and you can keep saying that straw man but you're going to keep being ignored.

Nero is scum and he's getting lynched today. Town is going to assume from now on that you are scum. If you want that not to be the case then stop fucking defending scum and do something useful.
I like it when someone thinks I'm scum. It probably means they are scum.

You don't see a difference in the play?

You can't give a reason for your townread on nancy. Or your scumread on Nero.

Last game you scumread anyone that scumread you.

You are giving nothing to work with, and expect to be listened to anyway.

It doesn't work like that.

Try again.
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Post Post #17280 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:57 am

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Say what you want. Nero will get lynched, he will flip scum, you will be ignored and treated as scum for the rest of the game and if you're actually town then I'll point to this game any time you try to get a read taken seriously.
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Post Post #17281 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:58 am

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In post 15977, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 15963, MathBlade wrote:
In post 15957, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pere if you're town you're god awful at this game and your shit tier reads in timeshift prove it. no one gives a fuck what your opinion is
One shit game does not a bad Town make.

One good game does not a good Town make.

PV has mostly good reads in games I am with him on. When scum against PV I have to work extra hard to contain him.
It's OK, I won that game.

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Post Post #17282 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:00 am

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In post 7849, MathBlade wrote:Alisae -- Town
Nero Cain -- Pushing Town derp or scum
Yuri -- scum lean
MathBlade -- Confused town
Leonshade -- Town
Elbirn -- ???
Creature -- possibly scum ??
Brian Skies -- Town
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Lil Uzi Vert -- Scum maybe??? Unsure
Vecna -- wtf??
ssbm -- Town by gut -- Will miss ssbm
dave -- maybe scum ??
Maxous -- Town by meta at start but is returning to Undertale voting patterns only if scum with Sondam.
Sondam -- Did town meta at start. Only way I see them as scum is with So dam which I find doubtful.
Senpai -- Buddying maybe? I wish I had a good read here.
nancy -- ditto

@PV repeating what I say doesn't mean you'll get a different answer from RC.

@RC lookie I had these reads on Day three.

Maxous Town maxous now confirmed town.
Sondam Town sondam confirmed town.
Senpai/nancy I waffled on.
SSBM May just be town due to my earlier gut townread.
Vecna/LUV scum
Creature changed to be a townread because of dave.
Dave changed to be a meta town read a short bit later which caused Creature to be.
Yuri was only a lean.

Seriously. Please...Talk with me about LUV's reaction to Vecna's plan and how PV and Nero have been consistently trying to shade me. All game LONG.
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Post Post #17283 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:00 am

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In post 17281, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 15977, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 15963, MathBlade wrote:
In post 15957, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pere if you're town you're god awful at this game and your shit tier reads in timeshift prove it. no one gives a fuck what your opinion is
One shit game does not a bad Town make.

One good game does not a good Town make.

PV has mostly good reads in games I am with him on. When scum against PV I have to work extra hard to contain him.
It's OK, I won that game.

@Radiant-
Nero was scum that game, and you were town. His game is markedly different here, so how are you now scumreadign him?
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Post Post #17284 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:01 am

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In post 17280, RadiantCowbells wrote:Say what you want. Nero will get lynched, he will flip scum, you will be ignored and treated as scum for the rest of the game and if you're actually town then I'll point to this game any time you try to get a read taken seriously.


I have played hundreds of games. You may do that with any of them.

So how about you address my other issues with your lack of reasoning and your unrealistic expectations that we should just listen to you?
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Post Post #17285 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:01 am

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In post 17267, PeregrineV wrote:Is there 1 case on Nero, or 4 cases? I would like to read and evaluate them.
Well, after the Kid mislynch yesterday Nancy claimed that RC was scum and was bussing me. Today both Leon and Ali are sheeping that theory. Then when I said I wanted the vig to shoot RC Nancy was like "oh we can't let Nero get the vig" And I think Vecna wants me dead to buddy Math. I mean his words are that he wants to get town to gel again but he's just really buddying Math. And LUV wants to sheep RC b/c "reputation"
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Post Post #17286 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:03 am

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In post 17283, MathBlade wrote:
In post 17281, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 15977, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 15963, MathBlade wrote:
In post 15957, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pere if you're town you're god awful at this game and your shit tier reads in timeshift prove it. no one gives a fuck what your opinion is
One shit game does not a bad Town make.

One good game does not a good Town make.

PV has mostly good reads in games I am with him on. When scum against PV I have to work extra hard to contain him.
It's OK, I won that game.


@Radiant-
Nero was scum that game, and you were town. His game is markedly different here, so how are you now scumreadign him?
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MathBlade wrote:
In post 17276, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 17273, MathBlade wrote:You lost Shadowrun PV :P Booo gaslighting bad. XD
I did. Not sure what you mean here, except that you were scum that game.
You said you won that game. False statement.
Then what are you talking about?
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Post Post #17287 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:05 am

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In post 17279, PeregrineV wrote:It doesn't work like that.
it shouldn't, you are right but in reality this is a game of egos and popularity and who is friends with who. If anyone was actully looking at the reasons that I'm "scum" for and they'd see and utter lack and go "hrrrmmmm"
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Post Post #17288 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:06 am

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In post 15963, MathBlade wrote:
In post 15957, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pere if you're town you're god awful at this game and your shit tier reads in timeshift prove it. no one gives a fuck what your opinion is
One shit game does not a bad Town make.

One good game does not a good Town make.

PV has mostly good reads in games I am with him on. When scum against PV I have to work extra hard to contain him.
This post references Shadowrun. Which was a loss. You said you won. This is false.
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Post Post #17289 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:08 am

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@RC: PV pops on during Day Three to do bucket patrol. It was originally Nero but I called him out on it.

What do you make of that and what do you make of LUV being obstinate as fuck to following his own suggestion?
To not calling out Vecna's plan as shit?
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Post Post #17290 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:11 am

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In post 17288, MathBlade wrote:
In post 15963, MathBlade wrote:
In post 15957, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pere if you're town you're god awful at this game and your shit tier reads in
timeshift
prove it. no one gives a fuck what your opinion is
One shit game does not a bad Town make.

One good game does not a good Town make.

PV has mostly good reads in games I am with him on. When scum against PV I have to work extra hard to contain him.
This post references Shadowrun. Which was a loss. You said you won. This is false.
No apology accepted. I'm sure it was an honest mistake.

If you were talking about Shadowrun (since you are quoting you), I do not recall ever posting I won Shadowrun.
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Post Post #17291 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:14 am

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In post 17287, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 17279, PeregrineV wrote:It doesn't work like that.
it shouldn't, you are right but in reality this is a game of egos and popularity and who is friends with who. If anyone was actully looking at the reasons that I'm "scum" for and they'd see and utter lack and go "hrrrmmmm"
Yeah, that is probably part of it. But it's bad play, and not really going to legitimize it from my end.

Who are Radiant's other reads?
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Post Post #17292 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:15 am

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In post 17289, MathBlade wrote:PV pops on during Day Three to do bucket patrol. It was originally Nero but I called him out on it.
:facepalm:

TBF, if Math is scum their ability to manufacture bullshit is slightly impressive.
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Post Post #17293 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:16 am

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In post 17282, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7849, MathBlade wrote:Alisae -- Town
Nero Cain -- Pushing Town derp or scum
Yuri -- scum lean
MathBlade -- Confused town
Leonshade -- Town
Elbirn -- ???
Creature -- possibly scum ??
Brian Skies -- Town
Caesar Wills It - ???
Lil Uzi Vert -- Scum maybe??? Unsure
Vecna -- wtf??
ssbm -- Town by gut -- Will miss ssbm
dave -- maybe scum ??
Maxous -- Town by meta at start but is returning to Undertale voting patterns only if scum with Sondam.
Sondam -- Did town meta at start. Only way I see them as scum is with So dam which I find doubtful.
Senpai -- Buddying maybe? I wish I had a good read here.
nancy -- ditto

@PV repeating what I say doesn't mean you'll get a different answer from RC.

@RC lookie I had these reads on Day three.

Maxous Town maxous now confirmed town.
Sondam Town sondam confirmed town.
Senpai/nancy I waffled on.
SSBM May just be town due to my earlier gut townread.
Vecna/LUV scum
Creature changed to be a townread because of dave.
Dave changed to be a meta town read a short bit later which caused Creature to be.
Yuri was only a lean.

Seriously. Please...Talk with me about LUV's reaction to Vecna's plan and how PV and Nero have been consistently trying to shade me. All game LONG.
Shade is what you get if you are wrong.

Lynched is what you get if you are scum.

So far, I'm not for lynching you.

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Post Post #17294 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:17 am

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In post 17291, PeregrineV wrote:Who are Radiant's other reads?
He was pushing a me, Kid, Dave, CK scum team at first and now its a me, CK, Dave, Creature team I think.
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Post Post #17295 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:20 am

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In post 17292, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 17289, MathBlade wrote:PV pops on during Day Three to do bucket patrol. It was originally Nero but I called him out on it.
:facepalm:

TBF, if Math is scum their ability to manufacture bullshit is slightly impressive.

LOL As scum I have a near perfect win record (if you throw away mod confirmed scum games and games I replaced into boned slots). I have only messed up once.

And as scum I don't get accused of manufacturing bullshit because I organize everything to be perfect the way I want it. I get vengekilled as being too town in a 42 player multiball by scum I had already identified and was getting ready to tunnel. I don't make up bullshit. I just use the truth to make someone look like scum. (Granted Gistou was a loss but the reactions afterward of me being scum freakin priceless)
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Post Post #17296 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:22 am

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Now I'm tired of arguing with scum over my ability to be freaking good.

Instead we're lynching Nero.
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Post Post #17297 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:23 am

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Was Gistou the only time you've been in a scum game with me?
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Post Post #17298 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:24 am

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as town you are horrible sorry not sorry.
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Post Post #17299 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:25 am

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Like I still get a chuckle from that game...mafiacraft that I think it was, when I was trolling and you thought I was claiming investigation.
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